Insurgent & Secessionist movements in India

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3 CRPF jawans killed, one injured:

SRINAGAR : Three CRPF jawans were killed and another injured in a fratricide incident, the first of this year in the force in the Kashmir Valley, at a camp in south Kashmir’s Kulgam district, police said today.

Firing shots were heard inside the barrack of 18th Battalion CRPF at Kulgam town, 75 km from here, at around 10.45 PM last night, a senior police officer said.

Head Constables Suman Pillay and P Sibbu died on the spot while S D Murthy and Javed Hussain (same rank) were critically injured in the firing incident.

Hussain, who had sustained injuries from bullets and a sharp-edged weapon, later succumbed while being shifted to a hospital here, the officer said.

All the four jawans were posted as drivers in the force.

Superintendent of Police Kulgam Maqsood-uz-Zaman said the other jawans, who were present inside the barrack at the time of incident, have been detained for questioning.

“We have started investigations. It is premature to comment on it yet,” he added.

This is the first incident of fratricide in CRPF this year in the Kashmir Valley. (PTI)

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NC worker shot dead by militants in Batamaloo:

SRINAGAR, Dec 24: Militants today shot dead a National Conference (NC) worker in Srinagar's Batamaloo area early in the morning.

Police identified the NC worker as 40-year-old Bashir Ahmad Dar. While giving details about the incident, police said that he was shot at Rekka Chowk, Batamaloo outside his shop at around 9.20 a m

Dar's shop is in the ground floor of the building while the other floors of the building housed the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF). Eyewitnesses said that as soon as Dar reached near his shop, he was fired at by a pistol wielding militant from point blank range.

Militants fled from the scene after carrying out the attack, leaving Dar in a pool of blood. The CRPF posted nearby immediately rushed towards him and he was removed to SMHS hospital where doctors declared him brought dead.

The militants strike created panic in the area and police and security officials immediately rushed to the spot. The searches were conducted for the suspected militants who shot dead the NC worker.

The incident took place hardly 400 meters from Srinagar's Civil Secretariat and 100 meters from Srinagar's Police Control Room (PRC).

Dar's body was handed over to his relatives by the police and hundreds attended his last rites at Dobhi Mohalla in Batamaloo in the afternoon.

This is the second killing in the Dar family. Earlier in the early 1990s, Dar's father Jamal Dar of Dobhi Mohalla who was block president of the NC was shot dead by militants. But despite Jamal's killing, his son continued to be with the active worker of the NC.

Islamic Movement of Kashmir (ISM) has claimed responsibility for the attack. They have threatened to continue to carry out such attacks against mainstream political parties. This is for the third time that this unknown militant outfit has claimed responsibility for any strike in Kashmir.

The security agencies suspected that the IMK might be a shadow outfit of either Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) or Hizbul Mojahideen. But so far the investigations carried out by them have not established any clue about this outfit and its links to LeT or HM.

This organization earlier claimed attack on the Minister for Rural Development and Parliamentary Affairs, Ali Mohammad Sagar two weeks ago and on a NC block president in Safa Kadal, one month ago.

A spokesman of the ruling NC said that party president Dr Farooq Abdullah and general secretary Sheikh Nazir Ahmad have condemned the killing of the NC worker. "While describing it as an inhuman the NC leaders have said that such killings have not helped us in the past and blood shed in Kashmir should come to an end", said the spokesman.

The opposition People's Democratic Party (PDP) has condemned the killing of NC worker and has said the death was a brutal murder. In a statement issued here, the party has said that the undemocratic forces behind the killing of the NC worker must be brought to light and punished according to the law of the land.

It many be mentioned here that this is the third attack on any NC leader in Srinagar in past one month and fourth in Kashmir. Two weeks ago (December 11) militants carried out an assassination bid on the Minister for Rural Development and Parliamentary Affairs, Ali Mohammad Sagar. He escaped unhurt but his one of the security guards was killed and three others were injured in downtown outside his ancestral home.

On December 2, militants shot at and critically injured an NC Block president, Ghulam Ahmad, in the downtown's Safa Kadal area. And last month (November 25), militants critically injured NC block president of Panzoo village in South Kashmir's Tral area. Police, however, last week arrested the militants responsible for carrying out an attack on NC Block president Panzoo village.

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[lem34]

^^^ thank you bilalbhai thats incredible. why do you think indias problems are not given as much space in western media after all they are far bigger and more important country than pakistan??

 

[RPK]

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Itanagar: Three ULFA cadre were shot dead in an encounter with security forces at Namsai in Lohit district of Arunachal Pradesh, police said today.

The ultras were killed in an encounter with personnel of 26 Maratha Light Infantry regiment near Noadehing Bridge at Namsai in Assam-Arunachal boundary at around 10.15 PM last night, sources said.



"Security forces have been alerted after a specific information about a kidnappings conspiracy plotted by the cadre," Namsai SDPO B Gohain said this morning.

The rebels were asked to surrender but they opened fire at the army personnel and a gunfight started, he said. The slain ultras were identified as Dheeraj Duwara, Shibkumar Maran and Janak Maran who hail from Makum in Assam's Tinsukia district.

One 9 mm pistol, a .22 pistol and a Chinese grenade were found in their possession, Gohain said.

PTI

 

[Dance]

Abduction by Naxalites: Cops file missing case​

MANGALORE: The police, who consistently stated that reports of abduction of a “police informer” by Naxalites were baseless rumours, finally registered a missing case in Hebri police station on Saturday.
When reports of abduction of Sadashiva Gowda of Kabbinale village in Karkala taluk first surfaced a week ago, the police claimed ignorance about the incident.
After being in a denial mode for five days, the police swiftly changed tracks to register a missing case on the complaint filed by Sadashiva Gowda’s brother Raju Gowda.
Sadashiva Gowda, who was making a living by weaving bamboo baskets, set out to collect cane from the forest in order to weave baskets on Monday, and is missing ever since.
It was journalists who were first tipped off about the abduction, when a person identifying himself as Vishwa from a Naxalite group, announced the kidnapping of “police informer” Sadashiva Gowda.
The police department now blames the relatives of Sadashiva Gowda for not promptly lodging a missing complaint. IGP (Western Range) Pratap Reddy neither confirmed the abduction nor denied the registration of missing complaint.
He said the police were in touch with the family members of Gowda since the day he went “missing”.
The department, however, had not received any call from any one, and thus had no reasons to believe it to be an abduction, police said. However not leaving anything to chance, the police had intensified its search operations by forming police teams, they added.
Sources in Hebri police said the Anti-Naxal Force (ANF), with the help of 20 persons, had intensified combing operations. The search parties, which returned to base camps on Sunday evening, had failed to get any clues leading to either the Naxalites or Gowda.
Anti-Naxal Force DIG Alok Kumar denied any intense combing operations by the ANF. “So far, none has contacted the ANF seeking its help. If somebody consults us, we will extend all help,” he said.

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[Abingdonboy]

It's no surprise India has such insurgency issues, the sheer diversity is a major reason. An easy way to describe today’s India would be by comparison to the European Union (EU). If the EU is able to achieve greater integration through a single currency, similarity in legal and administrative structures, unified security and foreign affairs management, and a sense of patriotic loyalty to the Union among the citizens of member nations, then it will closely resemble India. The Indian constitution recognizes 23 official languages3 while the EU has 20 official languages.4 The official figure of “mother tongues” spoken in India is 1,683, of which an estimated 850 are in daily use. The SIL Ethnologue lists 387 living languages for India.5 The social, cultural, religious and ethnic diversity of India surpasses that of the EU.

What is surprising and impressive is India's success against these insurgencies and success in integrating and harmonising the nation.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Indians need to stop worrying about Pakistan, they should take care of 36 freedom movements going on in India.

 

[lem34]

Indians need to stop worrying about Pakistan, they should take care of 36 freedom movements going on in India.

yaar I thought it was 34. didn't realise its gone up. that's incredible

 

[Respect4Respect01]

yaar I thought it was 34. didn't realise its gone up. that's incredible

they are increasing day by day Aryan bhai.

 

[foxbat]

Indians need to stop worrying about Pakistan, they should take care of 36 freedom movements going on in India.

yaar I thought it was 34. didn't realise its gone up. that's incredible

We need to mate.. After all we were a single country a few decades back.. And those few decades have shown that while we are able to preserve our integrity even despite 36 freedom movements, our erstwhile brethren do not have that capability and even a single freedom movement can lead to their country getting broken up like it happened in East Pakistan.. We saw how incredibly sad you guys were 40 years back just around this time, so we worry a little bit when some similar trends start popping up in Pakistan.. Kya karen... Purana rishta hai na aap se.

 

[Areesh]

We need to mate.. After all we were a single country a few decades back.. And those few decades have shown that while we are able to preserve our integrity even despite 36 freedom movements, our erstwhile brethren do not have that capability and even a single freedom movement can lead to their country getting broken up like it happened in East Pakistan.. We saw how incredibly sad you guys were 40 years back just around this time, so we worry a little bit when some similar trends start popping up in Pakistan.. Kya karen... Purana rishta hai na aap se.

36 movements in Bharat are different from what happened in East Pakistan for various reasons. The geography being the biggest one. Things are difficult to understand for Indian youth like you to understand hence you see 1971 east Pakistan in everything from Baluchistan to Sindh to FATA. Good thing is Indian politicians are sane enough to know the difference. And that's what matters.

 

[53fd]

We need to mate.. After all we were a single country a few decades back.. And those few decades have shown that while we are able to preserve our integrity even despite 36 freedom movements, our erstwhile brethren do not have that capability and even a single freedom movement can lead to their country getting broken up like it happened in East Pakistan.. We saw how incredibly sad you guys were 40 years back just around this time, so we worry a little bit when some similar trends start popping up in Pakistan.. Kya karen... Purana rishta hai na aap se.

Yes, what happened 40 years back is comparable to what happened when the Indian subcontinent was split into 3 pieces in 1947, or when the Hindus of North India were converted to Muslims, & were ruled by Muslims for centuries. But that's another topic. Even Sri Lanka saw LTTE violence over 3 decades supported by you-know-who, with over 40,000 people killed in Sri Lanka from 2000-2010; & Sri Lanka's population is the size of Karachi's population (20 million). Pakistan's insurgency in Balochistan will die as well, any insurgency needs external support to survive. India's problem is different because there are deeper faultlines in India, there are parallel governments in certain states with the Marxists in power (despite India apparently being the biggest democracy in the world), then you have districts in states that are controlled by Maoists that are completely out of the control of the state; & are unchallenged. These are embedded & ingrained in Indian society without outside interference, so India will always be plagued by these problems. After all, more Indians have died from 1994-2005 than Pakistanis have in the WOT from 2001-2011. So please, look after your own problems before 'showing concern' about Pakistan.

 

[Yeti]

Yes, what happened 40 years back is comparable to what happened when the Indian subcontinent was split into 3 pieces in 1947, or when the Hindus of North India were converted to Muslims, & were ruled by Muslims for centuries. But that's another topic. Even Sri Lanka saw LTTE violence over 3 decades supported by you-know-who, with over 40,000 people killed in Sri Lanka from 2000-2010; & Sri Lanka's population is the size of Karachi's population (20 million). Pakistan's insurgency in Balochistan will die as well, any insurgency needs external support to survive. India's problem is different because there are deeper faultlines in India, there are parallel governments in certain states with the Marxists in power (despite India apparently being the biggest democracy in the world), then you have districts in states that are controlled by Maoists that are completely out of the control of the state; & are unchallenged. These are embedded & ingrained in Indian society without outside interference, so India will always be plagued by these problems. After all, more Indians have died from 1994-2005 than Pakistanis have in the WOT from 2001-2011. So please, look after your own problems before 'showing concern' about Pakistan.

Off-topic and false information you do not have figures showing the amount of fatalities and last time I checked the Bengal people in the election had voted the CPI out of power.

 

[foxbat]

Yes, what happened 40 years back is comparable to what happened when the Indian subcontinent was split into 3 pieces in 1947, or when the Hindus of North India were converted to Muslims, & were ruled by Muslims for centuries. But that's another topic. Even Sri Lanka saw LTTE violence over 3 decades supported by you-know-who, with over 40,000 people killed in Sri Lanka from 2000-2010; & Sri Lanka's population is the size of Karachi's population (20 million). Pakistan's insurgency in Balochistan will die as well, any insurgency needs external support to survive. India's problem is different because there are deeper faultlines in India, there are parallel governments in certain states with the Marxists in power (despite India apparently being the biggest democracy in the world), then you have districts in states that are controlled by Maoists that are completely out of the control of the state; & are unchallenged. These are embedded & ingrained in Indian society without outside interference, so India will always be plagued by these problems. After all, more Indians have died from 1994-2005 than Pakistanis have in the WOT from 2001-2011. So please, look after your own problems before 'showing concern' about Pakistan.

India's problems are a discussion for a different thread.. Isnt it? Why bring those in a thread about Pakistan and its problems in Baluchistan.. I hear there was another blast there today..

And for the record, there was 1 key difference between 1947 and 1971

In 1947 a foreign occupier divided its colony into 2 parts before giving them independence
In 1971 a part of an independent country broke away to form a separate country..

Thats why 1947 and 1971 can not be compared..

 

[53fd]

India's problems are a discussion for a different thread.. Isnt it? Why bring those in a thread about Pakistan and its problems in Baluchistan.. I hear there was another blast there today..

Yes, but there are still more casualties from violence in India than there are in Pakistan, as well almost daily blasts in India. Check out the Indian insurgency thread for daily updates, you will get plenty of them. Best to look after yourself & your country before showing 'your concern' for Pakistan.

And for the record, there was 1 key difference between 1947 and 1971

But you forget the biggest similarity, that you did not want partition, but we did, & we split the Indian subcontinent into 3 pieces. Just like the Bangladesh sought help from a foreign nation in 1971, the British helped us in the partition of the Indian subcontinent in 1947. But that's for a separate discussion.

Even Sri Lanka saw LTTE violence over 3 decades supported by you-know-who, with over 40,000 people killed in Sri Lanka from 2000-2010; & Sri Lanka's population is the size of Karachi's population (20 million). Pakistan's insurgency in Balochistan will die as well, any insurgency needs external support to survive. India's problem is different because there are deeper faultlines in India, there are parallel governments in certain states with the Marxists in power (despite India apparently being the biggest democracy in the world), then you have districts in states that are controlled by Maoists that are completely out of the control of the state; & are unchallenged. These are embedded & ingrained in Indian society without outside interference, so India will always be plagued by these problems.