Indonesia Defence Forum

[nufix]

What is this thing with Tank type gun on it and is it Anti Tank and other things

The vehicle uses Cockerill CSE 90LP low pressure gun, the role of this vehicle as an infantry fighting vehicle. Effective for throwing HE shells and destroying light armored vehicle, but unreliable against heavy tanks, although the gun also fires APFSDS-T sabot round.

The light anti-tank role will probably be done by Pindad 6x6 20mm which is able to carry anti tank weapon

 

[Zarvan]

The vehicle uses Cockerill CSE 90LP low pressure gun, the role of this vehicle as an infantry fighting vehicle. Effective for throwing HE shells and destroying light armored vehicle, but unreliable against heavy tanks, although the gun also fires APFSDS-T sabot round.

The light anti-tank role will probably be done by Pindad 6x6 20mm which is able to carry anti tank weapon

So How many of you will those which are with that Tank type gun with them ?

 

[nufix]

So How many of you will those which are with that Tank type gun with them ?

The government planned for more than a thousand Pindad 6x6 IFV and APC variants, the details of how many units for each variant is not revealed yet, but the initial order for the 6X6 90mm itself is 22 units.


Pindad 6x6 all variants, fresh from oven.

 

[soaringeagle]

VERY useful against beachhead landing type invasions.
ID has some smart army officials.

The government planned for more than a thousand Pindad 6x6 IFV and APC variants, the details of how many units for each variant is not revealed yet, but the initial order for the 6X6 90mm itself is 22 units.


Pindad 6x6 all variants, fresh from oven.

 

[nufix]

VERY useful against beachhead landing type invasions.
ID has some smart army officials.

Thank you, well Indonesia consists of thousands of Islands, beach storming is vital to Indonesian strategy. Massive armored led landing like China would be very useful.

 

[Fsjal]

I have one question-Why is Indonesia making all these weapon for their military?

What is Indonesia's objective? Does Indonesia want to be a rising power like China or is it because of Australia, Malaysia and Singapore?

 

[soaringeagle]

So far most of the weaponry they have shown are more on the "for defense purpose" side.

I have one question-Why is Indonesia making all these weapon for their military?

What is Indonesia's objective? Does Indonesia want to be a rising power like China or is it because of Australia, Malaysia and Singapore?

 

[nufix]

I have one question-Why is Indonesia making all these weapon for their military?

What is Indonesia's objective? Does Indonesia want to be a rising power like China or is it because of Australia, Malaysia and Singapore?

Mainly because there's an urgent need of defense. SCS is now hot, we have to prepare as early as possible. Not to mention that Indonesia and Malaysia, Australia, and Singapore have a history of warfare. But as you see, most of these weapons are built for defense purpose as the specification of these weapons were designed mainly for operation in Indonesian soil.

 

[Fsjal]

Mainly because there's an urgent need of defense. SCS is now hot, we have to prepare as early as possible. Not to mention that Indonesia and Malaysia, Australia, and Singapore have a history of warfare. But as you see, most of these weapons are built for defense purpose as the specification of these weapons were designed mainly for operation in Indonesian soil.

Who's the aggressor? Vietnam, Philippines?

 

[nufix]

Who's the aggressor? Vietnam, Philippines?

We don't know, the aggressor would be the one that attack Indonesia militarily, be it weaker countries or stronger countries.

 

[Fsjal]

We don't know, the aggressor would be the one that attack Indonesia militarily, be it weaker countries or stronger countries.

Indonesia preps for Type 209 submarine construction
Taken from Jane's
Credit to: T Hambrata Azmir @JMP


Indonesia is preparing to build facilities in support of local shipbuilder PT PAL's planned licensed construction of the third of three South Korean Type 209 diesel-electric attack submarines, althoughIHS Jane's understands that the scope of Indonesia's involvement in the programme remains subject to negotiation.The facilities to license-build the submarines, which were ordered from Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) in December 2011, will be operated by state-owned PT PAL adjacent to its existing industrial plant in Surabaya, East Java.

Secondary facilities are also expected to be constructed at the Indonesian Navy base in Palu, on the island of Sulawesi, which is scheduled to be commissioned later this year.The schedule to construct the submarine facilities has slipped several months due to administrative delays, but in a meeting with the Committee for Defence Industry Policy (KKIP) on 11 June, Defence Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said in comments published by theIndonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) that the programme would start "soon".He added that the industrial infrastructure to construct and maintain the submarines will be completed by 2015 or 2016 in line withIndonesia's objective to license-build the third submarine and deliver it to the navy by the end of the decade. PT PAL has received around IDR600 billion (USD60 million) from the government to build the facilities, although additional funds are expected to be required.

The first and second submarines are scheduled to be delivered from 2014 and 2016, and are being constructed by DSME in South Korea with gradually increased input from PT PAL engineers and technicians over the period of the programme. Indonesia has expressed a desire to license-build the third submarine domestically following the transfer of tools, technologies and know-how to PT PAL.IHS Jane's has learned from industry sources, however, that the scope of PT PAL's involvement in the third submarine remains subject to discussion between Indonesia and South Korea.

A point of contention is PT PAL's industrial capabilities.Sources said DSME has maintained that PT PAL does not have the capabilities to build the whole submarine in Indonesia and favours the company's involvement in constructing parts of the submarine. The Indonesian side, meanwhile, wants a higher degree of involvement and to undertake the complete build programme following technology transfer.The rationale behind Indonesia's license build programme is Jakarta's target to develop defence industrial capabilities within the country and to achieve higher levels of self-reliance. In this sense, Indonesia hopes to locally build further submarines in the future in line with its strategic objective to secure its expansive exclusive economic zone.

If Indonesia is under attack, there will always be backup from its neighbors

 

[nufix]

If Indonesia is under attack, there will always be backup from its neighbors

Hope so, Indonesia maintains relatively good diplomatic relation with the neighboring countries. Surely it will come in handy in times of desperate needs.

 

[Inoyasha2]

i already posted this in the previous page mas bro post number #430

Indonesia preps for Type 209 submarine construction
Taken from Jane's

 

[Inoyasha2]

Batam to host Komodo naval joint exercise
Fadli, The Jakarta Post, Batam, Sat, June 15 2013, 8:29 AM


Indonesia will host the 2014 Komodo multilateral joint exercise to improve naval cooperation capabilities in disaster relief, in Riau Islands province, the Navy revealed on Friday.

Participants will come from 18 countries involving 28 warships and 4,500 sailors, director of the joint exercise, Commodore Amarullah Octavian, said on Friday.

“Batam and Natuna have been designated as the joint exercise area,” he told a preparation meeting at Swiss-Belhotel Harbour Bay.

Amarullah, who is Sea Combat Task Force chief of the Indonesian Navy Western Fleet, said the multilateral joint exercise would be held in early April 2014 at the latest.

The Indonesian Navy was currently preparing details of the multilateral joint exercise together with other stakeholders, he added.

“The exercise will focus on naval capabilities in disaster relief but we also pay attention to the aggressive stance of the Chinese government by entering the Natuna area,” said Amarullah.

“We want to explain that our foreign police stipulates that Natuna is part of Indonesia.”

He added there was a political agenda in the multilateral joint exercise that was to show to participating countries that Natuna was part of Indonesia.

“Currently there has been no claim from China over the Natuna area but we do not want the Sipadan-Ligitan incident to happen again,” said Amarullah.

China has been flexing its muscles and claimed most part of the South China Sea through the so-called nine dotted lines. While the claim has yet to encroach Natuna waters, many observers believe that China will eventually do so.

Amarullah said that the Indonesian Navy would distribute exercise maps which display Indonesian border delineations including Natuna.

“Therefore, diplomatically all countries have recognized all Indonesian borders,” he said.

He said that participating countries in the multilateral joint exercise include all 10 country members of ASEAN plus Australia, China, India, Japan, New Zealand, Russia, South Korea and the United States.

The need to improve naval capabilities in disaster relief was felt after the Aceh tsunami, which was triggered by the Dec. 26, 2004, earthquake and affected countries around the Indian Ocean basin.

Meanwhile, Assistant to Batam City Secretary for Economic Affairs, Raja Supri, said that the city administration fully support the planned multilateral joint exercise in Batam and Natuna and have prepared logistical support.

“We have prepared water taxi for exercise participants to commute between the warships and land,” he said.

“We will used modified pancung boat for the participants’ comfort.”

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is scheduled to open the multilateral joint exercise.

The 18 countries will also take part in the Counter Terrorism Exercise (CTx) to be held at the Indonesian Peace and Security Center in Sentul, Bogor, in West Java in September.

The CTx will be cohosted by Indonesia and the United States as cochairs of a regional counterterrorism initiative under the ASEAN Defense Minister Meeting Plus framework.

Some 1,800 special forces operatives are due to take part at the CTx.







taken from JakartaPost




SCS heat meh....

 

[nufix]

i already posted this in the previous page mas bro post number #430

sori kalo gitu.