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VISAKHAPATNAM: Indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant will not feature at the ongoing International Fleet Review, the navy chief, Admiral R.K. Dhowan, said on Friday.

"No," the naval chief replied when asked if the submarine will feature at the IFR, without giving any details.

NS Arihant, a 6,000-tonne submarine, is presently in the final stages of sea trials.

This puts to rest speculation on the submarine's induction in the navy during the four-day event in which around 50 navies from around the globe are participating.

The event began on Thursday with the inauguration of a maritime exhibition and IFR village here.

Indian Navy officers have said in the past that they were keen to showcase INS Arihant at the IFR though there can be no compromises with the sea trials.

INS Arihant is India's first indigenous nuclear submarine, and the lead ship of Arihant class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines launched in 2009.

It was initially expected to go for sea trials by 2012, though this happened only in December 2015.

The vessel's miniaturised nuclear reactor, built with Russian help, went critical in 2013.
Once inducted, the submarine will complete the country's nuclear triad, giving it the capability to respond to nuclear strikes from sea, land and air-based systems.

The project is being undertaken under the Advanced Technology Vessel programme under the supervision of the Prime Minister's Office and involving agencies and establishments such as the Defence Research and Development Organisation, the Department of Atomic Energy and the Submarine Design Group of the Directorate of Naval Design, besides private companies such as Larsen & Toubro.

The submarine's design is based on the Russian Akula-1 class submarines and its 83 MW pressurised water reactor has been built with significant Russian assistance.

While its 100-member crew has been trained by Russian specialists, Indian scientists at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre have received significant expertise in reducing the reactor size to help it fit into the 10-metre diameter hull of the submarine.

India currently operates Russian-origin nuclear-powered submarine INS Chakra, which it leased for 10 years from Russia in 2012.

Nuclear submarines have the capability to stay out at sea longer, and don't need to surface for a long duration.

Conventional diesel-electric submarines have to come up to the surface at regular intervals for charging their batteries.

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INS Arihant not to feature at International Fleet Review: Indian Navy chief - The Economic Times
 
Very good news..

For weeks i was very apprehensive that if Arihant which is our third leg of our Nuclear triad and typically SSBN comes out in open in front of all the ships and its acoustic signature/noise levels are known then we would be fools to consider it as third leg and surprise element in our N Doctrine..

We should keep it well hidden away from all this..

Its commissioning is expected in next 5-6 months max with the launch of its sister ship Aridhaman. Rumors are rife that it carries 8 tubes or 24 K15s/8K4s/8K5s

but i do want a video of Arihant launching 12 K15s at salvo mode.. displaying its power or say 9 K15s and 1 K4 launch video.. release it in IFR...
 
Very good news..

For weeks i was very apprehensive that if Arihant which is our third leg of our Nuclear triad and typically SSBN comes out in open in front of all the ships and its acoustic signature/noise levels are known then we would be fools to consider it as third leg and surprise element in our N Doctrine..

We should keep it well hidden away from all this..

Its commissioning is expected in next 5-6 months max with the launch of its sister ship Aridhaman. Rumors are rife that it carries 8 tubes or 24 K15s/8K4s/8K5s

but i do want a video of Arihant launching 12 K15s at salvo mode.. displaying its power or say 9 K15s and 1 K4 launch video.. release it in IFR...

From my limited understanding of a Nuclear Deterrent isn't the main job of a nuclear deterrent to deter. So why should we keep such assets in secret instead of shouting from the rooftop about them ?

Very good news..

For weeks i was very apprehensive that if Arihant which is our third leg of our Nuclear triad and typically SSBN comes out in open in front of all the ships and its acoustic signature/noise levels are known then we would be fools to consider it as third leg and surprise element in our N Doctrine..

We should keep it well hidden away from all this..

Its commissioning is expected in next 5-6 months max with the launch of its sister ship Aridhaman. Rumors are rife that it carries 8 tubes or 24 K15s/8K4s/8K5s

but i do want a video of Arihant launching 12 K15s at salvo mode.. displaying its power or say 9 K15s and 1 K4 launch video.. release it in IFR...

From my limited understanding of a Nuclear Deterrent isn't the main job of a nuclear deterrent to deter. So why should we keep such assets in secret instead of shouting from the rooftop about them ?
 
It would have been stupid to showcase Arihant with the Chinese Navy being present

Any idea about 3rd Arihant class sub

When will it be launched
 
From my limited understanding of a Nuclear Deterrent isn't the main job of a nuclear deterrent to deter. So why should we keep such assets in secret instead of shouting from the rooftop about them ?
Bcz there acoustic signature once known will be like a suicide mission for our SSBN. Every fleet will know thats Arihant which is snooping in deep waters and carrying nukes.

Yes we should of course shout from rooftop. And for that i said this
but i do want a video of Arihant launching 12 K15s at salvo mode.. displaying its power or say 9 K15s and 1 K4 launch video.. release it in IFR...

See a successfully salvo launch of 8-9 K15s with say different warhead mass showcasing 750 Km -1200 km strike range and then a K4 launch showcasing a 3500-4000 Km range sends the message about its capability. On top since there is no signature in the system, its surprise element factor remains present.

Remember this
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The Rostov-on-Don is an Improved Kilo class submarine fires "Kalibr" Cruise Missiles at Syrian Targets early Dec 2015. Those are just CMs.. Imagine a salvo launch of BMs and the K4.. Which all know as the N warhead missile like Agni series.

Thats the fear we should cause after all Arihant means "Slayer of Enemies". So we should of course show case it but not let any navy know its true specs ever.

You are going to piss and scare some souls :D
We dont get such opportunities many times..

piss - true :woot:,
scare --- hell yeah :bunny:
 
Atlast sanity prevails in the end....
Giving away acoustic signature of a stratergic platform would have been absurd...
Just release a video of arihant launching k4 instead
 
As expected, it never made sense to showcase the INS Arihant in a public setting with international navies present- the IN would have to be made to give away its secrets like that.
 
From my limited understanding of a Nuclear Deterrent isn't the main job of a nuclear deterrent to deter. So why should we keep such assets in secret instead of shouting from the rooftop about them ?



From my limited understanding of a Nuclear Deterrent isn't the main job of a nuclear deterrent to deter. So why should we keep such assets in secret instead of shouting from the rooftop about them ?
To conceal it's acoustic signature.
 
Journo asks a question about whether INS Arihant will be at the IFR and if not why not (44.25):


CNS: "you wll not see Arihant at IFR"

Perfect answer, no need to induldge these drama queens in the media and give away details regarding strategic projects.

@PARIKRAMA @Levina @MilSpec @Guynextdoor2 @Nilgiri @jaiind
 
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Journo asks a question about whether INS Arihant will be at the IFR and if not why not (44.25):


CNS: "you wll not see Arihant at IFR"

Perfect answer, no need to induldge these drama queens in the media and give away details regarding strategic projects.

@PARIKRAMA @Levina @MilSpec @Guynextdoor2 @Nilgiri @jaiind

Thank god. I was concerned someone was being real stupid in bringing out Arihant this early for everyone to have a look see at.
 

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