INS CHENNAI ALMOST READY FOR SEA TRAILS

[arp2041]

But i hate the fire power of this ships... it should be mounted by another 32 + 16 BrahMos and B-8

aur 10-15 Agni 5 bhi laga dete hai sirjee......

 

[$@rJen]

When is the next Kamorta Class coming along.

Ship should be commissioned by next month

 

[Ankit Kumar]

@kaykay

At present US has stopped using OHPs and most of them have been or are being disposed of. But they are still holding 8 OHPs for foreign sales.

Apart from this. Pakistan has recently installed 2x4 Harpoon missiles on there lone OHP.

So no one can say 100% surely that no more OHPs are coming.

And on additional Chinese vessels, well sir, neither were talks going on for MRBL and SPH for Pakistan army, but here they are operating a good number of Chinese machines.

China does not necessarily give new builds, they have a very big pool of relatively new hull frigates.

 

[$@rJen]

@kaykay

At present US has stopped using OHPs and most of them have been or are being disposed of. But they are still holding 8 OHPs for foreign sales.

Apart from this. Pakistan has recently installed 2x4 Harpoon missiles on there lone OHP.

So no one can say 100% surely that no more OHPs are coming.

And on additional Chinese vessels, well sir, neither were talks going on for MRBL and SPH for Pakistan army, but here they are operating a good number of Chinese machines.

China does not necessarily give new builds, they have a very big pool of relatively new hull frigates.

There were talks about PN buying 4 OHP class ships.. but then there was no news most probably is becasue they are going with F-22 frigates... and OHP is a junk ship.. its waste of buying them since they don't have much life left in them.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

PN won't buy Destroyers of that size at least till 2025, because of the Funds.. their recent Sub accusation to replace the older subs itself is going to consume their funds for the next 5 years even with Soft loan.

Sir both Type 054 and Type 053H2G are frigates. And there new submarine purchase has very less to do with replacing old submarines. They need replacement only for 2 Agosta 70. Its to keep India engaged.

Theres no way Bangladesh is going to fight us. not a single chance... they're buying Weapons with Myanmar in Mind

Same we thought and then the border skirmish occured. Prevention is better than cure.

There were talks about PN buying 4 OHP class ships.. but then there was no news most probably is becasue they are going with F-22 frigates... and OHP is a junk ship.. its waste of buying them since they don't have much life left in them.

Yes this was the situation till some time. But now PN have Harpoons installed on OHP. There is no way, they did this without US. And this does hint that OHP option is not dead.

And OHPs are not at all junk.If our Rajput class despite going over 35, is useful then about 25 year old OHPs will certainly be.

 

[kaykay]

@kaykay

At present US has stopped using OHPs and most of them have been or are being disposed of. But they are still holding 8 OHPs for foreign sales.

Apart from this. Pakistan has recently installed 2x4 Harpoon missiles on there lone OHP.

So no one can say 100% surely that no more OHPs are coming.

And on additional Chinese vessels, well sir, neither were talks going on for MRBL and SPH for Pakistan army, but here they are operating a good number of Chinese machines.

China does not necessarily give new builds, they have a very big pool of relatively new hull frigates.

Dude OHP sales to Pakistan is string attached ( Pakistan have to fulfil 6-7 conditions which USA demands and one of them is to free Shakil afridi who helped USA killing OBL). Trust me there's no way Pakistan is gonna fulfil them and thats why deal is stuck from many years now.

 

[[Bregs]]

Indian Navy is cruising nicely by new additions of warships and subs to have desired number of fleets by 2020

 

[$@rJen]

Sir both Type 054 and Type 053H2G are frigates. And there new submarine purchase has very less to do with replacing old submarines. They need replacement only for 2 Agosta 70. Its to keep India engaged.

Same we thought and then the border skirmish occured. Prevention is better than cure.

My bad...

See pakistan's 6-8 frigates that was bought from US,UK are more than 40 years old hull.. they need to be replaced, they don't have funds to buy Type-54 ships that's why they're going for F-22 in 6-10 nnumbers.. and with funds been poured on Subs.. ya i agree only two needs to be replaced, only threat from PN is these Subs other than that nothing. that's why sighting this Navy Decided to go for 8 more Kamortas and P-8's numbers going to increased.

Border Skirmishes is one thing War is another thing... do you tink the fault was entirly on them?? i don't think so.. there was no need for the BSF to go deep into their territory either

 

[Ankit Kumar]

@kaykay

Sir, so did I believed. Untill I saw Harpoons on the lone OHP. There could be no way, Pakistan did this on their own.

Now if US is supplying them harpoon to arm the lone OHP then ......

Sir 2 things which stirred my mind.
1.That condition thing is now some 2-3 year old. There is no source about their present stance. And since Americans are helping them with there lone OHP, then.....

2. Even after Turkey denied buying excess OHPs. USA is holding 8 ships for sale. Lets assume, that 2 go to Taiwan. 2 More to some random African Nation. There still remain 4.

My bad...

See pakistan's 6-8 frigates that was bought from US,UK are more than 40 years old hull.. they need to be replaced, they don't have funds to buy Type-54 ships that's why they're going for F-22 in 6-10 nnumbers.. and with funds been poured on Subs.. ya i agree only two needs to be replaced, only threat from PN is these Subs other than that nothing. that's why sighting this Navy Decided to go for 8 more Kamortas and P-8's numbers going to increased.

Border Skirmishes is one thing War is another thing... do you tink the fault was entirly on them?? i don't think so.. there was no need for the BSF to go deep into their territory either

Sir funds is something , that Pakistan is better than us when it comes to utilization. And the Type 054A , they are building it at the cost of around 1.6 Billion Yuan, meaning around 400 million USD. NOW that's not very costly.

 

[kaykay]

@kaykay

Sir, so did I believed. Untill I saw Harpoons on the lone OHP. There could be no way, Pakistan did this on their own.

Now if US is supplying them harpoon to arm the lone OHP then ......

Sir 2 things which stirred my mind.
1.That condition thing is now some 2-3 year old. There is no source about their present stance. And since Americans are helping them with there lone OHP, then.....

2. Even after Turkey denied buying excess OHPs. USA is holding 8 ships for sale. Lets assume, that 2 go to Taiwan. 2 More to some random African Nation. There still remain 4.




Sir funds is something , that Pakistan is better than us when it comes to utilization. And the Type 054A , they are building it at the cost of around 1.6 Billion Yuan, meaning around 400 million USD. NOW that's not very costly.

Ankit, did you seriously think Pakistan would have bought first OHP without assurance of any AShm on board? especially when they uses harpoons with their P-3 orions.

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[$@rJen]

Sir funds is something , that Pakistan is better than us when it comes to utilization. And the Type 054A , they are building it at the cost of around 1.6 Billion Yuan, meaning around 400 million USD. NOW that's not very costly.

Dude cost is the main issue... Pakistan Military Budget is somewhere areound what 8-10 billio and only 10% of it goes to PN.. now with PN buying 8 subs at the costs of 4-5 billion (or more) what's eft with them?? there were news back in 2009 to buy 4 of Typr-054A from China but then it was put on hold due to costs.. China is building for them at the cost of 400 million, do you expect the export version to be the same cost?? and how about arming them with both Defensive and offensive weapons?? then a single ship will cost more than 700 million..

 

[thesolar65]

What is this "ALMOST" ready? Or "NEARLY" ready.....or "MAYBE" ready?

A ship is either ready or not ready.....simple!

These days, I find you always angry?? Why? Jo ho gaya so gaya!!

 

[Raje amar]

@kaykay

At present US has stopped using OHPs and most of them have been or are being disposed of. But they are still holding 8 OHPs for foreign sales.

Apart from this. Pakistan has recently installed 2x4 Harpoon missiles on there lone OHP.

So no one can say 100% surely that no more OHPs are coming.

And on additional Chinese vessels, well sir, neither were talks going on for MRBL and SPH for Pakistan army, but here they are operating a good number of Chinese machines.

China does not necessarily give new builds, they have a very big pool of relatively new hull frigates.

I totally agree with you....
We must not underestimate the opponent....
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

Ankit, did you seriously think Pakistan would have bought first OHP without assurance of any AShm on board? especially when they uses harpoons with their P-3 orions.

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Yes, an AShM would have been a must, after being a patrol ship for 4 years, then getting them. This was odd for me.

And yes, sir they have been using harpoon from there submarines and type21s, but for first years, no weapons and then suddenly.

Well never mind. I would be the happiest of they have to go for Chinese over American stuff.

 

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