Iran and Pakistan- Prospects of future relations after the nuke deal

[Kaniska]

Honestly if it weren't for extremists in Pakistan we could benefit a lot economically along with India and Iran. I don't understand why we can't put our differences aside for a moment and think about the possible opportunities if India and Pakistan worked together, look India and China has border issues but when it comes to business both sides know its good for them, on our side we have too many brainwashed sectarian and kafir hating clowns who don't believe in uplifting poor conditions of people in this region, all they want is their Jihad against Shia and Hindu kafir.

PS: Expect more sectarian hatred being exported by Saudis, they are fuming and going mad, expect Israel and Saudia to work together against Iran with even more energy.

Do you think your people will understand it...Here is a fact...For us, when we deal with Iran or any other nation except Pakistan, trade and investment is a primary factor..You can see very well when we do bussiness with China...Even with Iran, we really do not care wheather Iran is siding with Pakistan or not....As long as Iran does not do anything bad to us, we are good with them irrespective of Iran and Pakistan are how good to each other...So i am surprised, why Pakistan is bringing India as a factor when Pakistan would like to have better relation with Iran...

Even India has a good trade relationship with SA and Gulf too...Why do not Pakistan and its stake holder just think in that line....All these brotherly stuff, is just hot air baloon man...It is just for personal consumption....Pakistan should do everything whatever suits itself ecomomically.. and same goes for other nations too..

Sky is the limit.......
This region will form the core of world both in terms of business as well as security. I can already see an axis developing between Iran, Pakistan, Russia, China and central Asian republics. India will be left out of this new "Axis of the century". Iran will get access to China. Pakistan will get oil and gas from Iran. I am predicting that Pakistan, Iran will emerge as the mighty regional powers within a decade or two with the help of China and Russia.
But we have to wait how much Iran embraces America. There is a risk that Iran could join India and America in the new Asian dispensation.
There is huge potential to be unlocked if Iran is made a permanent member of sco. Imagine sco along with Iran.
Simply mind boggling.
Unsurprisingly Pakistan is again emerging as the epicentre of this new world order.

Just curious...Are you from India?..Can you share the reason of using India flag if you do not have any concern...

 

[rockstar08]

@Serpentine you are giving your port to our enemies , and in while your forces violate the cease-fire ... and you guys seriously think that we should take Iran as ally ??

Iran is supporting the Shia Hardcore , Outfits in Pakistan who have clashes with Sunni's in Karachi ..
I am in Favor of Pakistan Iran better relation but we should always keep an eye on Iran and Iranians as they can not be trusted ..

 

[Kaniska]

Pakistan will still look towards KSA and there is a real danger that KSA vs Iran cold war will intensify.

Big business ventures with Iran will be a huge surprise and why would Iran even deal with Pakistan when it will have direct access to euroasia and US giants. Same goes with india, iran might snub india quite a bit as well.

However, Qatar, kuwait and UAE with oman might become very friendly with iran.

Somehow..I always fear the same but i never bring it up...The geopolitics will change for Iran after sanction got lifted...The sanction hit Iran and its priorities may be different than that of the sanction free Iran...And its is quite expected from them too...After all they look to their interests...

its a given that Indians will weigh where they can get the best offer and will ditch Iran,there is nothing special or bonding for Indians at best they might not vote in any move against Iran and would sit back if KSA and Israelis bomb Iran out of frustration one day.

What is so surprising about it....Iran sided with Pakistan in all the wars of India and Pakistan....But we do not take all these things into account when we see benifit for us in any relationship...When we do relationship with Iran, we do not expect that Iran will be with us, when they are severely impacted financially by having relation with India...Same goes for India too....By doing some bussiness with Iran, if India is getting sanctioned, i should be honest to say that India will not go for it....And same goes for Pakistan too...That is why you backed out of IP pipeline....In international diplomacy there is nothing called personal bond my dear...It is all about interests and benefits...

I have explained this tens of times, even in my very first post in this thread.

Let me put it in few sentences:

No other country was willing to invest in Chabahar at the time of sanctions, so we signed a deal with India. Now I don't understand your concerns about this. I explained very well that development of Southeastern Iran will directly affect Pakistan's bordering areas (in a positive way of course).

Now, if your concern is that India is going to use this port against Pakistan (which it won't), I'll assure we will not accept their presence even for a second. They are not stupid, they are after their economic interests (just like Pakistan, by giving Gwadar to China), and they will not risk their relations with Iran for something that will harm ALL 3 states: Iran, India and Pakistan.

Here's another scenario: Let's assume we were enemies with China, would you guys accept Iran's demands for Pakistan to stop letting Chinese in Gwadar only because Iran didn't like it? No you wouldn't, and you shouldn't have, because as long as there is no security threat, any kind of concern about these issues is unjustified.

I agree with you...If Pakistan demands that India should not use Iran for any military activity, then it makes sense and i agree with Pakistan concern too...But i find it strange that even economic investment is raised as a red flag by Pakistan too...

 

[Khurram2349]

Very nice post ! Pakistan and Iran share common culture and deep rooted relations. No matter what some petty and narrow minded people say but both countries cannot be separated just like blood brothers cant be separated and are joined together as part of grand Islamic Ummah ! I wish Pakistan and Iran both work on strengthening this Ummah so that all Muslims , from Morocco to Indonesia , can live prosperously as well as without fear anywhere in the world................we have lot to do but with sincerity we can do it !