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When Indonesia government asked about more foreign join development in defense industry, then you need to bring mirror first. Do you actually do your commitment when the joint development requires large investment like KF21/IFX program and patiently do your work to set aside the budget for multiple years while the industry (Indonesian Aerospace) will do the engineering job...
Many will be reluctant to conduct join development program with Indonesia if they see what happened in KF21/IFX program when the change in government makes the support changes too....Do not see whether Demokrat party who initiate it is now in opposition seats, there will be no continuation for big project if you act like that, now we can see Nusantara project can be jeopardized if the opposition like Demokrat party took control, so dont make it become behavior in our politics, long term project should be continued and supported, regardless who will be in power....
After the deal is reached in 2021 November, now the ball is in Defense Ministry, the payment for KF21/IFX program should come from this Ministry, so if once again Indonesia cannot pay its financial obligation or pay it much less than it should be, so the blame now will be in Prabowo...Does Prabowo has more focus on importing or investing in our own defense industry program ?
Indonesia is still relatively peace for 15-20 years to come, none wanting to invade us, fourth largest country in population in the world with nominal GDP number 16, relatively constant growth of 5-6 % with prudent economic policy and largest coal and CPO exporters in the world.....Basically we are the Giant in our region (SEA). Both US and China wants to be friend of us instead of their enemy since we practice our free and active foreign policy and put us on the middle and with independent foreign policy.
So when we have this peace period, invest more on our own defense industry rather than using the money for importing defence product from other country. Hopefully we can be self sufficient some day if we focus on long term development of our own local defense industry. Person in government who always talk about war war can be judged as person who just want to trick us to use the money for importing stuff (pengadaan).
Country like Indonesia should not dream to keep importing defense product until the end of time, we have capacity to be another USA and China with this 270 million people and large territory plus hard working people, if we only have 5 % genious among 270 million people than I believe it is very achievable to have such ambition, particularly if we give those genious opportunity and support. Just like in KF21 program, do we support the engineers or not ? For years they basically work in limbo
Many corrupt practice have been revealed when person in Ministry want to import thing, like importing rice, sugar, meat, defence product (AW101 heli, Hawk 100/200, Sukhoi 30- many see there are mark up on those acquisition), etc
Even they prefer Korean company to provide them with communication stuff when LEN Industry has just set up factory to make that stuff...
The raise of Rome is because of self discipline, long term vision of leader, big ambition, and the unity of the people and the leaders (beside the help of God), and the fall of Rome is because of corruption and division among them...
Many will be reluctant to conduct join development program with Indonesia if they see what happened in KF21/IFX program when the change in government makes the support changes too....Do not see whether Demokrat party who initiate it is now in opposition seats, there will be no continuation for big project if you act like that, now we can see Nusantara project can be jeopardized if the opposition like Demokrat party took control, so dont make it become behavior in our politics, long term project should be continued and supported, regardless who will be in power....
After the deal is reached in 2021 November, now the ball is in Defense Ministry, the payment for KF21/IFX program should come from this Ministry, so if once again Indonesia cannot pay its financial obligation or pay it much less than it should be, so the blame now will be in Prabowo...Does Prabowo has more focus on importing or investing in our own defense industry program ?
Indonesia is still relatively peace for 15-20 years to come, none wanting to invade us, fourth largest country in population in the world with nominal GDP number 16, relatively constant growth of 5-6 % with prudent economic policy and largest coal and CPO exporters in the world.....Basically we are the Giant in our region (SEA). Both US and China wants to be friend of us instead of their enemy since we practice our free and active foreign policy and put us on the middle and with independent foreign policy.
So when we have this peace period, invest more on our own defense industry rather than using the money for importing defence product from other country. Hopefully we can be self sufficient some day if we focus on long term development of our own local defense industry. Person in government who always talk about war war can be judged as person who just want to trick us to use the money for importing stuff (pengadaan).
Country like Indonesia should not dream to keep importing defense product until the end of time, we have capacity to be another USA and China with this 270 million people and large territory plus hard working people, if we only have 5 % genious among 270 million people than I believe it is very achievable to have such ambition, particularly if we give those genious opportunity and support. Just like in KF21 program, do we support the engineers or not ? For years they basically work in limbo
Many corrupt practice have been revealed when person in Ministry want to import thing, like importing rice, sugar, meat, defence product (AW101 heli, Hawk 100/200, Sukhoi 30- many see there are mark up on those acquisition), etc
Even they prefer Korean company to provide them with communication stuff when LEN Industry has just set up factory to make that stuff...
The raise of Rome is because of self discipline, long term vision of leader, big ambition, and the unity of the people and the leaders (beside the help of God), and the fall of Rome is because of corruption and division among them...
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Arquus and PT Pindad present the ANOA 3 at Indodefense 2022
French leader of military mobility solutions Arquus is exhibiting at Indodefense 2022, the first edition since 2018. Arquus is eager to renew its commitment to Indonesian defense and to strengthen its ties with major Indonesian Defense companies such as Arquus’ long-term partner PT Pindad.
Engaging with Indonesian forces
On the occasion, Arquus is proud to present a VAB MK3 APC (Armored Personnel Carrier) on Defend ID’s booth, under Arquus’ partner, state-owned company PT Pindad’s flag. The VAB MK3 is exhibited in a configuration specifically thought for Indonesia, with several adaptations conducted by PT Pindad: the ANOA 3.
That modern, well-protected and equipped APC showcases Arquus’ and PT Pindad’s joint cooperation to meet the needs of the Indonesian army and law enforcement units. Already in service and combat-proven in various armies around the world, the VAB MK3 is Arquus’ flagship on the 6x6 market. It is a modern, NATO-compliant vehicle that Arquus constantly upgrades to better answer the operational needs of the operators on the battlefield.
The VAB MK3 is a very agile and well protected vehicle, which can serve as an APC or an IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) depending on the mission at hand. Its very compact architecture and low silhouette makes it a vehicle very well adapted to high-intensity conflicts against opponents equipped with multiple reconnaissance and aggression solutions. This concept proves once again its validity as modern combat vehicles tend to grow taller and bigger, which increases their visual signature on the battlefield.
Arquus also presents large-scale models for VAB MK3, Bastion and Fortress on its booth, to showcase its complete range of defense and security vehicles, as well as its ability to partner with companies on the long run. Such a cooperation can include vehicle design, production, support and upgrade during the whole life of the equipment to fully answer the evolution of the operational needs.
ARQUUS & PT PINDAD : 15 YEARS OF TECHNICAL & INDUSTRIAL PARTNERSHIP
Arquus and PT Pindad have been running a long-term and successful relationship over the past 15 years. Throughout these years, Arquus has been supplying PT Pindad with major components and parts which have been integrated in Indonesian-made armored vehicles.
In the framework of that cooperation, Arquus has notably supplied powerpacks for ANOA 6x6 APC vehicles and BADAK 6x6 IFV, currently serving in the Indonesian Army. Arquus has also supplied rolling chassis for the KOMODO 4x4 multipurpose vehicle.
At Indodefense 2022, Arquus and PT Pindad renew their partnership, which has been running successfully for 15 years and has been recently completed by a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed at Eurosatory 2022 in Paris to establish future collaboration in land systems for Indonesia. This MoU covers the development and production of new armored vehicles, as well as corresponding systems and services. With this agreement, both companies agreed to turn an exemplary relationship into an official, and larger scale partnership.
The aim of this MoU is to cooperate in the field of military vehicles and systems to address the current needs of the Indonesian Armed Forces. Such cooperation will cover multi-purpose armored vehicles, reconnaissance vehicles, APC and IFV, as well as remote-controlled weapon stations. It could also include development, product qualification, production and assembly, plus aftersales services.
On top of its long-running relationship with PT Pindad, and the hundreds of ANOA, BADAK and KOMODO armored vehicles proudly serving daily, Arquus is a major supplier for the Indonesian Army. Arquus has indeed produced and delivered a total of 80 vehicles directly to the Ministry of Defense, including VAB, VBL and Sherpa Light vehicles in various configurations.
That cooperation could go further in case of new needs, with 4x4 and 6x6 vehicles, both for Defense and Security needs, as well as corresponding services and systems, such as drivelines and mobility elements or RCWS (Remote-Controlled Weapon Stations) such as the Hornet range, already in service within the French Army. Arquus is looking forward to developing its relationship with Indonesia.
French leader of military mobility solutions Arquus is exhibiting at Indodefense 2022, the first edition since 2018. Arquus is eager to renew its commitment to Indonesian defense and to strengthen its ties with major Indonesian Defense companies such as Arquus’ long-term partner PT Pindad.
Engaging with Indonesian forces
On the occasion, Arquus is proud to present a VAB MK3 APC (Armored Personnel Carrier) on Defend ID’s booth, under Arquus’ partner, state-owned company PT Pindad’s flag. The VAB MK3 is exhibited in a configuration specifically thought for Indonesia, with several adaptations conducted by PT Pindad: the ANOA 3.
That modern, well-protected and equipped APC showcases Arquus’ and PT Pindad’s joint cooperation to meet the needs of the Indonesian army and law enforcement units. Already in service and combat-proven in various armies around the world, the VAB MK3 is Arquus’ flagship on the 6x6 market. It is a modern, NATO-compliant vehicle that Arquus constantly upgrades to better answer the operational needs of the operators on the battlefield.
The VAB MK3 is a very agile and well protected vehicle, which can serve as an APC or an IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) depending on the mission at hand. Its very compact architecture and low silhouette makes it a vehicle very well adapted to high-intensity conflicts against opponents equipped with multiple reconnaissance and aggression solutions. This concept proves once again its validity as modern combat vehicles tend to grow taller and bigger, which increases their visual signature on the battlefield.
Arquus also presents large-scale models for VAB MK3, Bastion and Fortress on its booth, to showcase its complete range of defense and security vehicles, as well as its ability to partner with companies on the long run. Such a cooperation can include vehicle design, production, support and upgrade during the whole life of the equipment to fully answer the evolution of the operational needs.
ARQUUS & PT PINDAD : 15 YEARS OF TECHNICAL & INDUSTRIAL PARTNERSHIP
Arquus and PT Pindad have been running a long-term and successful relationship over the past 15 years. Throughout these years, Arquus has been supplying PT Pindad with major components and parts which have been integrated in Indonesian-made armored vehicles.
In the framework of that cooperation, Arquus has notably supplied powerpacks for ANOA 6x6 APC vehicles and BADAK 6x6 IFV, currently serving in the Indonesian Army. Arquus has also supplied rolling chassis for the KOMODO 4x4 multipurpose vehicle.
At Indodefense 2022, Arquus and PT Pindad renew their partnership, which has been running successfully for 15 years and has been recently completed by a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed at Eurosatory 2022 in Paris to establish future collaboration in land systems for Indonesia. This MoU covers the development and production of new armored vehicles, as well as corresponding systems and services. With this agreement, both companies agreed to turn an exemplary relationship into an official, and larger scale partnership.
The aim of this MoU is to cooperate in the field of military vehicles and systems to address the current needs of the Indonesian Armed Forces. Such cooperation will cover multi-purpose armored vehicles, reconnaissance vehicles, APC and IFV, as well as remote-controlled weapon stations. It could also include development, product qualification, production and assembly, plus aftersales services.
On top of its long-running relationship with PT Pindad, and the hundreds of ANOA, BADAK and KOMODO armored vehicles proudly serving daily, Arquus is a major supplier for the Indonesian Army. Arquus has indeed produced and delivered a total of 80 vehicles directly to the Ministry of Defense, including VAB, VBL and Sherpa Light vehicles in various configurations.
That cooperation could go further in case of new needs, with 4x4 and 6x6 vehicles, both for Defense and Security needs, as well as corresponding services and systems, such as drivelines and mobility elements or RCWS (Remote-Controlled Weapon Stations) such as the Hornet range, already in service within the French Army. Arquus is looking forward to developing its relationship with Indonesia.
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ADVENT Contract from HAVELSAN in Indonesia
The ADVENT Combat Management System (SYS), developed with national resources, will be made available to the Indonesian Navy. For this purpose, the contract was signed during Indo Defense 2022.Turkey's national war management system, ADVENT, sails to new horizons. According to the information obtained by SavunmaSanayiST.com; HAVELSAN signed a contract for the export of ADVENT SYS to the Indonesian Navy during the Indo Defense 2022 Fair.
The contract in question includes ADVENT integration to 3 KCR-60 Class Ships and 2 Offshore Patrol Ships. In this direction; Within the scope of the contract signed by PT TESCO and the Indonesian Ministry of Defense, ADVENT will be integrated into 3 KCR-60 Class Ships.
Again, within the scope of the contract signed by DRU Shipyard and the Indonesian Ministry of Defense, ADVENT will be integrated into 2 Offshore Patrol Ships.
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KHAN and Air Defense Contract in Indonesia from Roketsan
Roketsan signed a contract for KHAN Land-to-Land Ballistic Missile System and Air Defense Missile System to Indonesia during the Indo Defense FairIndo Defense 2022 Defense Industry Fair, held in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, opened its doors today. Being the foreign country that participated in the fair with the highest number of companies, Turkey signed important agreements with Indonesian authorities.
In this context, a contract was signed for the KHAN Land to Land Ballistic Missile System and Air Defense Missile System developed by Roketsan. While the offer was submitted by Roketsan to the main contractor Excalibur, it was learned that the loan to Indonesian authorities will be provided by Czech Eximbank. A contract was signed with the Indonesian Ministry of Defense for the sale by the main contractor Excalibur.
In terms of weapon systems and ammunition, Excalibur signed a subcontractor contract with Roketsan in September 2021. The contract is scheduled to enter into force in 2022. With the contract, Roketsan's KHAN and Air Defense Missile System will be delivered to the Indonesian Army within the scope of the project, for which Czech Excalibur is the main contractor.
(The Air Defense Missile System in question was mistakenly written as HİSAR. The system is provided as a layered air defense system.)
KHAN Ballistic Missile System
KHAN, the export version of the Roketsan-manufactured BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile System, has a range of 280 kilometers.
The missile is launched from the Roketsan-manufactured BORA Weapon System 8×8 Tactical Wheeled Vehicle and the Roketsan Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher Weapon System. It can also be launched from other Tactical Wheeled Vehicle platforms with an interface suitable for integration in line with user needs.
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ALHAMDULILLAH
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The KF-21 fighter aircraft (pictured above), which is being developed by South Korea and Indonesia, made its first flight in July 2022. Indonesia has restarted payments on the programme following a pause in 2019. (Korea Aerospace Industries)
Indonesia has restarted payments to South Korea for its involvement in the programme to develop the KF-21 Boramae multirole fighter aircraft, earlier known as the KF-X.
A source with knowledge of the matter told Janes on 3 November, “On 1 November, Indonesia paid part of the KF-X development cost. The amount is KRW9.41 billion (USD6.63 million).”
Janes understands that the KF-21 repayment – the first that Indonesia has made to South Korea in three years – follows several rounds of bilateral talks that concluded in November 2021.
South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) has said that under this agreement, Indonesia will recommit to funding 20% of the KF-21 development costs till 2026, with about 30% of this contribution to be paid ‘in kind', meaning commodities and other goods. Details about repayments beyond 2026 have not been disclosed.
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JAKARTA, Nov. 2 (Yonhap) -- Indonesia has resumed payment for its share of the cost for a joint fighter development project with South Korea, an informed source said Wednesday, nearly four years after Jakarta stopped its payments.
Indonesia's Ministry of Defense made a payment of 9.4 billion won (US$6.6 million) to the South Korean government the previous day for the development project of the KF-21 jet, the source said.
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Indonesia restarts KF-21 repayments to South Korea
03 NOVEMBER 2022by Jon Grevatt
The KF-21 fighter aircraft (pictured above), which is being developed by South Korea and Indonesia, made its first flight in July 2022. Indonesia has restarted payments on the programme following a pause in 2019. (Korea Aerospace Industries)
Indonesia has restarted payments to South Korea for its involvement in the programme to develop the KF-21 Boramae multirole fighter aircraft, earlier known as the KF-X.
A source with knowledge of the matter told Janes on 3 November, “On 1 November, Indonesia paid part of the KF-X development cost. The amount is KRW9.41 billion (USD6.63 million).”
Janes understands that the KF-21 repayment – the first that Indonesia has made to South Korea in three years – follows several rounds of bilateral talks that concluded in November 2021.
South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) has said that under this agreement, Indonesia will recommit to funding 20% of the KF-21 development costs till 2026, with about 30% of this contribution to be paid ‘in kind', meaning commodities and other goods. Details about repayments beyond 2026 have not been disclosed.
Indonesia restarts KF-21 repayments to South Korea
Indonesia has restarted payments to South Korea for its involvement in the programme to develop the KF-21 Boramae multirole fighter aircraft, earlier known as the KF-X.
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JAKARTA, Nov. 2 (Yonhap) -- Indonesia has resumed payment for its share of the cost for a joint fighter development project with South Korea, an informed source said Wednesday, nearly four years after Jakarta stopped its payments.
Indonesia's Ministry of Defense made a payment of 9.4 billion won (US$6.6 million) to the South Korean government the previous day for the development project of the KF-21 jet, the source said.
Indonesia resumes payment for joint fighter development project with S. Korea | Yonhap News Agency
JAKARTA, Nov. 2 (Yonhap) -- Indonesia has resumed payment for its share of the cost for a ...
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I dont know why people keep saying MALE UCAV Elang Hitam project is onhold and cancel ? That is not thing that is stated by BRIN Director. BRIN will develop civilian version first of the drone and basically the same design right ?
Based on BRIN sources, they want to develop flight control and mission system in Indonesia. Understandable as N219 uses Indonesian Aerospace flight control system and now MALE UCAV under Indonesian Aerospace program.
We should not give our valuable wind tunnel test data to European country to develop the flight control system of Elang Hitam, that is stupid idea, they can sell it to other countries secretly
The valuable data made in wind tunnel test for years than can be used to make the flight control system of our self for Elang Hitam
Based on BRIN sources, they want to develop flight control and mission system in Indonesia. Understandable as N219 uses Indonesian Aerospace flight control system and now MALE UCAV under Indonesian Aerospace program.
We should not give our valuable wind tunnel test data to European country to develop the flight control system of Elang Hitam, that is stupid idea, they can sell it to other countries secretly
The valuable data made in wind tunnel test for years than can be used to make the flight control system of our self for Elang Hitam
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Indo Defence 2022: India secures first contract for naval guns with Indonesia
Larsen & Toubro (L&T) has secured a contract to deliver 40 mm naval gun systems to the Indonesian Navy, which marks the first-ever export of the weapon system from India to Indonesia.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, two sources at the Indo Defence 2022 exhibition, being held in Jakarta, from 2 to 5 November, have confirmed with Janes that L&T will supply the company's Teevra 40 system and the weapon will go onboard one of the Indonesian Navy's Teluk Bintuni-class landing ships.
A contract for the weapons was signed with the Indonesian Navy on 14 October 2022, and it covers the delivery of two Teevra 40 units. L&T will work with Indonesian defence firm BTI Defence on the contract, and the latter will provide after-sales service for the weapon system while it is operational.
The sources are not able to name the exact ship that will receive these weapon systems.
The Teevra 40 is a naval gun system that has a maximum range of about 11,800 m. For surface targets, it has an effective range of about 3,500 m while for aerial targets, the effective range is about 4,500 m. It can fire various 40 mm/L70 standard NATO rounds.
The weapon features five firing modes, namely, the single-shot mode, the full auto mode, the three-shot burst, and the five-shot burst. In addition, the system also has a warning shot mode, which keeps the gun's targeting cross-hairs on the objective but firing projectiles away at a predetermined safe distance
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L&T Teevra 40 and Trident 40 Naval Weapon Systems Product Presentation
08 September 2021With the emerging needs of naval and coastal defence, gun is a vital part of a ship's self-defense against hostile surface vessels, attack aircraft, anti-ship missiles and shore targets. In the littoral scenario, the gun must be able to engage threats that are impossible to address with conventional gun systems.
Answering the challenging situation, BTI Defence introduces Teevra and Trident Weapon System 40 mm to TNI-AL in Jakarta on Tuesday, 7th September, 2021, attended by Secretary of DISSENLEKAL, KASUBDIS INDALSEN, and Officers from SKOMLEKAL, and also as honourable invitation Indian Defense Attache , Captain Amitabh Saxena.
L&T Defence solutions encompass land-based weapon systems, air defence and artillery systems and upgrades, naval weapon launch systems with fire-control systems, combat engineering systems, communication, avionics, C4I and missile systems. L&T design and builds critical aerospace components, tracking and launch systems for space missions as well as for the Armed Forces.
BTI Defence is an Authorized Partner of L&T Defence, a company with current product range, built largely through in-house R&D, includes land based weapon launch systems, air defence and artillery systems and upgrades, patrol vessels, warships, submarines, naval weapon launch systems with fire control solutions, bridging systems, communication.
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The figure of 6.63 million USD is quite match with one Korean media stated around 2-3 weeks ago, so based on that Korean media (Naver), Indonesia will likely pay 30 million USD in 2023.
I am not surprised if the payment become 200-300 million USD in 2024 as now Indonesia government has been quite firm in continuing the program until the end of development which actually has already been confirmed by statement made by Korean President when he met Jokowi in July 2022 and also by Defense Minister office. This includes Prabowo statement saying Indonesia will build fighter jet five years from now and his deputy statement recently saying KF21 will be the only Indonesia choice for MRCA after 2025.
Well, Indonesia has already had law that prohibit foreign defense equipment to be bought if local firm can make it. The law has huge parliamentary support and has already become law since 2009, during SBY administration. KF21 program has already been backed by law, not easy for any future President not to choose the plane for Indonesia MRCA needs. Even the user, Indonesian Air Force, has choosen the plane for future Indonesian MRCA squadrons based on previous presentation by Indonesian Air Force.
Based on leaked document, In 2021, Prabowo wanted to finance the program through long term loan, but Minister of Planning reject the idea, so it is reasonable we see this 6.6 million USD payment figure. As now foreign minister office is included on the payment discussion of KF 21 program, so I hope it will be much easier in the future for much larger payment as Bu Retno is basically old friend of our Finance Minister, Sri Mulyani Indrawati, and she understands the important of this program for both nations strategic relationship.
Now Bu Sri has raised more tax to cigarette sales, more money for state budget then, furthermore the cut of subsidy for fuel will likely give much fund for next year government budget.
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