Indonesia Defence Forum

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[Nike]

Partisipasi Indonesia Pada Sofex 2016Panglima Tentara Kuwait Letnan Jenderal Mohammad Khaled Al-Kheder (kedua kanan) berbincang dengan Dubes RI untuk Yordania Teguh Wardoyo (kanan) dan Direktur Komersial PT Pindad Widjayanto (ketiga kiri) saat acara The Special Operations Forces Exhibition and Conference (SOFEX) 2016 di Amman, Yordania, Selasa (10/5/2016). Industri strategis Indonesia ikut berpartisipasi diwakili oleh PT Pindad. (ANTARA FOTO/Nico Adam/16)

Partisipasi Indonesia Pada Sofex 2016Kepala Kepolisian Kuwait mencoba senjata Sniper disaksikan delegasi militer Kuwait saat acara The Special Operations Forces Exhibition and Conference (SOFEX) 2016 di Amman, Yordania, Selasa (10/5/2016). Industri strategis Indonesia ikut berpartisipasi diwakili oleh PT Pindad. (ANTARA FOTO/Nico Adam/foc/16)

Partisipasi Indonesia Pada Sofex 2016Pangeran Yordania Faisal bin Hussein (kedua kiri) bersalaman dengan Direktur Komersial PT Pindad Widjayanto (kiri) disaksikan Dubes RI untuk Yordania Teguh Wardoyo (tengah) saat acara The Special Operations Forces Exhibition and Conference (SOFEX) 2016 di Amman, Yordania, Selasa (10/5/2016). Industri strategis Indonesia ikut berpartisipasi diwakili oleh PT Pindad. (ANTARA FOTO/Nico Adam/16)

 

[Star Bugs]

Boeing MSA for KKP? if KKP bought this one, it will be a logical choice for Air Force to acquire P-8 Poseidon for their next generation patrol aircraft

I doubt we will acquire BMSA. CN235MSA will put up a fight. It's turbofan vs turboprop but PTDI will say that turbofan engine is an overkill for fishery missions. Other sensor suites and radars can be adopted to CN235MSA to compete with BMSA's equipments. But we'll see. This could be an exciting battle. Lobbyist from both sides are working very hard now.

As for P-8 Poseidon, it is a MUST! BMSA or no BMSA, P-8 is a must for us. PTDI can not outwit P-8 with any of their products because P-8 have weapons bay to attack enemy ships or subs and I think, that's what we need.

Indonesia To Buy Airbus A400M Military Transport, Eight Su-35 Fighter Aircraft

I really hope we do not acquire A400M. I really hope it's just a lip service.There are sooooooo many arguments against A400M operating in Indonesia. For example, no airport runways in Papua can bear the weight of that loaded aircraft, except maybe in Biak Airport where it can handle B747-400.

Acquiring A400M is not an urgency and the Russians are preparing IL-214. We should wait and let more products enter the competition to give us more choices.

 

[Indos]

As for P-8 Poseidon, it is a MUST! BMSA or no BMSA, P-8 is a must for us. PTDI can not outwit P-8 with any of their products because P-8 have weapons bay to attack enemy ships or subs and I think, that's what we need.

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CN 235 MPA can attack subs and ships as well (for anti subs role needs some upgrade)

 

[Nike]

CN 235 MPA can attack subs and ships as well (for anti subs role needs some upgrade)

in ur dream, if u compared CN-235 with Poseidon

Analysts Welcome Indonesia’s Plans to Triple Defense Budget

Jakarta. The new government’s plan to bolster the country’s defense spending to almost triple its current budget by 2019 has received support from international relations analysts and military experts in Indonesia.

Luhut Panjaitan, an adviser to President Joko Widodo, said on Tuesday that Indonesia’s defense spending was targeted to increase to 1.5 percent of gross domestic product over the next five years in order to protect the country’s sovereignty and national interests.

“We link to economic growth of about 7 percent … so by 2019, the national defense budget can increase to around $20 billion per annum,” Luhut said, as reported by Reuters on Wednesday.

Muradi, a defense and military analyst at Padjadjaran University in Bandung, West Java, agreed with the country’s plan to set such an impressive target for its defense and security sector, saying that “our defense sector is already 10 years behind neighboring countries such as Singapore and Malaysia.”

According to Muradi, Indonesia’s defense sector spending — which includes the purchase of primary weaponry defense systems, the cost of security monitoring and also stipends for military personnel — should make up at least 2 percent of the country’s GDP to be considered adequate.

This year, Indonesia has allocated Rp 83 trillion ($6.6 billion), which represents 0.8 percent of the total state budget, Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu said early last month.

“As of now, I believe there’s no other way to modernize our weaponry except for increasing the defense sector budget,” Muradi told the Jakarta Globe on Wednesday.

“We can’t let other parties help us [with providing weaponry] because that way they are likely to dictate to us [on how to manage the country’s defense and security].”

Meanwhile, a nation’s moves to increase military and defense sector spending often set off alarms in neighboring countries — in Indonesia’s case, it includes Australia and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean). They may see such a policy as a threat.

Deterrent effect

But international relations experts believe Indonesia’s move to beef up its security, by setting aside more money for defense in its state budget, is essentially based on its need to improve its defensive capabilities and security systems in order deter any potential aggressors.

“By beefing up security in its territory, Indonesia is sending a warning to other countries that may possibly be planning acts of aggression against it. It shows that they can no longer do whatever they like and think that we wouldn’t be able take decisive action against them,” Muradi said.

According to Muradi, Indonesia records some 200 violations to its airspace per year.

“For instance, just to challenge the most recent violation by three foreign aircraft, we spent some Rp 150 million, while we only fined them some Rp 60 million,” Muradi said.

“The increase is really needed, not because Indonesia is worried that there would be attacks from other countries, but more due to its internal interests,” Hikmahanto Juwana, an international relations expert from the University of Indonesia, told the Jakarta Globe on Wednesday.

Hikmahanto says that the increase in defense spending is needed: to protect the country from illegal actions by private groups; to be a peace broker in any disputes occurring in the region; and also to boost Indonesia’s participation in United Nations peace-keeping efforts.

“Indonesia also requires adequate weapons systems to protect its territory as it has the second-longest coastline in the world, which eventually is in line with Jokowi’s agenda to be a Global Maritime Fulcrum,” said Djayadi Hanan, an academic in Paramadina University’s department of international relations.

Muradi further pointed out that increased defense spending was also needed to improve the welfare of personnel in the country’s armed forces aside from buying more weaponry.

To avoid any misinterpretations by its neighbors, foreign policy experts also say that Indonesia would have to explain and clearly outline the reasons behind its plan to increase its defense spending.

“Increasing the military budget could make other countries worry and if it’s not explained in a very clear and diplomatic way, it could be dangerous,” Hikmahanto said.

“Therefore, Indonesia must be able to justify clearly in its white paper on defense its reasons for the need to increase the spending.

“[For other countries] the move should not mean that Indonesia is planning to start a war or any aggressive actions, but that it’s basically meant to fulfill minimum essential force requirements,” Djayadi says.

“Indonesia’s move to strengthen its defense sector could boost stability in the Southeast Asia region,” Djayadi adds.

“Furthermore, Indonesia could also then start taking part in maintaining security in the region that will eventually improve defense and security for all countries.”

Hikmahanto pointed out that Indonesia would also need to show that its foreign policy had shifted to “all nations are friends until Indonesia’s sovereignty is degraded and national interest is jeopardized.”

http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/analysts-welcome-governments-plans-triple-defense-budget/

 

[Indos]

@madokafc

Of course but too expensive and we have many other priority to meet

CN 235 MPA ASW is our best option at the moment

 

[Nike]

@madokafc

Of course but too expensive and we have many other priority to meet

CN 235 MPA ASW is our best option at the moment

not the best, because they are very mediocre

 

[MacanJawa]

yo guys any credible news about air defence aquisition?

 

[Indos]

not the best, because they are very mediocre

With anti aircraft missile that modern sub now have, having Poseidon is too risky

Better wait for UAV with ASW capabilities that is under research currently by BAE system

 

[Nike]

With anti aircraft missile that modern sub now have, having Poseidon is too risky

Better wait for UAV with ASW capabilities that is under research currently by BAE system

LoL, Poseidon can flying at high altitude with no modern AA missile on Submarine in which mostly Manpads type can get it. Not to mention countermeasure system the poseidon had for flying at hostile situations. And the sys fla system in this picture is nowhere exist in this world as today

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Pindad SS2-V7 Subsonic rifle

Pindad ready to mass-produce its quietest assault rifle
State-owned weapons manufacturer PT Pindad is gearing up to mass-produce its latest assault rifle, the SS2 V5 Silencer (or SS2 V7), which the company says is the quietest rifle ever produced in Indonesia and designed for silent operations.

The SS2 Subsonic rifle caliber 5.56 millimeter was unveiled to the press on Wednesday, along with the G2 Elite caliber 9 millimeter and the SPR 2 caliber 12.7 millimeter. It is claimed to effectively hit targets at a maximum range of two kilometers.

Pindad president director Silmy Karim said the SS2 Subsonic rifle was a modified version of Pindad’s best-selling rifle SS2. He claimed the rifle was quieter than the MP-7 manufactured by Heckler & Koch Germany.

“When I first tried it, it even surprised me. I have tried the MP-7, and this one is quieter. I can only hear a short hiss. This subsonic rifle is specifically designed for ambush and silent assaults in special military operations,” he said, as quoted by tribunnews.com on Wednesday.

Pindad corporate secretary Bayu A Fiantono said the superiority of the SS2 riffle assault had been proven in the last two years at international events, such as the Brunei International Skill-at-Arms Meet, the Australian Army Skills at Arms Meeting ( AASAM ) and the ASEAN Armies Rifle Meet.

“Pindad is ready to commence mass production of the SS2 Subsonic. However, we need to wait for a purchase contract from the Indonesian Army ( TNI ) and National Police as the main buyers,” he said.

Silmy highlighted that Pindad engineers were obliged to keep innovating in weaponry design and manufacturing. Starting in 2016, the company eyes to create at least one new weapon variant every three months.

The company is also working on a new combat vessel. Equipped with a turret tank, the armored vehicle is set to be displayed at the Indo Defense exhibition in late 2016. “The boat can run at a maximum speed of 40 knots. It is the first [of its kind] in the world,” Silmy said.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...-mass-produce-its-quietest-assault-rifle.html

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

http://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasiona...at-buatan-pindad-akan-dipamerkan-akhir-tahun/
Produsen senjata Indonesia, PT Pindad (Persero), akan meluncurkan tank boat dengan turet berkaliber 105 milimeter atau sekelas tank darat.

“Bisa mengarungi laut level empat (dengan kedalaman lebih dari 2.000 meter). Dengan kecepatan 40 knot, ini cepat,” kata Direktur Utama PT Pindad, Silmy Karim, di markas Divisi Munisi PT Pindad, Turen, Malang, Jawa Timur.

Tank boat produksi Pindad bakal dipamerkan di Indo Defence Expo 2016, Jakarta, 2-5 November. Untuk memajang tank boat itu, Pindad akan mengambil lahan seluas 200 meter di Indo Defence Expo.

“Kami ingin meyakinkan jika produk dalam negeri ini berkualitas. Saya tidak mau bilang produksi dalam negeri itu lebih murah, tapi jelas membeli produk dalam negeri membuat pabrik-pabrik kita bergerak, dan uang tidak lari ke luar,” ujar Silmy.

Ia mengatakan, Pindad telah mengembangkan tank boat sejak awal 2015 dengan pembiayaan Kementerian Pertahanan. Saat ini tank boat Pindad tengah diuji model di Pulau Tasmania, Australia.

“Pengembangan dari awal 2015, disetujui Menhan akhir 2015 atau awal 2016 jika tidak salah,” ujar Silmy.

Meski belum resmi meluncurkan tank boat, Pindad mengatakan telah menerima surat dari beberapa negara yang meminati produk itu.

“Banyak negara yang minat, tapi tidak bisa saya sebut. Banyak yang sudah tanda tangan kontrak pun tidak mau diumumkan. Sebab ini jual senjata, bukan mi instan,” kata Silmy.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Tank Boat, di zoom dikit ya bro

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Tank Boat, di zoom dikit ya bro
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It woud still be 3 party project (Pindad, Lundin and CMI Belgium) but now it will be recognized as Pindad's product and Pindad will have the right to market the vessel.
More like a 'compensation' project for Lundin because of the cancellation of Klewang Project.

 

[Indos]

It woud still be 3 party project (Pindad, Lundin and CMI Belgium) but now it will be recognized as Pindad's product and Pindad will have the right to market the vessel.
More like a 'compensation' project for Lundin because of the cancellation of Klewang Project.

I think both PINDAD & Lundin will try their best to market this product to their potential customer. Remember Klewang, both Lundin and BAE system were trying to market this vessels at many defense expo. My slight concern is, why they have to conduct the test in Tasmania, Australia?

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SOFEX 2016
Indonesian export drive [SOFEX16D3]
Christopher F Foss
12 May 2016

With the rapid expansion of the Indonesian defence industrial base (Hall 3, Stand A302), especially in the key area of equipment for land forces, Indonesia has now started to try to export some of its equipment.

This not only brings in valuable foreign currency but also helps to keep the local defence industrial base alive and retain highly skilled workers.

In addition to manufacturing a wide range of small arms and ammunition, Indonesian company Pindad is now expanding its range of wheeled armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs).

Large numbers of the Anoa- 2 (6x6) armoured personnel carrier (APC) have been built for Indonesia and it is already being offered on the export market.

Pindad’s latest vehicle is the Badak (6x6) direct fire support vehicle, which has a different layout and is fitted with a CMI Defence two-person turret armed with a 90mm gun and a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, with a similar weapon being mounted on the roof.

At the lighter end of the scale is the Komodo (4x4), which can be used as a reconnaissance vehicle, with a crew of four, or with a slightly longer, protected body as a troop carrier with a crew of two and carrying 10 dismounts.

On the naval front, PT Lundin is marketing the X18 tank boat, a foil-assisted catamaran with a top speed of 40kts.

http://www.janes.com/article/60264/indonesian-export-drive-sofex16d3

PS: Edited, we need to secure some secrecy.........