Indonesia to deploy navy force near South China Sea

[S10]

The UN doesn't recognize the 9DL.

UN does not take a position on the matter. It's up to individual member states.

We don't recognize your EEZ overlapping our Nine Dash Line either. If you want to keep posturing aggressive, maybe one day we don't recognize your sovereignty. Don't create territorial disputes when there isn't one, especially with your own territory.

 

[Titanium100]

Yes, China cannot bomb tokyo at that time. But Japan also cannot take down China. Because China too big for them to conquer.

A stalemate for next 10 years, yes I'm agree.
But after that Japan still cannot take over whole China, and will pull back their troops to Manchuria.

You need to know, that in 1937 Japan's economy are on dire situation. With defence spending (War with China) eat almost 50% of their whole GDP every year. The war with China is Unsustainable for them.

Soon or later they will pull out all of their troops from China, with or without US entering the war.





Indeed, very interesting one @Place Of Space


When China landed on those islands, and their Navy Patrolling the waters (SCS).

Those nations still life in the jungle and killing each other.

Read more book, instead trolling and barking in here
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Naval forces of the Song State of the Southern Dynasties (420–479 CE) patrolled the Paracel and Spratly islands.
In the Tang dynasty (618–907 CE), the islands were placed under the administration and authority of the Qiongzhou Perfecture (now Hainan Province).

Does this look like International borders to you or a claim. China is definitely trolling everyone they can't even be serious about this claim themselves..

Seems like you are the one living in the past.

 

[striver44]

UN does not take a position on the matter. It's up to individual member states.

We don't recognize your EEZ overlapping our Nine Dash Line either. If you want to keep posturing aggressive, maybe one day we don't recognize your sovereignty. Don't create territorial disputes when there isn't one, especially with your own territory.

No it's not.

South China Sea Arbitration - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do it , stop recognize Indonesia. Haha
What's stopping you ??

 

[leviathan]

Deployment of combat squad on Natuna islands comes following escalating tension in disputed waters

News Service15:27 November 23, 2020AA

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Photograph: Antara Foto Agency
The Indonesian Navy will move the headquarters of its combat squad to Natuna islands bordering the South China Sea, said an official on Monday.
Speaking at a news conference, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Yudo Margono said the naval combat force (Guspurla) Command Fleet I, which is currently deployed in the capital Jakarta, will be permanently transferred to Natuna.
The force is in charge of conducting marine combat and amphibious operations to support sea control and achieve strategic objectives in order to enforce law and uphold sovereignty in territorial sea.
The deployment came following escalating tension in the South China Sea and the region.
"In anticipation of something that can happen any time, the Commander of the combat force can directly lead a warship with the deployed task force," Margono told reporters.
Apart from the Natuna region, he said, Indonesian Navy is also anticipating vulnerabilities at the sea borders, including Malacca Strait, Ambalat Block and Pacific Ocean.
Natuna islands border the South China Sea, most of which is claimed by China despite competing claims from other Southeast Asian nations, including Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia.
The waters around the islands are believed to have rich reserves of undiscovered oil and gas. The islands are located on a crucial passage for commercial shipping.
In 2019-2020, there have been several escalations between Indonesia and China over violations of territory by a Chinese coastguard in disputed waters around the island claimed by Jakarta.
* Writing by Rhany Chairunissa Rufinaldo from Anadolu Agency's Indonesian language services in Jakarta.

Indonesia to deploy navy force near South China Sea | Politics

Deployment of combat squad on Natuna islands comes following escalating tension in disputed waters

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This tinny boat is just sad.... I bet it will have trouble beating a WWII frigate...

 

[Titanium100]

This tinny boat is just sad.... I bet it will have trouble beating a WWII frigate...

What makes you think your ships are invincable they can easily get sunk with minimal effort. Speedboats, Under-water mines, under-water drones etc etc. It's just a burial place for a unit nowadays in this modern age and time.

 

[S10]

No it's not.

South China Sea Arbitration - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do it , stop recognize Indonesia. Haha
What's stopping you ??

A ruling from a kangaroo court that both Australia and US had ignored before? My 6 year old niece playing judge probably had more standing than that clown show.

Also, UN did not recognize the ruling as theirs:

"You know, the UN doesn't have a position on the legal and procedural merits of the case or on the disputed claims. And, you know, as for the details concerning the settlements of disputes mechanism under the Convention of the Law of the Sea that are set forth in paragraph… in Part XV and relevant annexes to that treaty; thus, the Secretary‑General does not have anything to add in this regard. Mr. Lee? "

Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General | UN Press

www.un.org

" The United Nations said on Wednesday it has nothing to do with the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA), which set up a tribunal that handled the South China Sea arbitration case the Philippines filed unilaterally in 2013. "

Arbitral court not a UN agency

BEIJING (China Daily/ANN) - United Nations highlighted that PCA which handled the South China Sea dispute is not a UN agency.

web.archive.org

Keep pushing and you'll find out. You seem to be in a big hurry to lose Natunas. Silly second hand Indian.

 

[Titanium100]

Keep pushing and you'll find out. You seem to be in a big hurry to lose Natunas. Silly second hand Indian.

You could have taken Taiwan centuries ago if these baby steps were to be taken serious. China is growing currently not there yet. Drink more milk and grow up and add some muscle mass. China is first ready in 2050s

 

[striver44]

A ruling from a kangaroo court that both Australia and US had ignored before? My 6 year old niece playing judge probably had more standing than that clown show.

Also, UN did not recognize the ruling as theirs:

"You know, the UN doesn't have a position on the legal and procedural merits of the case or on the disputed claims. And, you know, as for the details concerning the settlements of disputes mechanism under the Convention of the Law of the Sea that are set forth in paragraph… in Part XV and relevant annexes to that treaty; thus, the Secretary‑General does not have anything to add in this regard. Mr. Lee? "

Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General | UN Press

www.un.org

" The United Nations said on Wednesday it has nothing to do with the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA), which set up a tribunal that handled the South China Sea arbitration case the Philippines filed unilaterally in 2013. "

Arbitral court not a UN agency

BEIJING (China Daily/ANN) - United Nations highlighted that PCA which handled the South China Sea dispute is not a UN agency.

web.archive.org

Keep pushing and you'll find out. You seem to be in a big hurry to lose Natunas. Silly second hand Indian.

If it's a kangaroo court, why bother attend in the first place.?
Haha

Anyway what's with you guys with India,?it seems everyone is Indian these days lel

 

[Daniel808]

If it's a kangaroo court, why bother attend in the first place.?
Haha

Anyway what's with you guys with India,?it seems everyone is Indian these days lel

They don't attend.

Even UN siding with China, and Declare they had nothing to do with kangaroo court

Does this look like International borders to you or a claim. China is definitely trolling everyone they can't even be serious about this claim themselves..

Seems like you are the one living in the past.

China is a Powerful country, so they can do what they think its right (Claiming Paracel and Spratly Islands)
Just like US, claiming Guam and Hawaii as their territory. They don't ask for your approval

 

[Titanium100]

They don't attend.

Even UN siding with China, and Declare they had nothing to do with kangaroo court


China is a Powerful country, so they can do what they think its right (Claiming Paracel and Spratly Islands)
Just like US, claiming Guam and Hawaii as their territory. They don't ask for your approval

What is holding you back then? you don't even have Taiwan which is also amongst the fanciful claims. Talk is easy but hard to walk the walk

 

[Viet]

Yes, China cannot bomb tokyo at that time. But Japan also cannot take down China. Because China too big for them to conquer.

A stalemate for next 10 years, yes I'm agree.
But after that Japan still cannot take over whole China, and will pull back their troops to Manchuria.

You need to know, that in 1937 Japan's economy are on dire situation. With defence spending (War with China) eat almost 50% of their whole GDP every year. The war with China is Unsustainable for them.

Soon or later they will pull out all of their troops from China, with or without US entering the war.





Indeed, very interesting one @Place Of Space


When China landed on those islands, and their Navy Patrolling the waters (SCS).

Those nations still life in the jungle and killing each other.

Read more book, instead trolling and barking in here
View attachment 691324

Page 156 :
Naval forces of the Song State of the Southern Dynasties (420–479 CE) patrolled the Paracel and Spratly islands.
In the Tang dynasty (618–907 CE), the islands were placed under the administration and authority of the Qiongzhou Perfecture (now Hainan Province).

How can you claim the seas and islands when your forefathers came from the central plain?
I mean we come from the jungle as you say it, still the seas and islands are next to us.

 

[Daniel808]

What is holding you back then? you don't even have Taiwan which is also amongst the fanciful claims. Talk is easy but hard to walk the walk

You don't think Gigantic China afraid of small ROC, right China even don't hesitate to kill Indian soldiers in Ladakh.

China still have patience toward ROC.
Because basically, Chinese don't like to kill other Chinese.

That's why they are still waiting, and its a benefit for China too.
Because the longer they wait, China Military Superiority become much higher day by day toward ROC military.

China is a country that can build a 40,000 Tonnes LHD (Type 075) with only 6 month (keel laying to launching), and they plan to build another 8 in the next 4 years.

Time is siding with China right now.
So why not Enjoy it a little bit

How can you claim the seas and islands when your forefathers came from the central plain?
I mean we come from the jungle as you say it, still the seas and islands are next to us.

How can those immigrant from atlantic claim the islands in the middle of pacific?

As a Strong Country, they can do what they think its right. Doesn't matter you like it or not

 

[striver44]

As a Strong Country, they can do what they think its right. Doesn't matter you like it or not

true,
just like this
nothing happens

USS Barry returns to the South China Sea

After conducting its fourth routine transit through the Taiwan Strait this year, USS Barry (DDG 52) returned to the South China Sea to conduct operations.

www.cpf.navy.mil

oh shit even Canada does this

This tinny boat is just sad.... I bet it will have trouble beating a WWII frigate...

it's compact enough to do FONOP in the Yangtze.

 

[Viva_Viet]

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When China landed on those islands, and their Navy Patrolling the waters (SCS).

Those nations still life in the jungle and killing each other.

Read more book, instead trolling and barking in here
View attachment 691324

Page 156 :
Naval forces of the Song State of the Southern Dynasties (420–479 CE) patrolled the Paracel and Spratly islands.
In the Tang dynasty (618–907 CE), the islands were placed under the administration and authority of the Qiongzhou Perfecture (now Hainan Province).

Quing chief Official in Hainan said : "Hainan is the Horizon corner ( last territory) of great Quing"

Google trans
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In 1895 and 1896, two merchant ships La Bellona (of Germany) and Imeji Maru (of Japan) sank at Hoang Sa ( Paracel islands). The Chinese Hainan Island fishermen often believe in pulling each other to "foul of", they used their boats to scavenge the shipwreck's goods, and return them to Hainan to resell.

The insurance companies of these two ships have come to the rescue of the Hainan Island government. The chief official of Hainan Island heard the presentation, raised his hand and pointed to the ground, and declared: "This is the" corner horizon of the Qing dynasty, we do not know, control and are not responsible! ( for robbing in Paracel islands) "

Bản đồ cổ xác định đảo Hải Nam là địa phận cuối TQ

"Nếu nói Hoàng Sa của Trung Quốc có lẽ phải lôi cổ mấy viên quan nằm dưới mồ trên đảo Hải Nam sống dậy mà chém đầu!"

www.google.com

Qing map

 

[Viet]

You don't think Gigantic China afraid of small ROC, right China even don't hesitate to kill Indian soldiers in Ladakh.
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China still have patience toward ROC.
Because basically, Chinese don't like to kill other Chinese.

That's why they are still waiting, and its a benefit for China too.
Because the longer they wait, China Military Superiority become much higher day by day toward ROC military.

China is a country that can build a 40,000 Tonnes LHD (Type 075) with only 6 month (keel laying to launching), and they plan to build another 8 in the next 4 years.
View attachment 691404
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Time is siding with China right now.
So why not Enjoy it a little bit



How can those immigrant from atlantic claim the islands in the middle of pacific?

As a Strong Country, they can do what they think its right. Doesn't matter you like it or not

By your logic Germany can claim Stalingrad because the Wehrmacht was there.
sure, chinese smugglers are everywhere. However you can’t claim other people’s properties because the people are primitive they don’t have guns.