Interesting Findings of the Holy Quran!

[PeaceForAll]

Point 1)

The second youtube video - where a guy asks Zakir Naik =
"At one place the Quran says Heavens and earth took 6 days to be created, where as in some other place, the Quran says the earth and heavens took 8 days. Isnt this contradictory?"

Zakir Naik's answer was "It was predicted that christians and non-muslims will take this flaw out of Quran and show that Quran is wrong" or something like that. He goes on to show that there was a mistake while translation of the Quran from Arabic to English!

Why does God have to put a mistake in Quran itself? Somehow this seems a bit of a confusion. I mean, just with that one sentence that "God made some flaws in the Quran and that christians and jews will point to those flaws" meaning 1) God admits he made deliberate mistakes in the Quran

or

2) By making that statement, you have effective point to show that anyone who points a flaw in the Quran - Even if there IS a flaw - is a chritian/jew or whatever.

so that ways there is no way for people to critically view the Quran?



Point 2)

The number of times Sea is mentioned = 32
Number of times land is mentioned = 11

was it mentioned that we need to divide these two to get the ratio of land Vs Sea? (please quote a link if it is mentioned). How come people did not see this all these centuries?

And why stop at only number of times of the word sea? how many times was the word "stars" mentioned? Billions? trillion? I can say for sure that the space in that book is not sufficient to mention even a fraction of number of stars.

It is human tendency to get order out of chaos. Out of seemingly random things, we relate to something we know. All constellations that astrology comes up with are creations of the mind.

The Quran was given as a "message on how to lead life" and you can definitely lead a normal, peaceful life without knowing lots of scientific stuff (like tribals, or people without degrees or whatever)

The pressure to find scientific proofs in the Quran is forcing some people to make up things out of thin air which is counter productive in propogating goodness of Quran. As a book teaching good ways to live, it is very good. Why the pressure to show that it has every scientific theory?

final point - if the global warming continues the same way, the ratio of water Vs land will change. But what is written in the book will not change.. right?


I prefer keeping religion and science separate - this is my view - that although all religions proclaim their's is the best and there is science also included in all of these books, I am yet to see people who have followed only religious books (AND NOTHING ELSE) and made good scietific progress. And that includes christians , Jews , Hindus, Buddhists etc. But yes, they are better human beings - they treat people with respect, live peacefully etc. and that is what all the books of religions are for!

 

[Coolyo]

Thanks Coolyo for the wonderful post. Alhamdulillah I'm very glad I was born in a Muslim Pakistani family.

NP, too bad many people can't stomach the truth, so they post irrelevant nonsense! I dont even want to waste my time... If u like it, you like it, if u don't well, its ur loss

 

[fhassan]

Point 1)

The second youtube video - where a guy asks Zakir Naik =
"At one place the Quran says Heavens and earth took 6 days to be created, where as in some other place, the Quran says the earth and heavens took 8 days. Isnt this contradictory?"

Zakir Naik's answer was "It was predicted that christians and non-muslims will take this flaw out of Quran and show that Quran is wrong" or something like that. He goes on to show that there was a mistake while translation of the Quran from Arabic to English!

Why does God have to put a mistake in Quran itself?

Greetings

you seem to be confused.

There is no mistake in the Qur'an itself. However, a translator, a human being who translated the Qur'an which is in Arabic, into English made the mistake.

Muslims do not consider any translation of the Qur'an as the Qur'an itself because translators make mistakes and you cannot translate the word of God to begin with. Arabic is a very complex language which is why many translation of the Quran are difficult to read and do not flow well. By translation into other languages you loose both the poetic majesty and the meaning contained within.

This is why fatwas are never derived from translation of the Qur'an and all scholars ONLY use the Arabic Qur’an as was revealed 1400 years ago.

There is another place in the Qur'an that says people will use "vain argument" against the Qur'an. Interestingly, the verses directly below where this is said are used by almost every anti-Islamic site where they propose that there is a contradiction in the Quran.

18:86

Transliteration:
Hatta itha balagha maghriba alshshamsi wajadaha taghrubu fee AAaynin hamiatin wawajada AAindaha qawman qulna ya tha alqarnayni imma an tuAAaththiba waimma an tattakhitha feehim husnan

Kanz-ul-Eeman
Till when he reached the place of sun setting, he found it setting in a spring of black mud, and he found a people there. We said, 'O Zulqarnain, either you punish them or do good to them'.

With regards to the verse above anti-Islamic sites claim that according to the Qur’an the sun sets into the sea / muddy water.

I answered this allegation several years ago, last post on page 1:

Islamic Stupidity, How far will it go?

It is astonishing that 1400 years ago, the Qur’an predicted:

18:56.

We only send the apostles to give Glad Tidings and to give warnings: But the unbelievers dispute with vain argument, in order therewith to weaken the truth, and they treat My Signs as a jest, as also the fact that they are warned!

And directly below this verse are the verses you find on every anti-Islamic site as “proof” of Qur’anic contradictions.

 

[ajpirzada]

u sure u meant 14000yrs?

thanks for pointin it out.
its 1400 yrs

 

[ajpirzada]

With regards to the verse above anti-Islamic sites claim that according to the Qur’an the sun sets into the sea / muddy water.

I answered this allegation several years ago, last post on page 1:

Thanks for the link. ur post was usefull.
especially coz you quoted Bible as well.

 

[PeaceForAll]

Greetings

you seem to be confused.

There is no mistake in the Qur'an itself. However, a translator, a human being who translated the Qur'an which is in Arabic, into English made the mistake.

Muslims do not consider any translation of the Qur'an as the Qur'an itself because translators make mistakes and you cannot translate the word of God to begin with. Arabic is a very complex language which is why many translation of the Quran are difficult to read and do not flow well. By translation into other languages you loose both the poetic majesty and the meaning contained within.

This is why fatwas are never derived from translation of the Qur'an and all scholars ONLY use the Arabic Qur’an as was revealed 1400 years ago.

There is another place in the Qur'an that says people will use "vain argument" against the Qur'an. Interestingly, the verses directly below where this is said are used by almost every anti-Islamic site where they propose that there is a contradiction in the Quran.

18:86

Transliteration:
Hatta itha balagha maghriba alshshamsi wajadaha taghrubu fee AAaynin hamiatin wawajada AAindaha qawman qulna ya tha alqarnayni imma an tuAAaththiba waimma an tattakhitha feehim husnan

Kanz-ul-Eeman
Till when he reached the place of sun setting, he found it setting in a spring of black mud, and he found a people there. We said, 'O Zulqarnain, either you punish them or do good to them'.

With regards to the verse above anti-Islamic sites claim that according to the Qur’an the sun sets into the sea / muddy water.

I answered this allegation several years ago, last post on page 1:

Islamic Stupidity, How far will it go?

It is astonishing that 1400 years ago, the Qur’an predicted:

18:56.

We only send the apostles to give Glad Tidings and to give warnings: But the unbelievers dispute with vain argument, in order therewith to weaken the truth, and they treat My Signs as a jest, as also the fact that they are warned!

And directly below this verse are the verses you find on every anti-Islamic site as “proof” of Qur’anic contradictions.

could u pls answer the second part of my post as well?, here it goes again...




Point 2)

The number of times Sea is mentioned = 32
Number of times land is mentioned = 11

was it mentioned that we need to divide these two to get the ratio of land Vs Sea? (please quote a link if it is mentioned). How come people did not see this all these centuries?

And why stop at only number of times of the word sea? how many times was the word "stars" mentioned? Billions? trillion? I can say for sure that the space in that book is not sufficient to mention even a fraction of number of stars.

It is human tendency to get order out of chaos. Out of seemingly random things, we relate to something we know. All constellations that astrology comes up with are creations of the mind.

The Quran was given as a "message on how to lead life" and you can definitely lead a normal, peaceful life without knowing lots of scientific stuff (like tribals, or people without degrees or whatever)

The pressure to find scientific proofs in the Quran is forcing some people to make up things out of thin air which is counter productive in propogating goodness of Quran. As a book teaching good ways to live, it is very good. Why the pressure to show that it has every scientific theory?

final point - if the global warming continues the same way, the ratio of water Vs land will change. But what is written in the book will not change.. right?


I prefer keeping religion and science separate - this is my view - that although all religions proclaim their's is the best and there is science also included in all of these books, I am yet to see people who have followed only religious books (AND NOTHING ELSE) and made good scietific progress. And that includes christians , Jews , Hindus, Buddhists etc. But yes, they are better human beings - they treat people with respect, live peacefully etc. and that is what all the books of religions are for!

 

[zavis2003]

Holy Qur'an



That mention one thing is equal to another,



i.e . men are equal to women.

Although this makes sense grammatically,


the astonishing fact is that the number of

times the word man appears in



the Holy Qur'an



is 24 and number of times the word



woman appears is also 24,



therefore not only is this phrase correct in

the grammatical sense but also true mathematically,



i.e . 24 = 24.

Upon further analysis of various verses,



he discovered that this is consistent throughout the whole



Holy Qur'an



where it says one thing is like another.



See below for astonishing result of



the words mentioned number of times in Arabic



Holy Qur'an

Dunia (one name for life) 115.



Aakhirat (one name for the life after this world) 115



Malaika (Angels) 88 . Shayteen (Satan) 88



Life 145 ...... Death 145



Benefit 50 . Corrupt 50



People 50 .. Messengers 50



Eblees (king of devils) 11 . Seek refuge from Eblees 11

Museebah (calamity) 75 . Thanks ! 75

Spending (Sadaqah) 73 . Satisfaction 73

People who are mislead 17 .D Dead people 17

Muslimeen 41 .J Jihad 41

Gold 8 .E Easy life 8

Magic 60 .F Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) ! 60

Zakat (Taxes Muslims pay to the poor) 32 ....

Barakah (Increasing or blessings of wealth) 32

Mind 49 .N Noor 49

Tongue 25 .S Sermon 25

Desite 8 .F Fear 8

Speaking publicly 18 .P Publicising 18

Hardship 114 .... Patience 114

Muhammed 4 .S Sharee'ah ( Muhammed's teachings) 4

Man 24 . Woman 24

And amazingly enough have a look how many times



the following words appear:

Salat 5 , Month 12 , Day 365 ,



Sea 32 , Land 13

Sea + land = 32 + 13= 45

Sea = 32/45*100q.=71.11111111%

Land = 13/45*100 = 28.88888889%

Sea + land 100.00%

Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers



71.111% of the

earth , while the land covers 28.889% .

Is this a coincidence? Question is that

Who taught Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) all this?

Reply automatically comes in mind that



ALMIGHTY ALLAH



taught him.

This as the



Holy Qur'an



also tells us this.

please pass this on to all your friends

Aayah 87 of Suraa (Chapter) Al-Anbia !



para 17 :

LA ILAHA ILA ANTA

SUBHANAKA INI KUNTU MINA ZALIMEEN.

During the next 60 seconds,

stop whatever you are doing,



and take this opportunity.



(Literally, it is only 1 minute).



All you have to do is

The following:

PLEASE SEND THIS TO ALL PEOPLE THE YOU KNOW.

In ISLAM one thing is clear and all you need is to clear it in your mind that

A PERSON WHO FORWARD ANY QUOTE RELATED TO PROPHET (s.a.w) SAYINGS THOUGH IT IS NOT RELATED TO OUR HOLY PROPHET (s.a.w) THAT PERSON WOULD GO INTO HELL (JAHANUM)


SO BE CAREFULL ALL THE TIME DONT FORWARD AND HADAYA OR AYAT WHICH YOU ARE DOUBT ABOUT ITS AUTHENTICATION

To live as being a MUSLIM demands alot of reponsibilites

 

[Super Falcon]

Holy QURAN is with out any shadow of doubt is best book in the world to human's and in today what ever we see technology is came from Holy QURAN.

In QURAN written very clearly by GREAT GOD that in future metal will fly and matal will run in sea at that time there people use to travel on camels.

there are many examples of GREAT QURAN which if we sit to explain even our lifes will be finished but not the GREATNESS of QURAN and GOD will Never finish

---------- Post added at 05:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:30 PM ----------

agreed with zavis

 

[zombie]

However, a translator,

Who is/was this translator? And was his translation so great that it wasn't changed and to till this day remains the "official" english version of the quran?

Can you please post the two arabic sentances here so that we all may see with the verse numbers..Thank you

 

[Awesome]

Here is the bible version Isaiah 42:5

Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:



This is the problem, you can take those words and extrapolate into numerous perceptions of reality.

Thanks.

To be fair there's a difference between stretched out and expanding... The universe is still expanding. Although I won't pay much attention to the numerology mumbo jumbo.

The Quran doesn't at any point claim to be a scientific book, however it does say it is relevant for mankind for eternity. So it means that it doesn't try to prove any scientific point, but any such point mentioned would always be scientifically correct.

 

[Al-zakir]

Holy Qur'an



That mention one thing is equal to another,



i.e . men are equal to women.

Although this makes sense grammatically,



the astonishing fact is that the number of

times the word man appears in



the Holy Qur'an



is 24 and number of times the word



woman appears is also 24,



therefore not only is this phrase correct in

the grammatical sense but also true mathematically,



i.e . 24 = 24.

Upon further analysis of various verses,



he discovered that this is consistent throughout the whole



Holy Qur'an



where it says one thing is like another.



See below for astonishing result of



the words mentioned number of times in Arabic



Holy Qur'an

Dunia (one name for life) 115.



Aakhirat (one name for the life after this world) 115



Malaika (Angels) 88 . Shayteen (Satan) 88



Life 145 ...... Death 145



Benefit 50 . Corrupt 50



People 50 .. Messengers 50



Eblees (king of devils) 11 . Seek refuge from Eblees 11

Museebah (calamity) 75 . Thanks ! 75

Spending (Sadaqah) 73 . Satisfaction 73

People who are mislead 17 .D Dead people 17

Muslimeen 41 .J Jihad 41

Gold 8 .E Easy life 8

Magic 60 .F Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) ! 60

Zakat (Taxes Muslims pay to the poor) 32 ....

Barakah (Increasing or blessings of wealth) 32

Mind 49 .N Noor 49

Tongue 25 .S Sermon 25

Desite 8 .F Fear 8

Speaking publicly 18 .P Publicising 18

Hardship 114 .... Patience 114

Muhammed 4 .S Sharee'ah ( Muhammed's teachings) 4

Man 24 . Woman 24

And amazingly enough have a look how many times



the following words appear:

Salat 5 , Month 12 , Day 365 ,



Sea 32 , Land 13

Sea + land = 32 + 13= 45

Sea = 32/45*100q.=71.11111111%

Land = 13/45*100 = 28.88888889%

Sea + land 100.00%

Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers



71.111% of the

earth , while the land covers 28.889% .

Is this a coincidence? Question is that

Who taught Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) all this?

Reply automatically comes in mind that



ALMIGHTY ALLAH



taught him.

This as the



Holy Qur'an



also tells us this.

please pass this on to all your friends

Aayah 87 of Suraa (Chapter) Al-Anbia !



para 17 :

LA ILAHA ILA ANTA

SUBHANAKA INI KUNTU MINA ZALIMEEN.

During the next 60 seconds,

stop whatever you are doing,



and take this opportunity.



(Literally, it is only 1 minute).



All you have to do is

The following:

PLEASE SEND THIS TO ALL PEOPLE THE YOU KNOW.

Brother what is the source of these finding. How sure are you about these? I will appreciate if authenticity could be provided none the less Jazakallah khairan.