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Islam in the garrison
Posted on August 16, 2011 by Umer Farooq

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On March 16, 2004, the Pakistan Army launched its first operation in South Waziristan tribal agency to weed out al-Qaeda and Taliban elements who had crossed into Pakistan after coming under American attacks in Afghanistan. General Pervez Musharraf, the then Chief of Army Staff (COAS) and the ruler of the country, held a series of meetings with his top commanders in the run-up to the operation and repeatedly asked them a single question. “Do you see any kind of reluctance among your soldiers to fire at the militants?” a participant of these meetings quotes him as asking. “He was visibly worried. He wanted to be dead sure that he did not face any backlash from within the army as he sent it into the tribal areas,” says a retired military officer who worked closely with Musharraf during his tenure in the government.

The commanding officers told their chief that their men were all set to strike the militants. What transpired during the operation, however, must have surprised many of them. As the militants offered tough resistance to the Pakistan Army, in some cases paramilitary troops and army soldiers surrendered without a fight apparently in response to the calls from religious leaders in the tribal areas that the operation was meant for killing their own “Muslim brethren”.

In the three years between the maiden military operation in South Waziristan and Musharraf’s retirement as the army chief in November 2007, apprehensions and fears persisted among the military high command of a religious backlash from within the army, says the retired official. Not without a reason. On July 3, 2007 security agencies laid a siege around Lal Masjid in Islamabad where militants led by brothers Abdul Aziz and Abdul Rashid Ghazi were holed up. Senior security officials planned a commando operation (Operation Silence) – involving the breaching of the wall that the mosque shared with its adjacent Jamia Hafsa madrasah – to flush out the militants. But before the commandos could reach the wall from where the militants were firing, a Junior Commissioned Officer (JCO) of the army passed on the information about the operation to the militants. Consequently, the operation failed and led to loss of several lives (official figures account for the death of 62 people). The Military Intelligence arrested and interrogated the JCO who was then working as the driver of a senior military official. His investigators soon found out that he had sympathies for the militants. There have been many other incidents in which the military personnel either cooperated or collaborated with the militants to launch lethal terrorist attacks. The most well known of these are the attempts to assassinate Musharraf which he has described in detail in his autobiography In the Line of Fire and which resulted in the arrests, court martial and conviction of many low-ranking military officials.

With the arrest in May this year of Brigadier Ali Khan, who was working at a senior position at the General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi, and four unnamed majors for having links with Hizbut Tahrir (HuT), a transnational extremist organisation banned in Pakistan, serious questions about the influence of religious ideologies in the army have risen again. The way the army’s public relations machine portrayed their case, laced with strong declarations of not tolerating any sectarian and radical ideologies among the soldiers and officers, is a clear manifestation that the worries about growing religious radicalisation in the armed forces are growing.

Publicly, security and intelligence officials tend to play down Khan’s arrest and HuT’s influence. They insist that a foreign ideology, a handful of disgruntled youth and poorly phrased political messages hardly create the mix that can pose a threat to a military machine overly obsessed with discipline within its ranks. They also argue that the HuT claims of having contacts with army officials should be taken with a pinch of salt. “When I was serving in the intelligence service I used to receive text messages from the HuT. Even now I continue to receive messages from them,” says a recently retired senior intelligence official. “Nobody takes them seriously,” he says. But Maajid Nawaz, a former HuT member, has a counterpoint to make. “The HuT doesn’t pose any threat in itself because it is a very small organisation. The danger emanates from the fact that extremist narrative is getting very popular in Pakistani society,” he says. (See Brothers in Religion)

An intelligence expert who spoke to the Herald on the condition of anonymity, also says there is more to Khan’s arrest than is known in the media. “After his arrest, Khan was handed over to the Special Investigation Branch which investigates crimes and other unlawful activities in the army. This indicates that the investigators want to uncover all his contacts within the army.” Even though implicitly, this shows that the army is unsure about the depth of the HuT’s influence in its ranks.

Independent analysts have more often than not pointed out that religious influence in the military is more deep-rooted than the high command is willing to acknowledge. Islamabad-based writer and commentator Dr Ayesha Siddiqa says Pakistan’s military revolves around the idea of religion just like the Pakistani state. It is false to claim that the military can be secular because the state itself is not secular, she argues. According to Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi, a Lahore-based historian of civil-military relations in Pakistan, Islamic discourse has been popular among the soldiers for decades. “This discourse creates a situation where everything becomes a function of religion … You explain every situation with reference to Islam,” he says. “You start thinking that there is a conspiracy against Islam and that there is a conspiracy against Pakistan hatched by Jews, Christians and Hindus …You start sympathising with the Taliban.”

The process of introducing this Islamist discourse in the army began in earnest during the military regime of General Ziaul Haq. He relaxed the strict rules governing the garrison’s interaction with the civilians and, thus, made the soldiers highly susceptible to extremist influence pervading the society. His greatest contribution in this regard was to encourage the activities of the Tableeghi Jamaat (TJ), both by allowing the organisation to send its missionaries to the military barracks and encouraging the soldiers and officers to attend its congregations outside garrisons, says Rizvi.

Brigadier (retd) Mehmud Shah, a defence analyst based in Peshawar, agrees. Radicalisation in the armed forces grew under Zia’s regime when the military ruler put into motion his controversial Islamisation programme, he says. (See Brothers in Religion). Zia became the first COAS to attend the annual congregation of TJ in Raiwind near Lahore. Encouraged by their chief, a large number of officers openly associated themselves with the activities of this purely religious organisation. During Zia’s tenure as the army chief, it was not unusual for visibly devout military officials to take leave from their duties and participate in Jamaat’s preaching missions. The other major Zia era development was the setting up of central mosques in garrisons. According to Shah, there was no central mosque in the entire Kharian Cantonment by 1975.

To designate Zia as the only one responsible for putting the military on the path of Islamisation would be too simplistic even though nothing can undermine his role in the process. There were other forces influencing the military and shaping the minds of its troops. Analysts point out, for instance, that several army officers posted to the Arab states around the Persian Gulf in 1970s and 1980s came back heavily influenced by an orthodox interpretation of Islam. They invariably rose to occupy prominent positions in the military hierarchy under Zia. Many more officers came under religious influence as they worked directly with Islamic-inspired mujahideen fighting in Afghanistan against Soviet-backed communists. Analysts say the Afghan jihad became a source of inspiration for young army officers who saw it as a victory of Islam against an infidel superpower. Along with the 1979 revolution in Iran which was led by religious leaders, these developments deepened religious influence among the Pakistan Army’s officer corps.

This coincided with another shift. “The urban middle classes replaced the so-called martial races of Punjab in the officer corps after the defeat in the 1971 war. By the mid-1980s urban middle classes were dominating the army,” says Saeed Shafqat, an eminent analyst of civil-military relations in Pakistan. The 1971 defeat had a heavy impact on the soldiers and officers and it continued to resonate within the military’s educational and training institutions for many years afterwards. The belief that we were defeated in the war because we were not good Muslims was widespread, says Shafqat. “Islam started to dominate the training and educational activities in the military after 1971,” he adds.

All this led to an upsurge in religious activities within the army. Brigadier (retd) Asad Munir, a former member of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) who was a major when Zia was in power, divides these activities into three broad categories. Individual officers used to organise zikr meetings, TJ was active in garrisons and the sympathisers of Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) were also engaged in promoting their views in the army, he says. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the writings of JI’s founder Maulana Maudoodi, such as his interpretation of the Quran, started to circulate in army-run educational institutions and many officers began to openly express their support for JI’s ideology. (See Brothers in Religion)

Shah narrates how sometimes the military’s resources were used to facilitate the soldiers and officers in their religious pursuits. “In 1997, I was posted as commandant of [the army’s] Junior Leaders Academy in Shinkiari. One day an officer came to me and said his staff wanted to offer their Friday prayers at a gathering arranged by TJ and they wanted to use the institute’s bus to travel to the gathering’s venue. I told them whoever wanted to go could go on his own but no official vehicle would be used for traveling.”

Zia’s immediate successor as army chief, General Mirza Aslam Beg, continued these policies, Rizvi points out. When General Asif Nawaz Janjua took over as the COAS in 1991, he tried to put an end to the official sponsorship of religious activities in garrisons. “He introduced changes in the functioning of the army. He spoke about reviving professionalism in the army,” says Rizvi. But those who followed Janjua did not make any serious attempt for the revival of professionalism.

Askari cites two reasons for the inability of the army chiefs to reduce, let alone reverse, religious influence in garrisons. “The military top brass spent most of the 1990s manipulating political developments from behind the scenes and hardly had time needed to understand the impact of rising Islamisation within the soldiers and officers,” he says. Secondly, successive army chiefs believed that purging the army of officers and soldiers with strong religious leanings would led to a strong reaction from within the army and the religious parties. “For instance, when the army arrested some senior and middle-ranking officers for trying to stage a coup in 1995, JI raised a lot of hue and cry in the media that Islamists were being targeted in the army,” says Rizvi. That aborted coup is often described as the single most significant Islamist-inspired attempt to eliminate the political and military leadership of the country and takeover the government. (See Timeline of Trouble)

Around the same time that the coup was being planned, the Taliban emerged in Afghanistan. With their brutal diktats, they created a peace of the graveyard in that country but it came as a relief for its war-weary citizens. They also inspired many officers of the Pakistan Army, the likes of well-publicised Colonel Imam, who would always give the Taliban credit for eradicating poppy cultivation, restoring peace and implementing sharia.

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the incumbent COAS, has, like Janjua before him, discouraged the activities of religious organisations within garrisons. “There can be only one cult in the army and that is the cult of the army itself,” says a senior military official, on the condition of anonymity. But so far Kayani has had little success in his endeavours. If anything, religiosity has sharply increased in garrisons in tandem with increased religiosity in the society in general — and this is throwing up some potentially destabilising by-products.

According to Siddiqa, religiosity in the armed forces has assumed three different forms as suspicions about the outside world in general and the west in particular grow stronger among Pakistanis: a general inclination towards religion; an active radicalism espoused, for instance, by officers such as former ISI chiefs Javed Nasir and Hameed Gul; and anti-American nationalism of the likes of Shuja Pasha, the current ISI chief. In other words, the manifestations of religiosity have become so variegated and so strongly linked to the national and international politics of the day that there can be no single or simple method to do something about them.

Rizvi points to another potentially dangerous development. The influence of religious organisations, once allowed to operate freely within garrisons, has now crossed the boundaries of “safe preaching”, he says. It is possible for the militants to find and meet military officials receptive to their ideas at the gatherings of TJ, he argues.

Some retired military officials strongly advocate that the only way that the army could reduce the influence of religion among its rank and file is to pursue a policy of gradually phasing out officers and soldiers known for their religious links and given to overtly displaying their piety. This is how the generation of the officers influenced by the Afghan jihad was phased out. The same should continue for the current crop of religion-inspired officers, Shah argues.

In Rizvi’s opinion, this policy, on its own, is not the solution.
He says there exists a worrying tendency among retired army officers to influence the thinking of young officers. “I have met some retired army officers who have become Taliban supporters. When they interact with serving officials, they transfer the germs of extremism and anti-Americanism as well as sympathy for Taliban.” But Rizvi’s own solution also sounds rather simplistic: “Rules governing the interaction between the civilians and the army men should be strictly implemented and intelligence reports should reflect the correct situation in the units. This will rectify the situation.”


— Additional reporting by Mohammad Ali Khan and Idrees Bakhtiar
 
Professional armies around the world work on the principle of discipline and hierarchy. The same applies to the Pakistan Army. As long as there are officers with a religious bent of mind,they will continue to influence officers under them. It will be a tough call to make and not with out backlash.
 
poorly written article - cut and paste from sources we know are anti-army! - every source is 'anonomous' even the person who has written it 'army person'.

in some cases paramilitary troops and army soldiers surrendered - yes this happened and we know why. FC soldiers are made up of the 'same tribes' as some of the militants. surrendered not because of religion but out of 'tribalism'. no army soldiers surrendered.

religion is creeping into the armed forces is quite clear because the army's 'recruitment base' is part of the class in our society which is becoming overtly religious. this remains a issue.


anti-American nationalism of the likes of Shuja Pasha, the current ISI chief - leon panatta called pasha a 'patriot'. does that mean he is anti-american or overtly religious. i dont think so.

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the incumbent COAS, has, like Janjua before him, discouraged the activities of religious organisations within garrisons. “There can be only one cult in the army and that is the cult of the army itself,” - if he has failed as suggested, then all the successes in the FATA would not have taken place. he is getting 6 years to change or stem such activities and i believe he will be successful because his successor will ensure the same. asif nawaz unfortunately got less than 2 years. the article dosnt mention the good work of gen. waheed kakar and gen. karamat who carried on with the same policy.

if the radicalisation and religion were out of control as suggested here, then the army would have broken up a long time ago. zia has been gone ~25 years, the afghan jihad more like 30 years. these soldiers and officers of zia and hamid gul are all retiring or retired. the army knows who they are.

in the end, in pakistan the tail always 'wags' the dog and this is another attempt to 'overplay' the issue. problems exist in the army like every other organization in the world. the army has its internal checks and balances which take corrective measures and ensures that the army organisation and discipline remains robust and intact.



add on;

This coincided with another shift. “The urban middle classes replaced the so-called martial races of Punjab in the officer corps after the defeat in the 1971 war. By the mid-1980s urban middle classes were dominating the army,”

the army of 47-73 was very selective in who became a officer in the army. the base was very narrow. sons of serving officers, fuedal or well to do families. this policy was considered to be anti-national and what was required was a 'national army' where all classes were represented. it had noting to do with religion. it had to do with numbers. the army just needed more officers. the eligibility criteria was lowered.
 
Sir your critique is not up to your usual mark - the piece is written Umer Farooq - his name is clear
August 16, 2011 by Umer Farooq
The piece is printed in The Herald

And the author quotes known academics, academics with long histories with the armed services, I am sure you are aware that Dr. Siddiqa, though critical of what she sees as dangerous behaviors and endeavors, was along time navy analyst.

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the incumbent COAS, has, like Janjua before him, discouraged the activities of religious organisations within garrisons. “There can be only one cult in the army and that is the cult of the army itself,” - if he has failed as suggested, then all the successes in the FATA would not have taken place.

Sir, I beg you to be fair - after all, just how many times is gen. Kiyani among others, to claim that the "back of the militancy has been broken" and if indeed, we were experiencing such "success" as you put it, why is that we have reclaim our "success" as many times as we have had to??

he is getting 6 years to change or stem such activities
Clearly the "Political" considerations of his office and the fortunes of the PPP government are compulsions the reasonable will grant.

if the radicalisation and religion were out of control as suggested here, then the army would have broken up a long time ago. zia has been gone ~25 years, the afghan jihad more like 30 years. these soldiers and officers of zia and hamid gul are all retiring or retired. the army knows who they are

This critique is not as meaningful as it may have been had the Pakistan army been seeing action against Islamists for the last 25 to 30 years - in fact, it is only since the Islamist terrorists turned on their former masters, that the fractures have come to public light.

this is another attempt to 'overplay' the issue. problems exist in the army like every other organization in the world. the army has its internal checks and balances which take corrective measures and ensures that the army organisation and discipline remains robust and intact.

I respect your loyalty, please don't imagine that those of us who would rather pay attention to this problem now, instead of later when our choices will be severely limited, are hostile to the institution - Operation and after operation has been compromised from the INSIDE, the GHQ itself has been attacked, a major naval base of a nuclear power, attacked - how successful were those internal mechanism you refer to??
 
It reminds me of an article written by a senior ex ISI, perhaps a chief, under Musharraf.

He had written, that Musharraf wanted to get rid of all the extremists and radicals in the ISI, and sent him to fix that.

When he visited the headquarters, he saw everyone wearing the Salwar/Kameez(?) uniform in the most casual form possible. While he felt immediate need to change that to shirts and trousers or tunics, he also noticed a very strange phenomenon - Anyone could take a permission to go away and do the prayers at his favorite Mosque (anywhere in the country), at any time of the day! Not just that, even the senior officers were very lax and happily gave away such permissions in bulk.

The officers gone to do the prayers, would take their own time, and be back whenever they wished, or no be back at all for the day.

Such was the state of professionalism in the ISI, all in the name of religion.
 
Sir your critique is not up to your usual mark - the piece is written Umer Farooq - his name is clear my bad

Sir, I beg you to be fair - after all, just how many times is gen. Kiyani among others, to claim that the "back of the militancy has been broken" and if indeed, we were experiencing such "success" as you put it, why is that we have reclaim our "success" as many times as we have had to??

sir i hope u are aware the reasons behind the army 'retaking' areas cleared because after 'clear' and 'hold' comes 'rehab' and 'reconstruct' but unfortunately neither the KP govt or the fed govt has been able to provide the latter until now. whatever rehab and reconstruct done in swat has been accomplished by the army. its the govt (their) 'job'. dont leave it to the army alone.

This critique is not as meaningful as it may have been had the Pakistan army been seeing action against Islamists for the last 25 to 30 years - in fact, it is only since the Islamist terrorists turned on their former masters, that the fractures have come to public light. unfortunately 25 years ago such action was not possible because of zia. but yes i have never been a supporter of the army's jihadi policy. why did the islamists turn on the former masters? because of the army's reversal of its policy wittingly or unwittingly.

the GHQ itself has been attacked yes all these are 'reactions' to the policy the army has adopted of discoraging and dismantling these cells. such reactions were going to take place. all cannot be pre-empted. these attacks have battered the image of the armed forces. the silver lining in all this is that the army is taking corrective measures. its never too late. this will take time and the army's knows it has to continue this policy for its survival.
 
Some people think that Pakistan is a "nothing" state -- that's not really the case at all, the Pakistani state is a giant -- when it wants to be.

Just add "India" or "Afghanistan" to the mix - and you have aircraft flying day and night, thousands armed and on the move, All media outlets constantly putting out the propaganda - us and them, how we are good and they are bad - entire civil society mobilized --now compare this propaganda and mobilization with what you see against the actual enemy - the freaking Indian was inside his own border and so much clamor and action -- and here we have an enemy constantly attacking us in our streets and Masajid -- no propaganda, no mobilization - no urgency at all ---- Curious, just, curious.

All in all, we are in denial, to our very real existential, peril - the islamist has flown the coop and means to destroy the state --- Or the army can deliver the state??
 
hope u are aware the reasons behind the army 'retaking' areas cleared because after 'clear' and 'hold' comes 'rehab' and 'reconstruct' but unfortunately neither the KP govt or the fed govt has been able to provide the latter until now. whatever rehab and reconstruct done in swat has been accomplished by the army. its the govt (their) 'job'. dont leave it to the army alone
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Sir, this is a very dangerous, self defeating line to take -- You are in effect arguing that the Islamist terrorist wants "development" that he wants "reconstruction" -- the reason this is dangerous and self defeating, is that it is a manifestly, non-factual.

The reason the army has to keep retaking it's "successes" is that these "successes" lack the substance of what would be regarded as military success, that is to say, the enemy dead, defeated -- The substance of the army's action is they mobilize, the islamist rear guard offers limited engagement, while the main body disperses - The army declares the it has broken the back of the Islamist insurgency and retreats -- See, before that reconstruction part, the army actually has to hold, that means it has to stay for the long haul - the Pakistan army, thus far, has been content with it's many "successes" --- and I understand the "strategic" calculation - I would offer we take a good look at whether this calculation is something we can actually live it, after all, what's the point of this "proxy", if pieces of Pakistan are lost to it??

You will have no doubt read with revulsion that Pakistani soldiers and paramilitary surrendered without firing a shot -- you know and I know, that they would not do that unless ORDERED to do so, by their officers ---- OFFICERS.

The other counter or explanation you offer is that the Islamist insurgency is a actually a blow back, from Pakistan changing it's policy -- See, here you are actually conceding that the points Brig. Siddiqui raises and Mr. farooq raises, that is to say the extreme influence of certain ideas, inspired by a unique understanding of concepts which claim to be religion, if you will - that have shaped the army and her officers and policy, that are not conducive to the development and sustaining of a professional fighting force.

I would refer you to a editorial from the Express tribune "Militant ideology" - please do go through it, I think you will find that the idea of blow back needs to be reevaluated - it''s their way or death, Pakistan army or no Pakistan army.
 
Some people think that Pakistan is a "nothing" state -- that's not really the case at all, the Pakistani state is a giant -- when it wants to be.

Just add "India" or "Afghanistan" to the mix - and you have aircraft flying day and night, thousands armed and on the move, All media outlets constantly putting out the propaganda - us and them, how we are good and they are bad - entire civil society mobilized --now compare this propaganda and mobilization with what you see against the actual enemy - the freaking Indian was inside his own border and so much clamor and action -- and here we have an enemy constantly attacking us in our streets and Masajid -- no propaganda, no mobilization - no urgency at all ---- Curious, just, curious.

All in all, we are in denial, to our very real existential, peril - the islamist has flown the coop and means to destroy the state --- Or the army can deliver the state??

so isnt that something which our democratic government should be doing? mobilising public opinion - co-ordinating with the media to highlight the threat to our society. we have a media with these 'crazy mullahs' spouting hatred on the TV channels and the govt allows this in the name of 'freedom of the press/media'. heck we dont have a national anti-terrorism policy. our govt is busy ensuring that it can survive its 5 year term and coddle partnerships for the next 5 years in the name of democracy. do we want to leave it to the army to deliver? alone?
 
“For instance, when the army arrested some senior and middle-ranking officers for trying to stage a coup in 1995, JI raised a lot of hue and cry in the media that Islamists were being targeted in the army,” says Rizvi. That aborted coup is often described as the single most significant Islamist-inspired attempt to eliminate the political and military leadership of the country and takeover the government.
I had thought that Pakistan's nukes were safe. But after reading this part, I shudder to think what would happen if this coup to eliminate the political and military leadership of the country and takeover the government actually does takes place.

The finger on the nuke button will not be that of a sane person, but of a radicalized extremist without the slightest hesitation to press it if his demands are not met!
 
At one end people write article like these and then on the other we have videos promoting officers in congregation in mountains... what are they trying to depict... unity or faith. We have to understand here something first, that religion is blend into the very fabric of our society.
 
so isnt that something which our democratic government should be doing?

Ideally, yes - I had thought that when we discussed Mr. Gen Kiyani Extension, we agreed that
the "Political" considerations of his office and the fortunes of the PPP government are compulsions the reasonable will grant.

The PPP government is a absolute mess - the only thing it seems to understand is self interest of it's party office bearers - but sir, there is an ISPR, for reasons other than churning out soap operas?

There is something here that just needs saying - the reason neither the civilian government nor the Armed forces ISPR have or will fashion, craft messages to create in the mind of the public a clear narrative about who we are, who the terrorists are, what they believe and what we believe -- is ---- that radicalism in society is not just widespread, but is a mainstream political force and while the civilian government courts that support for it's petty political battles aver Dollars or Rupees and turf, the army is aware that the militant message has appeal within it's own ranks.

What we have essentially, is the state and the insurgent arguing about what is Islam -- Now you and also Araz and Asim, may think that the this 80% in the middle want reconciliation and perhaps a referendum or debates on the finer points of radical religion is what these 80% in the middle want -- but you could not be more wrong - The people know who and what the enemy is, they know who is killing them and why -- they also know who is not protecting them and they know why -- so they are hedging their bets, so to speak, and will continue to do so - until they hear an unequivocal message and see clearly that the army is serious about protecting them and killing the insurgent.
 
The reason the army has to keep retaking it's "successes" is that these "successes" lack the substance of what would be regarded as military success, that is to say, the enemy dead, defeated -- The substance of the army's action is they mobilize, the islamist rear guard offers limited engagement, while the main body disperses - The army declares the it has broken the back of the Islamist insurgency and retreats

the KIA ratio of militants v. army is 9:1 - they are being killed. you want them dead in 1-day. not possible. it will take time. the army started taking serious action from june 2008. it has been a little over 3 years. it may take another 3 i dont know. but dead they are. yes they run away into the hills. - you have to establish law and order once the area is cleared. this is not taking place and that is the reason army is going to stay in the FATA long-term. there is no option. the army knows the shortcoming of the civil administration. the political parties act has been enacted with much fan-fare just like the Aghaz-Haqooq-Baluchistan, the 18th amendment etc. we all know this is all on paper. no substance.

that have shaped the army and her officers and policy, that are not conducive to the development and sustaining of a professional fighting force. - yes in the past muse. things are changing is all i can say to you.

---------- Post added at 01:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:21 PM ----------

i meet many young officers - they dont look and talk the language of the radical islamist.
 
things are changing is all i can say to you.

Till we see and can evaluate the substance of these changes, lets do what our conscience demands as a duty - and keep highlighting areas that should be looked at with a critical and with a view to correction.
 
I had thought that Pakistan's nukes were safe. But after reading this part, I shudder to think what would happen if this coup to eliminate the political and military leadership of the country and takeover the government actually does takes place.

The finger on the nuke button will not be that of a sane person, but of a radicalized extremist without the slightest hesitation to press it if his demands are not met!

go away!!! if u have something better to say do it otherwise!!!
 

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