Indonesia's First Formula One Driver

[Indos]

That's not true. He took out a bank loan to fund his way into the BRM F1 team but not Ferrari- Ferrari are the biggest team in F1 and they don't need or take pay drivers.


Nikki Lauda is Austrian.

I saw the movie by the way, it is Ferrari F 1 team that I saw get paid from him.......

I dont know which one is true, your Wiki knowledge or the movie that is true, there is real (old) Niki Lauda appeared on the movie though....

 

[Abingdonboy]

I saw the movie by the way, it is Ferrari F 1 team that I saw get paid from him.......

I dont know which one is true, your Wiki knowledge or the movie that is true, there is real (old) Niki Lauda appeared on the movie though....

I think if you watch the movie again you'll see that Niki didn't pay to get into Ferrari

 

[Indos]

I think if you watch the movie again you'll see that Niki didn't pay to get into Ferrari

Okay, I will if I have time.......

Regardless of that, neither you or me which is true, Niki Lauda still has similar way to get F 1 seat, which is by paying some money ( using loan ). We are only in dispute regarding which F 1 team that he actually paid to get the driver seat.

And Rio Haryanto in the other hand get it from sponsor, and actually not only Pertamina who give the money, but also Tag Heuer
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Niki Lauda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lauda took out another bank loan to buy his way into the BRM team in 1973. Lauda was instantly quick, but the team was in decline; his big break came when his BRM teammate Clay Regazzoni left to rejoin Ferrari in 1974 and team owner Enzo Ferrari asked him what he thought of Lauda. Regazzoni spoke so favourably of Lauda that Ferrari promptly signed him, paying Niki enough to clear his debts.

 

[yoshi.oda]

Ganbareii Rio!

 

[LowPost]

Job well done, Rio!!!!

Tho i am not Indonesian, am proud of you !!!!!!

I expect you to go head to head with our own Kamui Kobayashi in the future !

And one of my personal favorites, Kazuki Nakajima

If Rio's F1 career doesn't go on as planned, chances will be good that he might end up in Super Formula, where Kamui is competing at the moment. Another possibility is the World Endurance Championship, in which Kazuki is a Toyota driver in the LMP1 class. Or he will wind up racing in IndyCar and meet Takuma Sato, arguably the best Japanese driver to ever compete in F1.

 

[alaungphaya]

You should know that only 3 best driver in Formula 2 competition that can go to Formula 1. And it has been F-1 competition nature to get sponsor from the driver. Even Niki Lauda has used his own money to secure seat at Ferrari F 1 team. Niki Lauda come from a very rich German family.

Rio Haryanto has become a Manor team F 1 test driver in 2011.

You should know that promotion to F1 is not automatic. Firstly it's GP2, not F2. F2 is something completely different. The F1 teams choose whether to take drivers from GP2 or not. Sometimes the good ones completely skip the lower formulas like Verstappen. And Haryanto has never been in the top 3 in GP2. Infact, when I used to watch GP2, he was quite crap. It was only in his last season that he won some races and came 4th. Every driver is expected to bring in sponsorship money but there is a difference between a paying driver and a pay driver. Fernando Alonso and Alex Yoong were great examples in 2001. Both bought a seat at the perennial back markers Minardi but whereas Alonso was a natural talent who wasn't given the breaks by the big teams and managed to find private backers, Yoong was just a rich boy who used his connections to get a seat. The result was Alonso would go a second or two faster a lap because the gulf in quality was so vast. Yoong left the sport a year later and Alonso became one of the greatest of all time. I don't know how Haryanto will pan out but let's not compare him to Nicki Lauda just yet.

If Rio's F1 career doesn't go on as planned, chances will be good that he might end up in Super Formula, where Kamui is competing at the moment. Another possibility is the World Endurance Championship, in which Kazuki is a Toyota driver in the LMP1 class. Or he will wind up racing in IndyCar and meet Takuma Sato, arguably the best Japanese driver to ever compete in F1.

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Aguri Suzuki was probably the best Jap. Satoru Nakajima could have been a really good driver but he was unlucky to have been born too early so he didn't get to F1 'til he was nearly 40. Sato was pretty good but I think Kamui was the best after Suzuki. I'm a big fan of Kamui. I used to not like the Japanese drivers at all because usually they were an embarassment and were only there because of sponsorship from Japanese companies. A lot of really awful Japanese drivers turned out in the 90's and early 00's that should not have been in F1. Kamui was unlucky in that by the time he came along, his backers Toyota were pulling out of F1 along with the rest of corporate Japan. He was one of the rare Japanese drivers that managed to get a seat without hardly any sponsorship. He was actually the lead driver for Sauber and he was very exciting to watch. If he was around in the 90's, he would have been a top-10 star without doubt and maybe even challenged for the title at some point or atleast have driven for one of the big teams.

Kamui actually lost his seat to a pay driver in Gutierrez who was pretty awful himself.

Actually, I miss Koba. This was his last action in a goodF1 car:

Some more Koba:

My personal favourite:

 

[MarveL]

 

[powastick]

You should know that promotion to F1 is not automatic. Firstly it's GP2, not F2. F2 is something completely different. The F1 teams choose whether to take drivers from GP2 or not. Sometimes the good ones completely skip the lower formulas like Verstappen. And Haryanto has never been in the top 3 in GP2. Infact, when I used to watch GP2, he was quite crap. It was only in his last season that he won some races and came 4th. Every driver is expected to bring in sponsorship money but there is a difference between a paying driver and a pay driver. Fernando Alonso and Alex Yoong were great examples in 2001. Both bought a seat at the perennial back markers Minardi but whereas Alonso was a natural talent who wasn't given the breaks by the big teams and managed to find private backers, Yoong was just a rich boy who used his connections to get a seat. The result was Alonso would go a second or two faster a lap because the gulf in quality was so vast. Yoong left the sport a year later and Alonso became one of the greatest of all time. I don't know how Haryanto will pan out but let's not compare him to Nicki Lauda just yet.



Aguri Suzuki was probably the best Jap. Satoru Nakajima could have been a really good driver but he was unlucky to have been born too early so he didn't get to F1 'til he was nearly 40. Sato was pretty good but I think Kamui was the best after Suzuki. I'm a big fan of Kamui. I used to not like the Japanese drivers at all because usually they were an embarassment and were only there because of sponsorship from Japanese companies. A lot of really awful Japanese drivers turned out in the 90's and early 00's that should not have been in F1. Kamui was unlucky in that by the time he came along, his backers Toyota were pulling out of F1 along with the rest of corporate Japan. He was one of the rare Japanese drivers that managed to get a seat without hardly any sponsorship. He was actually the lead driver for Sauber and he was very exciting to watch. If he was around in the 90's, he would have been a top-10 star without doubt and maybe even challenged for the title at some point or atleast have driven for one of the big teams.

Kamui actually lost his seat to a pay driver in Gutierrez who was pretty awful himself.

Actually, I miss Koba. This was his last action in a goodF1 car:

Some more Koba:

My personal favourite:

Kobyashi no doubt has some skill in overtaking, but he not consistent enough.

 

[alaungphaya]

Kobyashi no doubt has some skill in overtaking, but he not consistent enough.

His problem was tyre management. He could never look after his tyres properly. But that kind of thing can be taught. How to race and go fast is a natural skill. These days though, the car is much more important than the drivers and teams choose car managers who can allow the car to perform well than racers who always try to go the fastest and try to overtake.

 

[MarveL]

He's keen alright. 30 mins to go & he's already strapped in tight.

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[Daniel808]

JKT48 ! Cute, show more!

AKB's producer - Yasushi Akimoto - has also founded a group in Shanghai called SNH48.

This guy has developed a chain business from Tokyo (Akihabara) to Shanghai to Jakarta, nice! I always like to watch pretty girls dancing in groups, you bro?

Every guy always like to watch pretty girls. whatever she does Lol

Yes, Shinta Naomi is very cute

About SNH48, There is a very beauty and gorgeous member, Zhao jiamin
She is from Canton too, just like my father.

Very Gorgeous !

By the way, do you ever seen Formula1 Grandprix in Shanghai International Circuit, bro?
Beautiful Circuit

 

[Shotgunner51]

Every guy always like to watch pretty girls. whatever she does Lol

Yes, Shinta Naomi is very cute
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About SNH48, There is a very beauty and gorgeous member, Zhao jiamin
She is from Canton too, just like my father.
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Very Gorgeous !

By the way, do you ever seen Formula1 Grandprix in Shanghai International Circuit, bro?
Beautiful Circuit

She is crazily gorgeous OMG! Two things guy will die for: cars, women!

Sure have been to Shanghai F1 circuit, even drove inside it! But of course not F1 but street cars. Many racing fans group in Shanghai, check this thread: China's Blue Sky Rescue Team completes Nepal mission

 

[Daniel808]

She is crazily gorgeous OMG! Two things guy will die for: cars, women!

Sure have been to Shanghai F1 circuit, even drove inside it! But of course not F1 but street cars. Many racing fans group in Shanghai, check this thread: China's Blue Sky Rescue Team completes Nepal mission

You are very lucky
Someday, if I am go to Shanghai, you must Accompany me to this Circuit, bro. Lol

 

[Shotgunner51]

You are very lucky
Someday, if I am go to Shanghai, you must Accompany me to this Circuit, bro. Lol

Sure, come bro, I gonna show you around. There are many racing fans groups as well as circuits other than F1. We play at Tianma. Many cars are not official-spec, no road license so circuit only, you gonna love these.

 

[Indos]

Beside Rio Haryanto who is in F 1 competition, Sean Gelael and Paz Armand who are in F 2 competition, in the past we also have female Asian Formula Renault racer. The first in Asia I believe.

Alexandra Asmasoebrata.

He got runner up Asian Formula Renault 2011 competition for Asian category