Indonesia finally make Rafale contract effective

[Indos]

France Defence Minister will visit Jakarta within this week, waiting for confirmation soon.

As I have stated many times, the acquisition of MRCA cannot exceed 1.1 billion USD as it is the figure given by our Planning Minister and Finance Minister. The order is just for 6 planes and will use foreign loan to finance it.

The planes most probably arrives in the next administration period ( 2025-2029)

 

[Indos]

The Dassault Aviation Rafale lands in Indonesia​

Michael Cabirol
08 Feb 2022, 17:15

Indonesia bought six Rafale. Waiting for better. Florence Parly's visit on Wednesday and Thursday could be an opportunity to complete the future Rafale fleet of the Indonesian Air Force.

Le Rafale de Dassault Aviation atterrit en Indonésie

L'Indonésie a acheté six Rafale. En attendant mieux. La visite mercredi et jeudi de Florence Parly pourrait être l'occasion de compléter la future flotte de Rafale de l'armée de l'air indonésienne.

www.latribune.fr

I dont expect other order than just 6 planes just like this writer wish. That is the total amount for 2020-2024 period, if any next order come out then it will be very likely happen in new administration, but I would say there would not be likely any repeat order before the all planes arrive and at that time KF 21/IFX inshaAllah has completed its development phase.

Pressure for the new administration to buy KF 21 will be greater at that period, not to mention our law that forbid buying defense equipment that can be produced in the country.

 

[Indos]

She will come Today, not sure which exact time she will arrive, could be Tonight or Tomorrow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1490998467585769472

 

[Indos]

Just compare Indonesia and UAE Rafale order : 6 planes vs 80 planes

 

[Indos]

The 6 Rafale planes are intended to fill fighter planes for our previous F 5 squadron. Those around 12 F 5 planes have all been grounded and currently the attack squadron has 3 SU 30 coming from other squadron in order to keep the squadron maintain their flying skills for fighters.

The TOT for Rafale deal will likely for the maintenance of the engine, last year Dassault came to PT Nusantara Turbin dan Propulsi (NTP) to visit engine MRO facility there

PT NTP is a subsidiary company of Indonesian Aerospace. Last year it also has taken the approval from Defense Ministry to treat our military planes engine. At the mean time, all maintenance of engine is conducted by Indonesian Air Force engineering division, that can do maintenance for F 16 and Su 27/30 engine. But I believe PT NTP is the one that is seek to do overhaul of the engine, Lockheed Martin representative has also visited the company last year.

Other Indonesian state owned company that can do plane engine MRO is PT GMF Aero Asia.

PT NTP get military certificate by Defense Ministry last year

Rafale team from France visited PT NTP last year

https://twitter.com/x/status/1371758327345127425

 

[Indos]

Contrary to many media have stated, particularly France media, Indonesia Rafale 2021 contract is still in LOI stage. French Minister coming to Indonesia, I believe, is to sign real contract which is intended for just 6 planes. Previous LOI is for 36 planes where both of our planning minister and finance minister dont support.

Our Planning Minister only approved for 1.6 billion USD for MRCA program for 2020-2024 period, later Finance Minister slashed it further into 1.1 billion USD. This MRCA program is for entire Jokowi administration second period. I have said this many times since last year.

 

[Foinikas]

So they finally decided it? Well done! Welcome to the Rafale family @Indos

Soon the Indians will start making videos on youtube saying you want to buy Brahmos

 

[Indos]

So they finally decided it? Well done! Welcome to the Rafale family @Indos

Soon the Indians will start making videos on youtube saying you want to buy Brahmos

Thank You

Now we have F 16 block 52, Su 30/27, and soon Rafale F3. This will be interesting to make many practice simulation between those fighters.

For Rafale, I hope that nuclear capable sofware can be activated by Indonesian Air Force, in case we can buy some nuclear warhead from Pakistan later in the future if any extraordinary happen @Sainthood 101

Together with our 2 Airbus with air refulling system to make us capable launching long range attack

 

[Indos]

This is an old photo when the three planes visited Indonesia, I think it is around 2017 when we want to decide to buy SU 35 or others (later SU 35 win, but CATSAA make the contract never been activated).

Now in the beginning of 2022 this old photo has very close to become a reality, 2 A400 M planes has just been bought late last year with option to buy 4 more, and now 6 Rafales order contract will likely be signed Tomorrow.

 

[Indos]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1491107292770889730

 

[Indos]

Prabowo Signs Contract, Indonesia Legally Acquires 6 Dassault Rafale Jets

Kompas.com - 10/02/2022, 13:27 WIB

Kemenhan Teken Kontrak, Indonesia Sah Akuisisi 6 Jet Dassault Rafale

Secara keseluruhan, Indonesia berencana memboyong 42 jet Rafale. Sisa 36 unit Rafale sisanya akan segera menyusul dalam waktu dekat.

nasional.kompas.com

 

[Indos]

14 FEBRUARY 2022

Indonesia to receive six Rafales by 2026​

by Alessandra Giovanzanti

The Indonesian Air Force will receive the first batch of six Rafale fighter aircraft by 2026. (Dassault Aviation)

The Indonesian Air Force (Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Udara: TNI-AU) will receive the first batch of six Dassault Rafale multirole combat aircraft by 2026.

On 11 February a spokesperson of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense told local media that the first six Rafales on order will be delivered within 56 months from contract signature.

This comes after Indonesia signed an acquisition contract for 42 Rafales on 10 February. On this occasion, Indonesia's Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto noted that only the first batch of six aircraft was under contract and that contracts will follow for the additional 36 aircraft on order.

Janes understands that funding for the first six airframes will come from a foreign-sourced loan, which will have to be approved by the Indonesian Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of National Development Planning (Kementerian Perencanaan Pembangunan Nasional: BAPPENAS). Follow-on batches of the aircraft will likley follow the same path and be funded by foreign lenders, with contracts becoming effective through advanced payments.

The disclosed delivery timeline would be consistent with an order for Rafale F4-standard aircraft, which will be available after 2025. Furthermore, the aircraft manufacturer said in the contract announcement that the TNI-AU will receive “42 latest-generation Rafale aircraft”, which suggests these will be F4-standard aircraft. At this stage, the exact configuration of the Indonesian Rafales has not been confirmed by either Dassault or Indonesian authorities.

If confirmed, Indonesia will be the second export country for the Rafale F4 after the UAE inked a deal for 80 such fighters in December 2021. Indonesia is also the second Rafale customer in the region, joining India that operates about 30 Rafales.

Indonesia to receive six Rafales by 2026

The Indonesian Air Force (Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Udara: TNI-AU) will receive the first batch of six Dassault Rafale multirole combat aircraft by 2026.

www.janes.com

 

[Indos]

From the Indonesian media

Actually the contract hasnt been activated by Finance Minister. It said it needs 3-6 months for the activation. So the February event is not the activation, but the signing ceremony for 6 Rafale fighters contract with subsequent 36 orders as plan (MOU) but not yet executed in the form of contract if we gather from Indonesian source ( Defense Minister and Defense Minister spoke person direct statement and explanation)

And Jane Defense reporter is false, 56 months is not from contract signature, but from contract activation by the time Indonesian government gives the down payment for the foreign loan.

The contract is not just for 6 planes, but associated equipment and others which havent been detailed and published to the media/public.

 

[Song Hong]

Singapore will still be stuck with F16 -- unfortunately. Singapore airforce today will never buy anything other than made in USA never mind how bad value it is.

On the other hand J10C is a more capable bird.

RSAF to fly F-16 fighter jets for 'at least' another decade, following F-35 developments 'closely': Air force chief

SINGAPORE: The Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) will continue flying its F-16C/D fighter jets for "at least another decade", Chief of Air Force Major-General (MG) Kelvin Khong said on Monday (Feb 14), adding that the RSAF has been following the developments of F-35 stealth fighter jets...

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[Indos]

Talking about Singapore, this is what the civilian folks think about the order although they dont know the actual matter like F 15 EX is actually still a wish list (Prabowo wishlist) until now and the actual order for Rafale is just 6 planes

[Indon very rich] Indonesia to buy US, French warplanes - USD22billion

Big country is really chins woo lui. 36 F15 + others goodies at usd14billion - even at 200million a piece, F35B is cheap! 42 Rafael at usd8.1billion - 190+million a piece! who is the biggest water fish in ASEAN? :s13...

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