Indonesia Defence Forum

[baukiki88]

Modernized by Indonesian company.

RDU - Avionics and Information Technology

Solutionhttp://www.infoglobal.co.id/en/avionics-en/hudmon.html

Infoglobal, this company will also participate in our IFX version

Can we upgrade it to BVR capable? This hawk still looks good. Thats why I prefer european made products. It has very good quality and can last longer.

 

[Nike]

Can we upgrade it to BVR capable? This hawk still looks good. Thats why I prefer european made products. It has very good quality and can last longer.

not worth with the cost and you had dismal fighter in which basically it just a converted advance trainer

 

[baukiki88]

Air Platforms
France promotes Rafale to meet Indonesia's fighter requirement
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
23 March 2015
France is promoting its Dassault Rafale fighter jet to the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU) in a bid to meet the service's requirement to replace its ageing fleet of Northrop F-5E Tiger II aircraft.

The TNI-AU said in a statement that two Rafales - one single-seat and one twin-seat aircraft - landed at the Halim Perdanakusuma Air Force Base in east Jakarta on 23 March to provide two days of "presentations and demonstrations" about the characteristics of the aircraft to the TNI-AU and Indonesian government officials.

The TNI-AU said the visit of the Rafales, which are en route to France from the LIMA 2015 exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia, is being facilitated by state-owned aerospace company PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI).


Hope someone can go to Halim and get some Photos and post it here. and of course most importantly, the 3 new squadrons are real and realized before 2018.

Three Air Force fighter pilot trying C01 French RafaleTuesday, March 24, 2015 20:55 pm |

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Three Air Force fighter pilot trying skill and performance multirole fighter artificial French Dassault Aviation, Rafale C01, in the air heading south Jakarta, Tuesday.The presence of two units C01 Rafale B (seat tandem / double seater) was to provide an alternative source of procurement of substitute candidate F-5E / F Tiger II in the Air Squadron 14, which is derived from the '80s decade. Two C01 Rafale B and the Airbus A400M transport aircraft landed at the Main Air Base Halim Air Force, Jakarta, yesterday (23/3).

There are several manufacturers who were pitted strategy to finalize the offer to Indonesia, namely JAS39 Gripen (SAAB AB / Sweden), Eurofighter Typhoon (Eurofighter / consortium of Western Europe), F-16 Fighting Falcon Block 60 (Boeing / USA), and Sukhoi Su -35 Flanker-Berkut (Russian).Of all the alternatives, only two are single-engine, namely JAS39 Gripen and F-16 Fighting Falcon Block 60 as well as the three brands and types that use delta wing canard wing collaborated with before (JAS39 Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon and Rafale C01).In terms of physical dimensions, the Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-Berkut most bongsor while JAS39 Gripen most compact yet has the ability to lift maximum load ratio at most.Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-Berkut is also a lot of burning fuel when the air while JAS39 Gripen most efficient in this case without reducing the performance and sophistication.

In ASEAN has been no operator Rafale C01 made in several variants, namely C01 Rafale A, B Rafale C01, and C01 Rafale M which is dedicated to the placement on the carrier.India is the largest Rafale C01 potential operators in Asia, having reached an agreement to buy 178 units of Dassault Aviation, a year ago, with 128 units made in India.Until now, an open tender on procurement of the F-5E replacement candidate / F Tiger II that has not been announced officially. Rafale C01 previously never mentioned until finally they present after appearing in the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace 2015, in Malaysia.On the occasion of flight demonstration in Jakarta this time, three Air Force fighter pilot, who sat in the second seat Rafale C01 was Maj Airmen M Yunus (Air Squadron 14), Major Harris and Major Airmen Airmen Agus Dwi (Air Squadron 15).Both air squadron was based at the Main Air Base Iswayudi, Madiun, East Java.During the demonstration flight for less than an hour to fly it, Jonah, Haris, and Dwi given the opportunity to try flying advanced aircraft with some maneuvering, to feel the permissibility of C01 Rafale B in the "look" and "lock" the target in the air.That way, they can feel, know and test the combat capabilities directly as a comparison with the Air Force combat aircraft today.
Main Air Base Commander Halim Air Force, Air commodore TNI Sri Pulung, along with overall witnessed the demonstration flight of the apron Operations Center (Base Ops) air base.Rafale B C01 aerial demonstrations carried out in three sorties, with a time of about 45 minutes each sortie. These they flew from the air base runway heading south over the Pelabuhan Ratu, West Java, and and return to the Main Air Base Halim Air Force.Editor: Ruslan Burhani

 

[Indos]

Can we upgrade it to BVR capable? This hawk still looks good. Thats why I prefer european made products. It has very good quality and can last longer.

Not upgraded by Indonesian company of course, it is beyond our current capabilities. The Hawk is a subsonic plane, the attack version is only effective for bombing and support the ground troops. The sidewinder attached on the attack version is more about self defense than to gain any air superiority situation over 4 generation fighters.

It is our F 16 A/B that should be upgraded instead. But I hope those planes can be our avionics companies experiment in the future instead of giving the project into a western ones. I hope we can up grade them in here with the help of US or British company (BAE System),

It seems that you are undergoing research about Rafale fighters now .........Please create some paragraph over the article, it is too difficult to read

 

[pr1v4t33r]

PINDAD Workshop - Showing work on AMX VCI, AMX 13 light tank & SBS light tracked IFV

 

[baukiki88]

PINDAD Workshop - Showing work on AMX VCI, AMX 13 light tank & SBS light tracked IFV View attachment 207095

Do you have sukhoi foto for ts2701, 2702, 3001,3002. Recent one. I mean less than 3 yrs old

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Do you have sukhoi foto for ts2701, 2702, 3001,3002. Recent one. I mean less than 3 yrs old

Negative comrade, don't have.

 

[Indos]

Check this out, conversation among Indian Fan Boys about Su 35 at PDF ( and there are Rafale also being discussed there):

Russia Su-35 is officially on offer to India.

 

[Nike]

@Gabriel92

according to this sites, it's true if Indonesian Army want to made a repetitive order for CAESAR, so it was almost confirmed

ARCinc.ID - Meriam Nexter LG1 Mk III, calon andalan Para Ranger

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Airbus A400 at Halim AFB
Photo credit : Rofiekaw

 

[Nike]

 

[Nike]

credit to gombal jaya and original uploader

Indonesian CN-295 production assembly at local facilities of PT DI

 

[bobsm]

Indonesia's president says China has no legal claim to South China Sea: newspaper

Indonesian President Joko Widodo says China's claims to the majority of the South China Sea have "no legal foundation in international law," Japan's Yomiuri newspaper reported.

Jokowi distances himself from South China Sea comments

Mr Widodo said he was referring only to the nine-dash line that Beijing had marked and not to the South China Sea in general, dismissing any indication that he was opposing Beijing.

The President also said Indonesia, as part of the Association of South-east Asian Nations, remains committed to the proposed Code of Conduct being negotiated with Beijing that is aimed at de-escalating tensions in the South China Sea.

“If it is necessary, we are also ready to be a good mediator, that is what I was trying to say,” Mr Widodo said.

Foreign Affairs Minister Retno Marsudi explained that Mr Widodo’s statement about Beijing’s legal claims on territories within the nine-dash line was merely an expression of his desire to finally end the South China Sea dispute. “As the President has said,

Indonesia has no overlapping claim whatsoever with China, please note that,” Mr Retno said.

Mr Widodo heads to China today after visiting Japan on his first trip outside South-east Asia since becoming President.

China claims 90 per cent of the South China Sea via a vague nine-dash line boundary which has been inserted in official maps since the end of World War II.

There are overlapping claims by Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam to parts of the sea, where about US$5 trillion (S$6.87 trillion) of shipborne trade passes every year.


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Funny he doesn't chide us for our same 9 dash line claim.

 

[Nike]

Just like i said, one mistake and it will be fatal

Came from France with love

 

[Indos]

My Choice : 4 Squadrons of SU 35 (with TOT) "That will make it Badly FATAL"
This long range fighters is compatible with our next KFX/IFX,

(Taken from Russia Su-35 is officially on offer to India.)

The primary BVR weapon to be carried by early production variants of the Su-35S is the KTRV RVV-SD, an extended range evolution of the R-77 / AA-12 Adder similar to the AIM-120D. Note the laser proximity fuse supplanting the radiofrequency fuse (© 2009 Vitaliy V. Kuzmin).

The primary close combat weapon to be carried by early production variants of the Su-35S is the KTRV RVV-MD, an extended range evolution of the R-73/74 / AA-11 Archer with a jam resistant two colour scanning seeker and a laser proximity fuse. Note the wideband ZnS or ZnSe IR window replacing the MgF2 design used in earlier variants (© 2009 Vitaliy V. Kuzmin).


Differences:

Su-30MKI-
Maximum internal fuel - 9,640kgs
Max Range(without mid-air refueling) - 3000kms
Max ceiling - 17.3km
Max Speed - Mach 1.9
Canards - Yes
Crew - 2
Max Afterburner Thrust - 12500kgf, Emergency Thrust - 12800kgf
External Fuel Tanks - No
Composites - Not in significant quantity.
Empty Weight - unknown. Estimated to be around 18400kgs.
Airframe life - 3,000hrs or 15 years(at 200 hours flight time each year)
Internal Jammer - No
RCS - unofficial estimate 11.5m2
Airbrake - Yes
Supercruise- No


Su-35S-
Maximum internal fuel - 11,500kgs
Max Range(without mid-air refueling, without external fuel tanks) - 3600kms
Max ceiling - 18km
Max Speed - Mach 2.25
Canards - No (since radar isn't heavy)
Crew - 1
Max Afterburner Thrust - 14500kgf(gives a massive boost to TWR compared to Su-30MKI)
External Fuel Tanks - Yes (can carry 2 drop tanks of 1400kgs fuel in each of them)
Composites - Yes. Extensive use of Titanium Alloys.
Empty Weight - Unknown. Estimated to be around 18800kgs.
Airframe life - 6,000hrs or 30 years(at 200 hours flight time each year)
Internal Jammer - Yes
RCS - unofficial estimate between 1-3m2
Airbrake - No. Powerful modified rudders act as Airbrakes.
Supercruise - Yes

Radar-
This deserves a separate mention. Because this is where the difference is at its max.
Su-30MKI has a N-011M BARS Radar
Transmitter peak power - 5kw
Transmitter average power - 1.2kw
Can Track- 15 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 4 Targets
Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 140 km(Upgraded Radar with upgraded transmitter power, if any in service, its range is unknown.)

Su-35S has N-035 IRBIS-E. The most powerful Fighter Plane mounted X Band radar in the world. Specs are as follows.
Transmitter peak power - 20kw
Transmitter average power - 5kw
Can Track - 30 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 8 Targets
Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 426 km
Max Detection for 3 sqm RCS - 375 km
Max Detection for 1 sqm RCS - 285 km
Max Detection for 0.01 sqm RCS - 90 km


DATA FROM OFFICIAL SUKHOI and NIIP WEBSITES.

APG-77 AESA (F-22A)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 20 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 35 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 112 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 200 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 300 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 355 km+

Taken from Manticore post