Indonesia military suspends cooperation with Australia

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Seems like minor issue between officers

I don't really know who Australians have beef with they are mostly drinking in summer and watching cricket

 

[samsara]

West Papuan people is from Different Ethnic group, so you think West Papua is not part of Indonesia?

Indonesia gave up with Timor Leste, because War with Timor Leste freedom fighters from 1975-1999 (24 Years) aleady Drain our Economic and Financial Resource so much.
That's the Costly war for us.

It was all possible to let go that territory because the INA president at that time, Habibie, the dual-passport holder (also holding GER's one) practically "sold out" the East Timor for his own interests. Back then a huge deposit of oil or gas resource was already identified in that bordering zone with AUS. It's alleged that AUS instigated this secession with the blessing of its master for the benefits of more advantageous resource sharing deal and other geopolitical agendas.

Can one imagine that Canada does allow Quebec to do own referendum about secession limited to Quebec's own population? Or with more resemblance, will the UK ever allow the original inhabitants of Diego Garcia to vote for freedom by themselves? That's what happened with the E.Timor, instead of an INA's national referendum the Habibie regime allowed the East Timorese to merely vote themselves. And the rest is history.

Btw the new nation creations are the geopolitical trend sponsored by the NATO Clan (incl. The Five Eyes) within the last two or three decades, just check how many nations were broken up into smaller pieces.

 

[Viet]

No surprise how the way the Aussie play the game. But how the Indonesians react is a real surprise for everybody.

In any cases military cooperation between Australia and Indonesia is as important as between Belarus and Cambodia.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Australia expressed regret on Thursday and promised a thorough investigation of "insulting" teaching material found at a west Australian military base that led to Indonesia suspending defense ties between the often uneasy Asia-Pacific neighbors.

It's a bilateral incident between ID and AU so I have no comment.

P.S.: But from a national interests perspective, ID, not AU, is more important trade partner (both in terms of aggregate size and balance of payment) for CN in the long run. Moreover, though there are many existential differences/disputes between CN and ID, these are facts, but AU is a natural ally of CN's only enemy state, that's a whole new level of difference. I rank ID higher than AU in CN's diplomatic priority, and CN should act accordingly whenever situation deems necessary. Just my opinion, critics welcome my friend.

 

[Place Of Space]

For china, this could give them more chances to trengthen millitary cooperation with Indonesia and make more friends than foe in south east asia, i am thinking about joint patrol or naval excercise on timor gap

Holy shit, you two's relationship good or bad has nothing todo with China's decision and actions. We can beat you two together, for the extremely case, Australia is more far away and wont be front line.

 

[initial_d]

Holy shit, you two's relationship good or bad has nothing todo with China's decision and actions. Wean beat you two together, for the extremely case, Australia is more far away and wont be front line.

Bhahaha thank god you are not a decision maker, you make a lousy one, see what @shotguner51 has written above, he has far more senses than you and jlaw will ever be
Jlaw is a malaysian and you are singaporean who do not a PRC passport holder, it seem real chinese national are more clever than a cheerleaders like you

 

[Offshore]

Holy shit, you two's relationship good or bad has nothing todo with China's decision and actions. We can beat you two together, for the extremely case, Australia is more far away and wont be front line.

You got the point here.. both are weak.

 

[Place Of Space]

Bhahaha thank god you are not a decision maker, you make a lousy one, see what @shotguner51 has written above, he has far more senses than you and jlaw will ever be
Jlaw is a malaysian and you are singaporean who do not a PRC passport holder, it seem real chinese national are more clever than a cheerleaders like you

I am not decision maker, but I have my opinions and shared them on my social network apps.
This is not the thread you estimate other members' nationality. You feeling wrong, I am Chinese living in China, pure Han.

It's a bilateral incident between ID and AU so I have no comment.

P.S.: But from a national interests perspective, ID, not AU, is more important trade partner (both in terms of aggregate size and balance of payment) for CN in the long run. Moreover, though there are many existential differences/disputes between CN and ID, these are facts, but AU is a natural ally of CN's only enemy state, that's a whole new level of difference. I rank ID higher than AU in CN's diplomatic priority, and CN should act accordingly whenever situation deems necessary. Just my opinion, critics welcome my friend.

Do you remember the high speed railway project Java to Bandung we talked about last year?
You support it, I in the beginning opposed this investment.
Now can you check and see the project's progress? For a whole year, the Chinese company can't push the construction one inch forward.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Do you remember the high speed railway project Java to Bandung we talked about last year?
You support it, I in the beginning opposed this investment.
Now can you check and see the project's progress? For a whole year, the Chinese company can't push the construction one inch forward.

Well yes I remember our conversation my old friend, I am bullish about OBOR-ASEAN as a whole, Indonesia definitely included. My reason? Look at the current global credit-debt numbers between nations, and more importantly its development trend, you know what I mean my friend. Be patient though, OBOR will become new market, Indonesia will rise, it's gonna be a long run. Take this HSR as an example, land acquisition progress was only 60% by Sep 2016 (as per Sina.com, Ministry of Commerce), many other details like infra design (tracks, tunnels, bridges), geological survey, all these will take time.

http://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2016-09-27/doc-ifxwermp4011555.shtml

 

[UMNOPutra]

It's a bilateral incident between ID and AU so I have no comment.

P.S.: But from a national interests perspective, ID, not AU, is more important trade partner (both in terms of aggregate size and balance of payment) for CN in the long run. Moreover, though there are many existential differences/disputes between CN and ID, these are facts, but AU is a natural ally of CN's only enemy state, that's a whole new level of difference. I rank ID higher than AU in CN's diplomatic priority, and CN should act accordingly whenever situation deems necessary. Just my opinion, critics welcome my friend.

Love and Hate relationship .. Both countries know well that they need each other forever...