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INS Vikrant unlikely to be battle-ready before 2020

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KOCHI: The country's first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, will not be ready to go to war anytime before 2020 even if it's handed over to the Navy in 2018, as is now scheduled.

The 40,000-tonne carrier will have to undergo extensive weapon and aviation trials, which will include supersonic fighters taking off from its angled ski-jump and landing back on the flight deck with the help of "arrestor" wires, before being declared fully-operational, said sources.

But this does not detract from the fact that India is steadily, albeit slowly, building a powerful three-dimensional blue-water Navy for the future at a projected cost upwards of Rs 3 lakh crore over the next 15 years.

Even though INS Vikrant's progress has been excruciatingly slow, it does propel India into the exclusive club of only four nations — the US, Russia, the UK and France — that can build carriers of this size. China did induct a carrier, the 65,000-tonne Liaoning, last September but it was purchased in a half-ready state from Ukraine in 1998.

"The need for a strong and vigilant Navy to defend our mainland, island territories, off-shore assets, EEZ and maintaining our sea lanes of communication needs no emphasis," said defence minister A K Antony, at the "launch" ceremony of INS Vikrant at the Cochin Shipyard on Monday.

Then, of course, India needs to safeguard it primary area of geo-political interest stretching from Persian Gulf to Malacca Strait and beyond as well as effectively counter the expanding Chinese Navy's hunt for "strategic space" in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR).

The Navy, which is "committed" to supporting "indigenization" as a "strategic core competency", has its plans well chalked-out. "Out of the 47 warships and submarines currently on order, 46 are being built in Indian shipyards," said Navy chief Admiral D K Joshi.

But, despite the significant milestone of nuclear submarine INS Arihant's atomic reactor going "critical" on Saturday, the Navy's depleting fleet of 14 aging conventional diesel-electric submarines remains a big source of worry.

The ongoing over Rs 23,000-crore Scorpene submarine construction project at Mazagon Docks is running four years behind the original 2012-17 induction deadline. Moreover, the government has failed to kick start the long-pending second project for six new-generation stealth submarines with both land-attack missile capabilities and air-independent propulsion for greater endurance at a cost of over Rs 50,000 crore. Though Antony on Monday said the project was now in the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for approval, the first submarine under it can roll out only by 2022 at the earliest.

The 260-metre-long INS Vikrant itself will take till 2020 to become battle-worthy. The Navy is all gung-ho about the induction of the 44,570-tonne INS Vikramaditya, the Admiral Gorshkov carrier now undergoing sea trials after the $2.33 billion refit in Russia, by the year-end. The country's solitary carrier at present, the 28,000-tonne INS Viraat, meanwhile continues to soldier on despite being 54-year-old.

Link - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...le-ready-before-2020/articleshow/21782393.cms
 
This article captures the difference between India bureaucrats and Chinese bureaucrats.

When the project is delayed, Indian face it directly but find enough positives immediately, usually after the word "But" in the same article. And propaganda starts and move on to another topic. In the end everybody is content and accepts the delay. Chinese would try to cover it up, those people responsible will be scared. But non-official words will still come out being very negative. But the state media is mute on the subject. Until a remedy is found, then the media turns positive again and the propaganda starts.

In the mean time, individuals from both countries exchange fires on this forum and go home angry.
 
This article captures the difference between India bureaucrats and Chinese bureaucrats.

When the project is delayed, Indian face it directly but find enough positives immediately, usually after the word "But" in the same article. And propaganda starts and move on to another topic. In the end everybody is content and accepts the delay. Chinese would try to cover it up, those people responsible will be scared. But non-official words will still come out being very negative. But the state media is mute on the subject. Until a remedy is found, then the media turns positive again and the propaganda starts.

In the mean time, individuals from both countries exchange fires on this forum and go home angry.

Reality Check:

Meanwhile China tells that the project is delayed by 1 year. But in reality the project is delayed by 10 years.

No Chinese can know a word more then what the CCP decides to tell.
 
This article captures the difference between India bureaucrats and Chinese bureaucrats.

When the project is delayed, Indian face it directly but find enough positives immediately, usually after the word "But" in the same article. And propaganda starts and move on to another topic. In the end everybody is content and accepts the delay. Chinese would try to cover it up, those people responsible will be scared. But non-official words will still come out being very negative. But the state media is mute on the subject. Until a remedy is found, then the media turns positive again and the propaganda starts.

In the mean time, individuals from both countries exchange fires on this forum and go home angry.

Nope...Chinese just end up compromising their requirements but Indians are stringent as no one would supply you the hi-tech instruments and weapons required. If the Israelis and the French were allowed to sell their hardware you wouldnt mind jumping at the offer.
 
Reality Check:

Meanwhile China tells that the project is delayed by 1 year. But in reality the project is delayed by 10 years.

No Chinese can know a word more then what the CCP decides to tell.

When was the last time, the CCP actually announced a date for anything? So this delay makes no sense as we never announce anything to begin with.

Like our engine program, there are pictures of it being equipped, but of course no official words from the military.

Besides, we would stack our delays against yours any day.
 
When was the last time, the CCP actually announced a date for anything? So this delay makes no sense as we never announce anything to begin with.

Like our engine program, there are pictures of it being equipped, but of course no official words from the military.

Besides, we would stack our delays against yours any day.

CCP never gives any date, so there is no question of any delay.. :D

The engine could be ready in 1990, 2000, 2013, 2020,2030 all dates means means its on time for ignorant Chinese. :D
 
When was the last time, the CCP actually announced a date for anything? So this delay makes no sense as we never announce anything to begin with.

Like our engine program, there are pictures of it being equipped, but of course no official words from the military.

Besides, we would stack our delays against yours any day.

But you just said in your previous post that you try to cover up your delay!!

And now you are saying that you dont declare dates to begin with!!

What the :rofl:
 
Well there is a lot of work to be done. But asking for 7 years is too much.

IN should aggressively demand it to be ready by 2017 at least.
 
Well there is a lot of work to be done. But asking for 7 years is too much.

IN should aggressively demand it to be ready by 2017 at least.

dont worry it will be modular construction and foriegn help will come handy just wait for one year and youl know what i am talking
 
dont worry it will be modular construction and foriegn help will come handy just wait for one year and youl know what i am talking

That's there. But why are PSUs so slow?

I want to know the real answer. Bureaucracy is general reply.
 
CCP never gives any date, so there is no question of any delay.. :D

The engine could be ready in 1990, 2000, 2013, 2020,2030 all dates means means its on time for ignorant Chinese. :D

that's because we do stuff before speaking, but ego thirsty high caste Indians cannot stop bragging to make them feel good, and this has been proven again and again

and on this indian first 'indigenous' AC case, its entire development is dependent on foreign direct tech assistance and hardware support, India cannot make anything from engines, weapons, radar to even the very basics that's the reality

Even Chinese members can't answer that as the CCP dictators won't give them the dates according to Chinese members here.
:lol:
we prefer results rather than like the feudal Gandhi family's empty boasts, there is a reason that why after 60 years of 'development' India is still at primitive stage of social and economical development
 

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