Indonesia Defence Forum

[Indos]

Okay, to match the previous post and Indian Brahmos Thread last night, so I will bring our old video of Indonesian Yakhont Missile Testing about 2 years ago

This missile is deathly and large as well.

 

[katarabhumi]

@Indos , I heard it's been postponed due to crisis in Ukraine.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

@Indos , I heard it's been postponed due to crisis in Ukraine.

Just like the procurement of BTR 80 for Marine Corps, our Ministry of Defense has canceled the program due to Ukraine-Russia crisis.

 

[Indos]

@Indos , I heard it's been postponed due to crisis in Ukraine.

Well, the cooperation has been started since 2012, but even though the cooperation is postponed, I believe RX-550 can still be tested this year if LAPAN can fix the nosel problem. As we know, we started this program alone with our own design. Ukraine did helped us, but without Ukraine I believe we still can continue, insyaALLAH.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

..Blessed are the peacemakers
Pics of Indonesian police contingent in Darfur - Sudan.
Serving humanitarian duties in diversity.

Breaking the Fast on patrol during Ramadhan

Soldiers breaking the fast at Indonesian HQ

Indonesian Christian quarters at the Base

Indonesian Hindu quarters at the Base

 

[athlon]

Indonesian air force to build air base in West Kalimantan
Mon, June 9 2014 22:23 |

From the Supadio Air Base, Sudipo and entourage went straight to Temajuk to check the location for the air base of type C.

"We have come to Sambas to check the truth of the alleged construction of a lighthouse in the border area. By doing so, they (Malaysia) know that we will not remain silent to defend the sovereignty of our state," he said.

Is it really to keep Malaysia's naughtiness out? How about the SCS' s issue?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Is it really to keep Malaysia's naughtiness out? How about the SCS' s issue?

SCS kan udah lanud di Riau. This is to stop the evil Malaysian from encroaching our territory.

 

[athlon]

SCS kan udah lanud di Riau. This is to stop the evil Malaysian from encroaching our territory.

You are aware that SCS's issue have bigger threat potency, aren't you?
When it is rollin' into our frontyard, even our so-called evil neighbour wouldn't matter anymore.
Hopefully not..

 

[DarkElf]

You are aware that SCS's issue have bigger threat potency, aren't you?
When it is rollin' into our frontyard, even our so-called evil neighbour wouldn't matter anymore.
Hopefully not..

There's no good thief in this story. The big one secretly aiming at our Natuna ZEE, the so-called evil neighbour even more greedy, already managed to annex our islands directly and now aiming 2'nd expansion on our border land + ZEE.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

There's no good thief in this story. The big one secretly aiming at our Natuna ZEE, the so-called evil neighbour even more greedy, already managed to annex our islands directly and now aiming 2'nd expansion on our border land + ZEE.

He who defends everything, defends nothing - Frederick The Second of The Holy Roman Empire

So we better have priority in this case.
Our ZEE disputes with the great dragon should be contained in negotiation table. And right now China is busy ramming ships with Vietnam and staring eye to eye with US backed Philippines in Shoal.
If china decides to use the full mights of her Navy and Air force against us, we will lose some of our ZEE (unlikely to happen in near future).
But we can surely holds our own against our little brother Malaysia.
And Malaysia not only claim some stretch of our ZEE waters, they already annexed and trying to grab more island and territorial there. So better we prepare to give maximum punishment to them since we are more than able to do that.

 

[Nike]

He who defends everything, defends nothing - Frederick The Second of The Holy Roman Empire

So we better have priority in this case.
Our ZEE disputes with the great dragon should be contained in negotiation table. And right now China is busy ramming ships with Vietnam and staring eye to eye with US backed Philippines in Shoal.
If china decides to use the full mights of her Navy and Air force against us, we will lose some of our ZEE (unlikely to happen in near future).
But we can surely holds our own against our little brother Malaysia.
And Malaysia not only claim some stretch of our ZEE waters, they already annexed and trying to grab more island and territorial there. So better we prepare to give maximum punishment to them since we are more than able to do that.

Both of them are equally dangerous, Malaysia right now they can be intimidated with our sheer power, China?

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Both of them are equally dangerous, Malaysia right now they can be intimidated with our sheer power, China?

Thats why iam talking about priority.
Since we are no match for China in military power, we better stick to diplomation path in solving the disputes.
If we want to be more tactical, there is US oil company and lots of US interest in our ZEE so there are more in stake for China if they choose the military option in solving the disputes with us.

But for our territorial disputes with Malaysia, we have the capability to stop them with our own. Thats why we must put the Malaysian threat as first priority.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Chinese, Indonesian vessels hold first drill under new naval code of conduct
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
09 June 2014

Ships from the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) carried out drills of a newly ratified naval code with a vessel from the Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL) on 7 June during a PLAN visit to Indonesia.

The Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), was ratified unanimously by 25 Asia-Pacific countries at the 14th Western Pacific Naval Symposium (WPNS) held in China earlier this year. The protocol aims to improve communication at sea to prevent maritime tensions from flaring into conflict and consists of standardised phrases for naval ships and aircraft to use in unexpected encounters.

Chinese, Indonesian vessels hold first drill under new naval code of conduct - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Nike]

He who defends everything, defends nothing - Frederick The Second of The Holy Roman Empire

So we better have priority in this case.
Our ZEE disputes with the great dragon should be contained in negotiation table. And right now China is busy ramming ships with Vietnam and staring eye to eye with US backed Philippines in Shoal.
If china decides to use the full mights of her Navy and Air force against us, we will lose some of our ZEE (unlikely to happen in near future).
But we can surely holds our own against our little brother Malaysia.
And Malaysia not only claim some stretch of our ZEE waters, they already annexed and trying to grab more island and territorial there. So better we prepare to give maximum punishment to them since we are more than able to do that.

Both of them are equally dangerous, Malaysia right now they can be intim

Thats why iam talking about priority.
Since we are no match for China in military power, we better stick to diplomation path in solving the disputes.
If we want to be more tactical, there is US oil company and lots of US interest in our ZEE so there are more in stake for China if they choose the military option in solving the disputes with us.

But for our territorial disputes with Malaysia, we have the capability to stop them with our own. Thats why we must put the Malaysian threat as first priority.

muahahaha, if you got much power in your side and half of East Asia economy at your behalf do you think they want to sit down in negotiation table with us? think twice, which country can be detered against at negotiations table and which one is cannot

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

muahahaha, if you got much power in your side and half of East Asia economy at your behalf do you think they want to sit down in negotiation table with us? think twice, which country can be detered against at negotiations table and which one is cannot

Any other option than using all our diplomatic channel?
You are missing my point here, he who defends everything - defends nothing.
Whats the point of massing our limited naval sources in a conflict we cannot win?
Better we use them to avoid more territorial grab from Malaysia.
You forgot the US factor in this case, US have interest on the rich natural gas resource there, we need to hold them in negotiation table and keep our neutrality in Vietnam and Philippines case against China. At the end of the day they need us supporting their influence in this region.
China not yet a regional hegemony in Asia, strong US military presence and backup in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan dan Philippines are they main obstacle to achieve that status. In South East Asia, only Indonesia have the capability to become their mediator and tactical ally in this case (Vietnam is mortal enemy, Philippines still living in Cold War paradigm with Western power as hero and savior and Communism as the great Evil, while Malaysia and Singapore surely belongs to their rival side).
The deeper penetration of China military force in South East Asia, the stronger support we can get from US and Australia. Thats why Australia keep sending us money regardless how many illegal immigrants boats we let pass to Australia.
We need to play our cards well, thats why mass deployment of military assets in Natuna waters will only provoke more frontal reaction from China.

Thats my point of view, now whats yours?
If negotiation and diplomatic approach not an option are you suggesting us to start the ramming ship circus like what happen to Vietnam?