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The presentation of Nora GS-B52 155 mm Howitzer Cannon Made by Serbia
The following specifications Nora GS-B52 155 mm howitzer cannon of Serbia:
1. Shots technology using computerized technology.
2. Speed Shot 6-12 rounds per minute.
3. Achieve Maximum Distance 67 Km.
4. Vehicle Speed on Highway 90 km / h, Cross-Terrain Vehicle Speed 15 km / h.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nora_B-52
The following specifications Nora GS-B52 155 mm howitzer cannon of Serbia:
1. Shots technology using computerized technology.
2. Speed Shot 6-12 rounds per minute.
3. Achieve Maximum Distance 67 Km.
4. Vehicle Speed on Highway 90 km / h, Cross-Terrain Vehicle Speed 15 km / h.
http://pussenarmed.net/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nora_B-52
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quite interesting,then who do you think capable of leading this military pact of yours?The Proposal to establish a new Military pact for Malaysia, brunei and Indonesia .. call it "Angkatan Tentera Melayu Bersatu" (ATMB)..
As all we know that Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia are "Serumpun" because the majority of our people are Malays
Currently .. we have :"same common enemy" who are agressively claiming our ZEE at South China Sea .. As "Saudara Serumpun" with almost 300 million of population ..the united of of Malay state (Malaysia,Brunei and Indonesia) can be categorized as " a new Middle Power" ... not only in Asia, but also in the world .. ..
To counter the current situation in the region ..For your info .. many our military expert in our university have proposed to our governement to be more pro-active to propose the establishment of new military pact in this "Alam Melayu" to secure the survival of our "Bangsa Melayu" our people from the possible invasion from PRC and others. ...
The ATM, Tentera Diraja Brunei dan TNI can established a new commando called it .. "Angjkatan Tentera Melayu Bersatu (ATMB)".. In the proposal ... Malaysia and Brunei can share their money .to support the operation of this ATMB .... meanwhile Indonesia /TNI can supply and/orshare its people ..
I believe that this win win scheme will give beenefit for all of its members ... and for long term .. also can create a "Glory" of Bangsa Melayu (yang dahulu dimuliakan oleh Empire Srwijaya dan Melaka) .. A new "Ketruanan Melayu" not only for Malaysia .. but also for Brunei and Indonesia
BKR Laoet sailors, predecessor of Indonesian Navy near Kali kresek.
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the following is an article from 2015 concerning defence spending of asean countries...
it is interesting to see that according to this article indonesia has the second highest military expenditure among aseans after singapore, yet if one to compare the defence spending as a percentage of GDP or gov. spending then indonesia is placed at the lowest...
now if all is well up to 2019. hopefully we can reach the aseans average of 2.2% of GDP. as our president has pledged (i kind of forgot... defence budget has risen slightly right?? to one point something percent).
Analyzing Southeast Asia’s Military Expenditures
by cogitASIA Staff • May 7, 2015 •
By Zachary Abuza
The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) recently released their 2014 database, which shows robust growth in defense spending throughout Southeast Asia. Though the SIPRI data only goes through 2014, when at least two countries have already announced 2016 defense budgets, it shows important regional trends.
ASEAN countries military expenditures in 2014 in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
The region has seen steady growth in military expenditure between 2010 and 2014. There were net increases for all countries, averaging 37.6 percent. Southeast Asian countries spent $38.2 billion on defense in 2014.
Southeast Asian military expenditures from 2010-2014 shown in millions of current U.S. dollars. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
There were large disparities in military spending between 2013 and 2014. Brunei surged 28.2 percent, followed by Cambodia at 14.4 percent and Vietnam at 14.1 percent. Four countries, led by Indonesia, actually saw declines in their military budgets in U.S. dollar terms, though this has to do with currency exchange rates. In local currencies, only Indonesia saw a decline, and the average increase was 9.5 percent, more than double the figure in current U.S. dollars, 4.1 percent.
All countries saw strong increases in military spending between 2010 and 2014. Vietnam led with a 59.1 percent increase, followed by Cambodia, 56.2 percent, and Indonesia, 50.6 percent. The average increase between 2010 and 2014 was 37.6 percent in U.S. dollars and 44 percent in local currencies. It was the less developed states that were above the regional average, as they tried to play catch up.
Southeast Asian military expenditures percent change from 2010-2014 in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
Singapore accounted for over a quarter of ASEAN’s defense spending in 2014, or as much as Vietnam, the Philippines, and Myanmar combined.
Military spending by country as a percentage of total ASEAN spending in 2014. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
The average military expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) was 2.2 percent in ASEAN in 2014, though it ranged from 0.8 percent (Indonesia) to 4.3 percent (Myanmar). Military expenditure as a percentage of GDP remains fairly stable; only Brunei and Myanmar have seen dramatic shifts between 2010 and 2014.
Southeast Asian countries’ defense spending as a percentage of GDP and defense spending as a percentage of overall government spending. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
Singapore at 18.3 percent led the region with military expenditure as a percent of all government spending in 2014. The average was 8.8 percent. Unlike GDP, defense spending as a percent of government spending fluctuates year to year.
There is wide disparity in per capita military expenditure, from Cambodia, $18.10, to Singapore, $1,789. The average for the region is $392, but is only $60 without small and wealthy Singapore and Brunei.
Southeast Asia’s per capita military expenditure for 2014, in current U.S. dollars. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
After a sharp fall due to the Asian financial crisis in 1997, Indonesia has seen the largest increase in military expenditure in the region. Between 2001 and 2014, defense spending increased from under $1 billion to over $7 billion, a 664 percent increase, and a 784 percent increase in rupiah. The sharpest rise occurred after President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono came into office in October 2004. Between 2005 and 2013, defense spending rose 290 percent, before falling slightly in 2014. Between 2013 and 2014, military spending fell by 16 percent in current U.S. dollars, but only 4.8 percent in rupiah.
Indonesian military expenditure in the post-Suharto era, shown in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
In 2014, Indonesia accounted for 18 percent of all of ASEAN defense spending. Military spending accounted for 4.1 percent of total government spending in 2014, less than half of the regional average of 8.8 percent. Indonesian defense spending as a percentage of GDP was the lowest in the region at 0.8 percent, well below the average of 2.2. percent. Per capita defense spending in Indonesia is $27.80, the second lowest in the region after Cambodia. In April 2015, the Indonesian parliament announced a plan to increase military expenditure to $15 billion by 2020, twice the 2015 level; expenditure would increase from 0.8 percent to 1.5 percent of GDP.
Thai military expenditures grew modestly before the September 2006 coup. Since then, they have soared, despite any meaningful threats to Thai territorial integrity. The military rewarded itself with a 44.3 percent increase following the 2006 coup. Between 2008-2014, democratically elected governments tried to fend off another coup by overseeing a 28.3 percent increase to the military budget. Between 2006 and 2014 coups, military expenditures increased nearly fourfold. Thailand has the third highest military budget in the region, at $5.73 billion, or 15 percent of ASEAN’s total. Spending in 2014, fell by 2.9 percent in current U.S. dollars, though it increased by 4.9 percent in baht. There was a 15.5 percent increase in defense spending between 2010 and 2014.
Surprisingly, Thai military expenditure was only 1.5 percent of GDP in 2015, below the regional average of 2.2 percent. Likewise it was only 6.6 percent of government spending below the regional average of 8.8 percent. Spending increased sharply in 2015 following the coup. In April 2015, the military government proposed a 2016 defense budget of $6.3 billion, seven percent above the 2015 level; It would comprise eight percent of total state expenditures and 1.5 percent of GDP. Thailand continues to lag in per capita spending, at $85.30, below the regional average of $392. Despite the increase in funding, Thailand is plagued with corruption and inefficiency in its procurement systems.
Malaysia has seen a steady but modest increase in military spending between 2010-2014, 27.6 percent, below the regional average of 37.7 percent. Malaysia has the fourth largest defense expenditure in the region, representing 13 percent of the ASEAN total in 2014. Defense spending fell by 1.6 percent between 2013 and 2014 in U.S. dollar terms, but increased 5.5 percent in ringgit. Defense represented a modest 5.4 percent of government spending and only 1.5 percent of GDP, well below the regional average of 2.2 percent in 2014. Per capita defense spending is $163 in Malaysia, third in ASEAN. Per capita spending increased 23 percent between 2010 and 2011, but has been flat since then.
Vietnam has seen the steadiest increase in military expenditure in the region. In the decade between 2005 and 2014, its military spending increased by 314 percent. In that time it has developed the most lethal power projection capabilities in Southeast Asia, including one of the largest navies, with advanced Kilo-class submarines, and the most sophisticated missile force in the region. Vietnam’s $5.73 billion defense budget in 2014 was the fifth largest and 11 percent of the ASEAN total. Defense expenditure rose 14.1 percent in US$ and 15.4 percent in dong, between 2013 and 2014. Between 2010 and 2014, Vietnamese military spending increased 59.1 percent in U.S. dollars and 81 percent in dong. Vietnamese defense spending in 2014 was 2.2 percent of GDP, the ASEAN average. As a share of total government spending, 8.3 percent, it was just under the regional average of 8.8 percent. Per capita spending in Vietnam is still low, only $46.
The Philippine government is starting to make long needed investments in its military. Defense spending was $3.3 billion in 2014, or 9 percent of ASEAN’s total. In current U.S. dollars, this was a 2.5 percent decline from 2013, but actually a two percent increase in pesos. Between 2010 and 2014, Philippine defense spending increased, 35 percent, near the regional average of 37.6 percent. Military expenditure in 2014, represented 1.1 percent of GDP — half of the ASEAN average –, and six percent of government spending, below the regional average of 8.8 percent. In terms of per capita spending, the Philippines, at $32.90, was the third lowest in ASEAN in 2014. The government of President Benigno Aquino is implementing a $1.8 billion modernization program, but it comes after years of neglect. Vietnam has a far more robust military than the Philippines, despite similar budgets.
Dr. Zachary Abuza is principal of Southeast Asia Analytics, and writes on Southeast Asian politics and security issues. Follow him on twitter @ZachAbuza.
http://cogitasia.com/analyzing-southeast-asias-military-expenditures/
it is interesting to see that according to this article indonesia has the second highest military expenditure among aseans after singapore, yet if one to compare the defence spending as a percentage of GDP or gov. spending then indonesia is placed at the lowest...
now if all is well up to 2019. hopefully we can reach the aseans average of 2.2% of GDP. as our president has pledged (i kind of forgot... defence budget has risen slightly right?? to one point something percent).
Analyzing Southeast Asia’s Military Expenditures
by cogitASIA Staff • May 7, 2015 •
By Zachary Abuza
The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) recently released their 2014 database, which shows robust growth in defense spending throughout Southeast Asia. Though the SIPRI data only goes through 2014, when at least two countries have already announced 2016 defense budgets, it shows important regional trends.
ASEAN countries military expenditures in 2014 in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
The region has seen steady growth in military expenditure between 2010 and 2014. There were net increases for all countries, averaging 37.6 percent. Southeast Asian countries spent $38.2 billion on defense in 2014.
Southeast Asian military expenditures from 2010-2014 shown in millions of current U.S. dollars. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
There were large disparities in military spending between 2013 and 2014. Brunei surged 28.2 percent, followed by Cambodia at 14.4 percent and Vietnam at 14.1 percent. Four countries, led by Indonesia, actually saw declines in their military budgets in U.S. dollar terms, though this has to do with currency exchange rates. In local currencies, only Indonesia saw a decline, and the average increase was 9.5 percent, more than double the figure in current U.S. dollars, 4.1 percent.
All countries saw strong increases in military spending between 2010 and 2014. Vietnam led with a 59.1 percent increase, followed by Cambodia, 56.2 percent, and Indonesia, 50.6 percent. The average increase between 2010 and 2014 was 37.6 percent in U.S. dollars and 44 percent in local currencies. It was the less developed states that were above the regional average, as they tried to play catch up.
Southeast Asian military expenditures percent change from 2010-2014 in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
Singapore accounted for over a quarter of ASEAN’s defense spending in 2014, or as much as Vietnam, the Philippines, and Myanmar combined.
Military spending by country as a percentage of total ASEAN spending in 2014. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
The average military expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) was 2.2 percent in ASEAN in 2014, though it ranged from 0.8 percent (Indonesia) to 4.3 percent (Myanmar). Military expenditure as a percentage of GDP remains fairly stable; only Brunei and Myanmar have seen dramatic shifts between 2010 and 2014.
Southeast Asian countries’ defense spending as a percentage of GDP and defense spending as a percentage of overall government spending. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
Singapore at 18.3 percent led the region with military expenditure as a percent of all government spending in 2014. The average was 8.8 percent. Unlike GDP, defense spending as a percent of government spending fluctuates year to year.
There is wide disparity in per capita military expenditure, from Cambodia, $18.10, to Singapore, $1,789. The average for the region is $392, but is only $60 without small and wealthy Singapore and Brunei.
Southeast Asia’s per capita military expenditure for 2014, in current U.S. dollars. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
After a sharp fall due to the Asian financial crisis in 1997, Indonesia has seen the largest increase in military expenditure in the region. Between 2001 and 2014, defense spending increased from under $1 billion to over $7 billion, a 664 percent increase, and a 784 percent increase in rupiah. The sharpest rise occurred after President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono came into office in October 2004. Between 2005 and 2013, defense spending rose 290 percent, before falling slightly in 2014. Between 2013 and 2014, military spending fell by 16 percent in current U.S. dollars, but only 4.8 percent in rupiah.
Indonesian military expenditure in the post-Suharto era, shown in current U.S. dollar terms. Source: SIPRI dataset, graphic prepared by Zachary Abuza.
In 2014, Indonesia accounted for 18 percent of all of ASEAN defense spending. Military spending accounted for 4.1 percent of total government spending in 2014, less than half of the regional average of 8.8 percent. Indonesian defense spending as a percentage of GDP was the lowest in the region at 0.8 percent, well below the average of 2.2. percent. Per capita defense spending in Indonesia is $27.80, the second lowest in the region after Cambodia. In April 2015, the Indonesian parliament announced a plan to increase military expenditure to $15 billion by 2020, twice the 2015 level; expenditure would increase from 0.8 percent to 1.5 percent of GDP.
Thai military expenditures grew modestly before the September 2006 coup. Since then, they have soared, despite any meaningful threats to Thai territorial integrity. The military rewarded itself with a 44.3 percent increase following the 2006 coup. Between 2008-2014, democratically elected governments tried to fend off another coup by overseeing a 28.3 percent increase to the military budget. Between 2006 and 2014 coups, military expenditures increased nearly fourfold. Thailand has the third highest military budget in the region, at $5.73 billion, or 15 percent of ASEAN’s total. Spending in 2014, fell by 2.9 percent in current U.S. dollars, though it increased by 4.9 percent in baht. There was a 15.5 percent increase in defense spending between 2010 and 2014.
Surprisingly, Thai military expenditure was only 1.5 percent of GDP in 2015, below the regional average of 2.2 percent. Likewise it was only 6.6 percent of government spending below the regional average of 8.8 percent. Spending increased sharply in 2015 following the coup. In April 2015, the military government proposed a 2016 defense budget of $6.3 billion, seven percent above the 2015 level; It would comprise eight percent of total state expenditures and 1.5 percent of GDP. Thailand continues to lag in per capita spending, at $85.30, below the regional average of $392. Despite the increase in funding, Thailand is plagued with corruption and inefficiency in its procurement systems.
Malaysia has seen a steady but modest increase in military spending between 2010-2014, 27.6 percent, below the regional average of 37.7 percent. Malaysia has the fourth largest defense expenditure in the region, representing 13 percent of the ASEAN total in 2014. Defense spending fell by 1.6 percent between 2013 and 2014 in U.S. dollar terms, but increased 5.5 percent in ringgit. Defense represented a modest 5.4 percent of government spending and only 1.5 percent of GDP, well below the regional average of 2.2 percent in 2014. Per capita defense spending is $163 in Malaysia, third in ASEAN. Per capita spending increased 23 percent between 2010 and 2011, but has been flat since then.
Vietnam has seen the steadiest increase in military expenditure in the region. In the decade between 2005 and 2014, its military spending increased by 314 percent. In that time it has developed the most lethal power projection capabilities in Southeast Asia, including one of the largest navies, with advanced Kilo-class submarines, and the most sophisticated missile force in the region. Vietnam’s $5.73 billion defense budget in 2014 was the fifth largest and 11 percent of the ASEAN total. Defense expenditure rose 14.1 percent in US$ and 15.4 percent in dong, between 2013 and 2014. Between 2010 and 2014, Vietnamese military spending increased 59.1 percent in U.S. dollars and 81 percent in dong. Vietnamese defense spending in 2014 was 2.2 percent of GDP, the ASEAN average. As a share of total government spending, 8.3 percent, it was just under the regional average of 8.8 percent. Per capita spending in Vietnam is still low, only $46.
The Philippine government is starting to make long needed investments in its military. Defense spending was $3.3 billion in 2014, or 9 percent of ASEAN’s total. In current U.S. dollars, this was a 2.5 percent decline from 2013, but actually a two percent increase in pesos. Between 2010 and 2014, Philippine defense spending increased, 35 percent, near the regional average of 37.6 percent. Military expenditure in 2014, represented 1.1 percent of GDP — half of the ASEAN average –, and six percent of government spending, below the regional average of 8.8 percent. In terms of per capita spending, the Philippines, at $32.90, was the third lowest in ASEAN in 2014. The government of President Benigno Aquino is implementing a $1.8 billion modernization program, but it comes after years of neglect. Vietnam has a far more robust military than the Philippines, despite similar budgets.
Dr. Zachary Abuza is principal of Southeast Asia Analytics, and writes on Southeast Asian politics and security issues. Follow him on twitter @ZachAbuza.
http://cogitasia.com/analyzing-southeast-asias-military-expenditures/
huh... that's interesting.... i remember reading an article somewhere that state the opposite.... i must've remember it incorrectly...
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Hawaii Army National Guard Hosts Indonesian Air Force for Knowledge Exchange
Indonesian-Angkatan Maj. Vicky Simatupang gives a brief on Indonesian Helicopter maintenance practices during an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 21, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Maj, Joseph O. Tolentino addresses Indonesian-Angkatan aviation officers during a Subject Matter Expert Exchange (SMEE) at Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 18, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Anthony Peck shows visiting Indonesian-Angkatan Col. Eding Sungkana the flight controls of one of the Hawaii Army National Guard’s UH-60M Blackhawk helicopters at Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, during an aviation Subject matter expert exchange between service members from the U.S. and Indonesia on July 18, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Fred T. Dona prepares a simulated weight for a sling load demonstration using a CH-47F Chinook helicopter as part of an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at the Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 20, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S Army National Guard soldiers and Indonesian-Angkatan aviation officers take turns sitting on the edge of the cargo loading ramp of a CH-47F Chinook during an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at the Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 20, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/20487...hosts-indonesian-air-force-knowledge-exchange
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Indonesian-Angkatan Maj. Vicky Simatupang gives a brief on Indonesian Helicopter maintenance practices during an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 21, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Maj, Joseph O. Tolentino addresses Indonesian-Angkatan aviation officers during a Subject Matter Expert Exchange (SMEE) at Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 18, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Anthony Peck shows visiting Indonesian-Angkatan Col. Eding Sungkana the flight controls of one of the Hawaii Army National Guard’s UH-60M Blackhawk helicopters at Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, during an aviation Subject matter expert exchange between service members from the U.S. and Indonesia on July 18, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Fred T. Dona prepares a simulated weight for a sling load demonstration using a CH-47F Chinook helicopter as part of an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at the Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 20, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
U.S Army National Guard soldiers and Indonesian-Angkatan aviation officers take turns sitting on the edge of the cargo loading ramp of a CH-47F Chinook during an aviation subject matter expert exchange held at the Army Aviation Support Facility #1, Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, Hawaii on July 20, 2016. The exchange is intended to build a strong relationship between the U.S. and Indonesia under the State Partnership Program (Army National Guard photo by Spc. Paul D. Berzinas/Released)
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lel, even our National Police budget still bigger than their armed forces budgethttp://www.janes.com/article/55504/malaysia-announces-2016-defence-budget
That yearly defense spending, plus additional fund around 12 Billion USD only for weapon acquisition until 2019.
http://www.beritasatu.com/nasional/375600-audit-industri-alutsista-wujudkan-mef-2019.html
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Please note that our military budget is only for ATM's operation,maintanance and additional new assets .(exclude for wage and salary) .. meanwhile your budget .. almost 60 - 70% and/or the majority are allocated only for wage and salary ...I also understand that you can purchase new equipment or to modernize TNI because you borrowed money from bank and others countries (including our banks) ..
I can't also understand if many of you still hesitate to make an with us .. because you still think as a "Big Brother", you are better than us .. However, these facts might be useful to "change" your "negative perception" to us ..
1 Our banks (CIMB and Maybank) have helped to finance many of your corporates such as Garuda, Pertamina, Pindad, PAL, PTDI etc ... Our banks also assist your state banks like BNI, Mandiri, BRI and BTN to transform into modern banks like us ..
2. Our largest state infrastructure company (Prasarana) has constructed your longest toll road (CIPALI) and currently is still constructing its extension from Brebes to Batang, Pemalang and Semarang (with total investment value of more than USD4 billion)
3. We are also happy to accommodate more than 3 -5 million of your TKI to work in our land (legal + ilegally workers). For your info, almost 15 million of your people can live "sejahtera" with our money through transfer of at least RM 20 billion or USD 5 billion annually to their family in Indonesia .. I can't understand what will happen to these people and their family if we did not want to accommodate them. We are also offered our citizenship to them .. and until
now .. almost 2 million accepted our offer .. For Them ... Indonesia are still their "Home Land"
4. We are currently the largest investors in your palm oil plantation ... Currently, at least 65% of your palm oil plantations area are owned and controlled by ours. ..
5. Malaysia also the second largest investor in Indonesia after Singapore with total investment value (cumm) USD 80 - 100 billion .. We prefer to invest in Indonesia because we are comfortable to make business here. .. Dou you know that many of our biggest company like Air Asia, Sime Derby, CIMB not only want to expand their business to Indonesia .. But, they also want to move their Head Office to Indonesia because they know that their business in Indonesia are more profitable than their business in Malaysia and/or other countries
6. We are also the largest market for your products in ASEAN ...
However we acknowledged the "lower" quality of PTDI's products .. we still decided to buy CN235 from you because we are also proud on this company and want PTDI to continue to survive as a first aircraft manufacturer in our Alam Melayu . We have also offered PTDI to finance your new N219 project and if posssible asssemble this new plane in Malaysia
7. We always support your country (as brother) when Indonesia collapsed in 1965, 1997/98 and during the largest tsunamy in Aceh in 2004 etc etc ....
8.. Many others that you can search by yourselves in google
The conclusion .. ... I hope above facts can change your negative perception to us ..Both countries can cooperate for the benefit of our two countries
Salam Persaudaraan Melayu .. For Malaysia .. Indonesia is the most important and respected country .. ... .
I can't also understand if many of you still hesitate to make an with us .. because you still think as a "Big Brother", you are better than us .. However, these facts might be useful to "change" your "negative perception" to us ..
1 Our banks (CIMB and Maybank) have helped to finance many of your corporates such as Garuda, Pertamina, Pindad, PAL, PTDI etc ... Our banks also assist your state banks like BNI, Mandiri, BRI and BTN to transform into modern banks like us ..
2. Our largest state infrastructure company (Prasarana) has constructed your longest toll road (CIPALI) and currently is still constructing its extension from Brebes to Batang, Pemalang and Semarang (with total investment value of more than USD4 billion)
3. We are also happy to accommodate more than 3 -5 million of your TKI to work in our land (legal + ilegally workers). For your info, almost 15 million of your people can live "sejahtera" with our money through transfer of at least RM 20 billion or USD 5 billion annually to their family in Indonesia .. I can't understand what will happen to these people and their family if we did not want to accommodate them. We are also offered our citizenship to them .. and until
now .. almost 2 million accepted our offer .. For Them ... Indonesia are still their "Home Land"
4. We are currently the largest investors in your palm oil plantation ... Currently, at least 65% of your palm oil plantations area are owned and controlled by ours. ..
5. Malaysia also the second largest investor in Indonesia after Singapore with total investment value (cumm) USD 80 - 100 billion .. We prefer to invest in Indonesia because we are comfortable to make business here. .. Dou you know that many of our biggest company like Air Asia, Sime Derby, CIMB not only want to expand their business to Indonesia .. But, they also want to move their Head Office to Indonesia because they know that their business in Indonesia are more profitable than their business in Malaysia and/or other countries
6. We are also the largest market for your products in ASEAN ...
However we acknowledged the "lower" quality of PTDI's products .. we still decided to buy CN235 from you because we are also proud on this company and want PTDI to continue to survive as a first aircraft manufacturer in our Alam Melayu . We have also offered PTDI to finance your new N219 project and if posssible asssemble this new plane in Malaysia
7. We always support your country (as brother) when Indonesia collapsed in 1965, 1997/98 and during the largest tsunamy in Aceh in 2004 etc etc ....
8.. Many others that you can search by yourselves in google
The conclusion .. ... I hope above facts can change your negative perception to us ..Both countries can cooperate for the benefit of our two countries
Salam Persaudaraan Melayu .. For Malaysia .. Indonesia is the most important and respected country .. ... .
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The Proposal to establish a new Military pact for Malaysia, brunei and Indonesia .. call it "Angkatan Tentera Melayu Bersatu" (ATMB)..
As all we know that Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia are "Serumpun" because the majority of our people are Malays
Currently .. we have :"same common enemy" who are agressively claiming our ZEE at South China Sea .. As "Saudara Serumpun" with almost 300 million of population ..the united of of Malay state (Malaysia,Brunei and Indonesia) can be categorized as " a new Middle Power" ... not only in Asia, but also in the world .. ..
To counter the current situation in the region ..For your info .. many our military expert in our university have proposed to our governement to be more pro-active to propose the establishment of new military pact in this "Alam Melayu" to secure the survival of our "Bangsa Melayu" our people from the possible invasion from PRC and others. ...
The ATM, Tentera Diraja Brunei dan TNI can established a new commando called it .. "Angjkatan Tentera Melayu Bersatu (ATMB)".. In the proposal ... Malaysia and Brunei can share their money .to support the operation of this ATMB .... meanwhile Indonesia /TNI can supply and/orshare its people ..
I believe that this win win scheme will give beenefit for all of its members ... and for long term .. also can create a "Glory" of Bangsa Melayu (yang dahulu dimuliakan oleh Empire Srwijaya dan Melaka) .. A new "Ketruanan Melayu" not only for Malaysia .. but also for Brunei and Indonesia
This is what we called as " COWARDLY ACT ". Go and tell your enemy in their face by your own self. Ups... I don't think you'll have the courage.
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Pasukan Korps Marinir Indonesia bersama peserta dari negara lain saat live-fire training dalam Latma Maritim Rim of the Pacific 2016, Hawaii.
Kegiatan Pralat Garuda Shield-10 meliputi kegiatan Patroli bersama dan pengetahuan mengatasi ranjau. Diikuti sekitar 250 prajurit dari Batalyon Infanteri Raider 514 Kostrad dan Batalyon Infanteri Raider 515 Kostrad.
Kegiatan Pralat Garuda Shield-10 dilaksanakan di Puslatpur Marinir Grati, Kab Pasuruan, Jawa Timur yang dipimpin secara langsung oleh Komandan Bigade Infanteri Raider 9 Kostrad selaku Komandan Latihan Garuda Shield-10 tahun 2016.
Latihan Bersama Garuda Shield adalah latihan yang digelar dalam rangka menjaga hubungan bilateral antara TNI AD dengan AD Amerika Serikat, maka dilaksanakan kerjasama angkatan dalam bentuk latihan bersama, salah satunya adalah Garuda Shield.
Kegiatan Pralat Garuda Shield-10 meliputi kegiatan Patroli bersama dan pengetahuan mengatasi ranjau. Diikuti sekitar 250 prajurit dari Batalyon Infanteri Raider 514 Kostrad dan Batalyon Infanteri Raider 515 Kostrad.
Kegiatan Pralat Garuda Shield-10 dilaksanakan di Puslatpur Marinir Grati, Kab Pasuruan, Jawa Timur yang dipimpin secara langsung oleh Komandan Bigade Infanteri Raider 9 Kostrad selaku Komandan Latihan Garuda Shield-10 tahun 2016.
Latihan Bersama Garuda Shield adalah latihan yang digelar dalam rangka menjaga hubungan bilateral antara TNI AD dengan AD Amerika Serikat, maka dilaksanakan kerjasama angkatan dalam bentuk latihan bersama, salah satunya adalah Garuda Shield.
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umm... i don't think most poster here have negative perception of malaysia that much... i do believe they have a negative perception of you personally... you should be able to tell that just by reading their posts..The conclusion .. ... I hope above facts can change your negative perception to us ..Both countries can cooperate for the benefit of our two countries
Salam Persaudaraan Melayu .. For Malaysia .. Indonesia is the most important and respected country .. ... .
to be more accurate you yourself create a negative image of you yourself and, sadly, indirectly create a negative image of your own country... you should be able to tell that just by reading your own posts..
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Well TDM put their high rank officer (brigadier general ranks or above) as defence attache at their embassy in Jakarta is had been telling you how much Indonesia is very important to them militarily and diplomatically
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