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interesting to see it cheaper in other country but isn't (much) cheaper than the HSR the Japanese proposed

also good to know that Chinese HSR is favourited internationally. if Japan lose the HSR bid in indonesia, it'll be more than just a BIG PUNCH for them (and also to our foreign relationship with Japan)

Jokowi has yet to make it official but to break it gently, very interesting news has reached us.

Indonesia favouring China over Japan in railway bid

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A passenger train crosses the Chikubang bridge as it travels from the city of Bandung to Jakarta near Padalarang, West Java, Indonesia. Japan's prime minister has sent an envoy to Indonesia to offer a sweeter deal to build a high-speed railway, highlighting the importance of the multi-billion dollar project that China also wants to win. The two Asian giants are in a neck-and-neck contest to win a contract to build Indonesia's first high-speed rail, between the capital Jakarta and textile hub Bandung. – Reuters pic, August 31, 2015.

Indonesia is leaning towards China over Japan in an aggressive bidding battle to build the Southeast Asian nation's first high-speed railway, two government sources involved in making the decision said.

The two Asian giants have both sent envoys to lobby Indonesian officials over the past two weeks, each sweetening the terms of their bid for the contract worth about US$5 billion (RM21 billion).

Analysts believe that whoever wins will likely become the front runner for other high-speed rail projects coming up in Asia over the coming years, including one linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

A cabinet-level committee led by chief economic minister Darmin Nasution will meet on Monday to make its recommendation on which country should build the rail line between the capital, Jakarta, and textile hub of Bandung.

President Joko Widodo is expected to announce the winner within days.

"Indonesia is leaning towards China because their proposal is less financially burdensome on the Indonesian government and because the issue of safety has been adequately addressed," a government source told Reuters.

A second government source said Indonesia wanted to strike a balance between the two powers in handing out high-profile infrastructure projects. Japan already holds contracts to build Jakarta's mass rapid transit system and the biggest coal-fired power plant in the region.

Both sources declined to be identified due to the diplomatic sensitivity of the issue for Jakarta and the economic stakes. Japan is Indonesia's second-largest investor, while China is its top trading partner.

"We have two partners and it will be good if we can maintain both of them. We have to be smart when taking this decision," Luky Eko Wuryanto, Indonesia's deputy minister of infrastructure and regional development, told Reuters last Friday after meeting China's ambassador to Indonesia.

The 150-km rail line should to cut the journey between Jakarta and Bandung to 35 minutes, from about three hours. Trains are expected to reach speeds of more than 300 km per hour.

Indonesia hopes to extend the line later to connect Jakarta with the city of Surabaya.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last week sent an envoy to offer a more attractive deal ahead of Monday's deadline, which was Japan's second revision in two weeks.

Japan's late manoeuvring brought protests from China, which said it was unfair Japan had been allowed to submit a new offer so close to the deadline, a minister said.

China had sweetened its offer earlier in August.

Japan initially believed it had won the contract after completing a feasibility study, but in March Widodo invited other offers in order to get the best deal.

China is offering a 73.92 trillion rupiah (RM22.1 billion) loan with a 50-year tenure and an interest rate of 2% in US dollars.

Japan is offering a 60.14 trillion rupiah repayable over 40 years at an interest rate of 0.1% in yen, with a 10-year grace period. Its latest proposal also offers Japanese guarantees on financing and increases the percentage of local content. – Reuters, August 31, 2015.

Indonesia favouring China over Japan in railway bid - The Malaysian Insider
 
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Jokowi has yet to make it official but to break it gently, very interesting news has reached us.

Indonesia favouring China over Japan in railway bid

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A passenger train crosses the Chikubang bridge as it travels from the city of Bandung to Jakarta near Padalarang, West Java, Indonesia. Japan's prime minister has sent an envoy to Indonesia to offer a sweeter deal to build a high-speed railway, highlighting the importance of the multi-billion dollar project that China also wants to win. The two Asian giants are in a neck-and-neck contest to win a contract to build Indonesia's first high-speed rail, between the capital Jakarta and textile hub Bandung. – Reuters pic, August 31, 2015.

Indonesia is leaning towards China over Japan in an aggressive bidding battle to build the Southeast Asian nation's first high-speed railway, two government sources involved in making the decision said.

The two Asian giants have both sent envoys to lobby Indonesian officials over the past two weeks, each sweetening the terms of their bid for the contract worth about US$5 billion (RM21 billion).

Analysts believe that whoever wins will likely become the front runner for other high-speed rail projects coming up in Asia over the coming years, including one linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

A cabinet-level committee led by chief economic minister Darmin Nasution will meet on Monday to make its recommendation on which country should build the rail line between the capital, Jakarta, and textile hub of Bandung.

President Joko Widodo is expected to announce the winner within days.

"Indonesia is leaning towards China because their proposal is less financially burdensome on the Indonesian government and because the issue of safety has been adequately addressed," a government source told Reuters.

A second government source said Indonesia wanted to strike a balance between the two powers in handing out high-profile infrastructure projects. Japan already holds contracts to build Jakarta's mass rapid transit system and the biggest coal-fired power plant in the region.

Both sources declined to be identified due to the diplomatic sensitivity of the issue for Jakarta and the economic stakes. Japan is Indonesia's second-largest investor, while China is its top trading partner.

"We have two partners and it will be good if we can maintain both of them. We have to be smart when taking this decision," Luky Eko Wuryanto, Indonesia's deputy minister of infrastructure and regional development, told Reuters last Friday after meeting China's ambassador to Indonesia.

The 150-km rail line should to cut the journey between Jakarta and Bandung to 35 minutes, from about three hours. Trains are expected to reach speeds of more than 300 km per hour.

Indonesia hopes to extend the line later to connect Jakarta with the city of Surabaya.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last week sent an envoy to offer a more attractive deal ahead of Monday's deadline, which was Japan's second revision in two weeks.

Japan's late manoeuvring brought protests from China, which said it was unfair Japan had been allowed to submit a new offer so close to the deadline, a minister said.

China had sweetened its offer earlier in August.

Japan initially believed it had won the contract after completing a feasibility study, but in March Widodo invited other offers in order to get the best deal.

China is offering a 73.92 trillion rupiah (RM22.1 billion) loan with a 50-year tenure and an interest rate of 2% in US dollars.

Japan is offering a 60.14 trillion rupiah repayable over 40 years at an interest rate of 0.1% in yen, with a 10-year grace period. Its latest proposal also offers Japanese guarantees on financing and increases the percentage of local content. – Reuters, August 31, 2015.

Indonesia favouring China over Japan in railway bid - The Malaysian Insider

the winner of the bid will be announced either Today or Tomorrow though. all the wishes and lucks to both China and Japan.
 
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Indonesian president are known to pro Chinese. Poor Japan, the technology they have been developing for years with billion $$$ R&D spent was stolen now they are facing their clone and lost for it because of competitor's low cost.
 
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Indonesian president are known to pro Chinese. Poor Japan, the technology they have been developing for years with billion $$$ R&D spent was stolen now they are facing their clone and lost for it because of competitor's low cost.

Indonesian president is pro Chinese, yes. But also pro Japan, pro America, Rusia, and Europe. Above all, he is pro Indonesia.
 
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the winner of the bid will be announced either Today or Tomorrow though. all the wishes and lucks to both China and Japan.

We're kept in suspense for a bit longer...

Indonesia delays announcing winner of high speed rail bid

JAKARTA: Indonesia has delayed the announcement of the winner of a hotly contested race between China and Japan to build the first high-speed railway in southeast Asia’s biggest economy, a senior government official said on Wednesday.

The two Asian giants have repeatedly sent high-level envoys to lobby the Indonesian government in what has been an unprecedented battle to build the 150-km (93-mile) link between the capital, Jakarta, and the textile hub of Bandung.

President Joko Widodo had previously been expected to announce a winner as early as this week.

But Cabinet Secretary Pramono Anung said Widodo planned to make a decision based on a review of the two countries’ proposals by an independent consultancy and a team of cabinet ministers.

“The president has extended the time for the review until September 7, so that the process is fairer,” Anung told reporters, adding that the announcement of the winner could come any time after that.

Two government sources have said Indonesia is leaning toward awarding the multi-billion dollar contract to China because its proposal is seen as “less financially burdensome.”

Indonesia’s state enterprises minister said that if China were to win the contract, state-owned companies PT Wijaya Karya, PT Jasa Marga, PT Kereta Api, and PT Perkebunan Nusantara VIII would be involved in the consortium with China.

“There is truly no burden on the government,” the minister, Rini Soemarno, told reporters on Wednesday.

Japan competes with Singapore as Indonesia’s top investor in Indonesia, while China is the Southeast Asian nation’s biggest trading partner. -REUTERS

Indonesia delays announcing winner of high speed rail bid | New Straits Times | Malaysia General Business Sports and Lifestyle News
 
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We're kept in suspense for a bit longer...

Indonesia delays announcing winner of high speed rail bid

JAKARTA: Indonesia has delayed the announcement of the winner of a hotly contested race between China and Japan to build the first high-speed railway in southeast Asia’s biggest economy, a senior government official said on Wednesday.

The two Asian giants have repeatedly sent high-level envoys to lobby the Indonesian government in what has been an unprecedented battle to build the 150-km (93-mile) link between the capital, Jakarta, and the textile hub of Bandung.

President Joko Widodo had previously been expected to announce a winner as early as this week.

But Cabinet Secretary Pramono Anung said Widodo planned to make a decision based on a review of the two countries’ proposals by an independent consultancy and a team of cabinet ministers.

“The president has extended the time for the review until September 7, so that the process is fairer,” Anung told reporters, adding that the announcement of the winner could come any time after that.

Two government sources have said Indonesia is leaning toward awarding the multi-billion dollar contract to China because its proposal is seen as “less financially burdensome.”

Indonesia’s state enterprises minister said that if China were to win the contract, state-owned companies PT Wijaya Karya, PT Jasa Marga, PT Kereta Api, and PT Perkebunan Nusantara VIII would be involved in the consortium with China.

“There is truly no burden on the government,” the minister, Rini Soemarno, told reporters on Wednesday.

Japan competes with Singapore as Indonesia’s top investor in Indonesia, while China is the Southeast Asian nation’s biggest trading partner. -REUTERS

Indonesia delays announcing winner of high speed rail bid | New Straits Times | Malaysia General Business Sports and Lifestyle News

aww crabs.. we had to wait for more..

extending the announcement for one week is so half assed of the govt. well, at least it's not cancelled though. our patience is being tested.
 
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Indonesia must have been threatened to dump the Chinese trains and choose the expensive Japanese one. US is probably bullying the Indonesian leaders on behalf of Japan.
 
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Indonesia must have been threatened to dump the Chinese trains and choose the expensive Japanese one. US is probably bullying the Indonesian leaders on behalf of Japan.

if that's the case then China would automatically wins the bid. we give no shit to US threats, period.
 
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