Is this thread a joke? Self-reliance in what? Making 5th gen dummy Qhaher fighter jets?
All mockup planes are dummies. They should follow Iran's model because Iran can develop long range air defence systems when the likes of Turkey have to beg Germany to bring their patriot to protect them.
Turks can teach Pakistanis alot, for example how to send a man to the moon:
“Ottomans Were The First to Reach The Moon,” says Turkish President World News Daily Report
If self reliance means fibre glass 6th gen starships with Kenwood DVD players.. No thank you.
Troll, because your country can't even develop a short ranged surface to air missile whilst Iran is developing long range surface to air missiles. You can't even develop a radar or an unmanned aerial vehicle, it took you a year to rename a Chinese Ch-3 drone. That "fiber glass starship" was just a mockup of a project as stated many times.
Your country has little indigenous capability. You're just waiting to see what the Chinese are willing to give/sell you.
Sorry...Iran is no role model for Pakistan...There is no ''Muslim country role model for Pakistan''...First and last they have oil..endless reservoir of oil....sanctions or no sanctions they can survive...other than,they have done nothing exceptional apart from upgrading 1950's US and Russian equipment (Sorry Iranian brothers...its harsh but true...i still believe that you could have done much much better and can still do)
On the other hand we had our high doses of sanctions...sanctions coupled with our droughts, zero industrial and services growth...we survived ....i think we should look in our past...that is enough....we made it through much more worse time than any country...
You people can only keep blaming your backwardness on lack of oil. Here is my comment to another one of your comrades:
Blaming your backward state on lack of oil is a typical cheap and uneducated mindset that people like yourself have shown. There is only one problem with your logic, oil does not mean much when you can't sell it. Iran during the last half decade has been severely sanctioned and unable to sell any considerable amount of oil, and even when it did, it could not get the money due to SWIFT sanctions. But guess what? Even despite this, Iran is still vastly superior to Pakistan in terms of living standards, science, education,security etc etc. Oil does not guarantee prosperity. The Saudis sell 10 times more oil than Iran and yet, Iran makes them look like Somalia when it comes to science. They're highly backward.
You're obviously either ignorant on these issues or rather butt hurt. Always remember, Persians were the first power on this planet and have been rarely,
rarely not been a power. Oil is something relatively recent. Without it, Persians will still prosper. So you can blame your backwardness in science, education, economy, security etc to oil, but you're only fooling yourself.
By the way, Iran is lightyears ahead of Pakistan in indigenous military capability. Saying Iran is upgrading 50s technology shows how ignorant you are in this topic. The reality is, Iran has the ability to make long rang surface to air missiles when you can't even build a manpad without chinese technology. Let me know which of these below are upgraded 50's technology:
Sayyad-3 200km+ ranged plus SAM:
Anti ship ballistic missile:
Anti radiation ballistic missile:
These are something your country is decades away from developing.
Iran has developed it's own semi heavy submarines, MALE uav's, long range radars, satellite launchers etc. This is whilst it takes Pakistan an entire year to rename a chinese CH-3 drone and unveil it as "indigenous".
