Indonesia Defence Forum

[Satria Manggala]

Turkish, German firms eye Indonesian sub contract

ISTANBUL — Turkish and German naval specialists signed May 10 a letter of intent to cooperate on a contract to build variant of the Type-214 diesel-electric submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

The deal was signed at the IDEF’17 defense and aerospace exhibition in Istanbul between STM, a Turkish government-controlled defense engineering company and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

“We are bringing together our resources with the aim of designing and constructing submarines for Indonesia,” STM and TKMS official said during a ceremony.

Through the joint venture with STM, TKMS is partnering with Turkey’s Golcuk shipyard, the production site for the Piri Reis, the first of a batch of six Type-214 submarines being built for the Turkish Navy. The Type 214 is a derivation of the Type-209 SSK built by Germany’s Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW. The Type-214 features design innovations from the HDW Type-212. It displaces 1,700 tons (surface) and has eight torpedo tubes which can deploy heavyweight torpedoes — such as the Atlas Elektronik SeaHake — and anti-ship missiles, such as the Harpoon and Exocet.

Under a contract worth €2.5 billion (U.S. $2.7 billion), six Type-214 submarines are being built for the Turkish Navy. Some of the subsystems will be locally built.

For instance, Turkish military electronics specialist Aselsan, a government-controlled company, will provide electronic support measures and sensor systems for the submarine program. Military software specialist Havelsan, another government-controlled company, will build an integrated command and control suite.

According to the Turkish-German letter of intent, the first one or two of the planned submarines for the Indonesian Navy will be built at a Turkish shipyard. The follow-on platforms would be built in Indonesia.


http://www.defensenews.com/articles/turkish-german-firms-eye-indonesian-sub-contract

 

[Satria Manggala]

 

[patu]

Turkish, German firms eye Indonesian sub contract

Turkish, German firms eye Indonesian sub contract

ISTANBUL — Turkish and German naval specialists signed May 10 a letter of intent to cooperate on a contract to build variant of the Type-214 diesel-electric submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

The deal was signed at the IDEF’17 defense and aerospace exhibition in Istanbul between STM, a Turkish government-controlled defense engineering company and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

“We are bringing together our resources with the aim of designing and constructing submarines for Indonesia,” STM and TKMS official said during a ceremony.

Through the joint venture with STM, TKMS is partnering with Turkey’s Golcuk shipyard, the production site for the Piri Reis, the first of a batch of six Type-214 submarines being built for the Turkish Navy. The Type 214 is a derivation of the Type-209 SSK built by Germany’s Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW. The Type-214 features design innovations from the HDW Type-212. It displaces 1,700 tons (surface) and has eight torpedo tubes which can deploy heavyweight torpedoes — such as the Atlas Elektronik SeaHake — and anti-ship missiles, such as the Harpoon and Exocet.

Under a contract worth €2.5 billion (U.S. $2.7 billion), six Type-214 submarines are being built for the Turkish Navy. Some of the subsystems will be locally built.

For instance, Turkish military electronics specialist Aselsan, a government-controlled company, will provide electronic support measures and sensor systems for the submarine program. Military software specialist Havelsan, another government-controlled company, will build an integrated command and control suite.

According to the Turkish-German letter of intent, the first one or two of the planned submarines for the Indonesian Navy will be built at a Turkish shipyard. The follow-on platforms would be built in Indonesia.


http://www.defensenews.com/articles/turkish-german-firms-eye-indonesian-sub-contract

Turkish, German firms eye Indonesian sub contract

ISTANBUL — Turkish and German naval specialists signed May 10 a letter of intent to cooperate on a contract to build variant of the Type-214 diesel-electric submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

The deal was signed at the IDEF’17 defense and aerospace exhibition in Istanbul between STM, a Turkish government-controlled defense engineering company and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

“We are bringing together our resources with the aim of designing and constructing submarines for Indonesia,” STM and TKMS official said during a ceremony.

Through the joint venture with STM, TKMS is partnering with Turkey’s Golcuk shipyard, the production site for the Piri Reis, the first of a batch of six Type-214 submarines being built for the Turkish Navy. The Type 214 is a derivation of the Type-209 SSK built by Germany’s Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW. The Type-214 features design innovations from the HDW Type-212. It displaces 1,700 tons (surface) and has eight torpedo tubes which can deploy heavyweight torpedoes — such as the Atlas Elektronik SeaHake — and anti-ship missiles, such as the Harpoon and Exocet.

Under a contract worth €2.5 billion (U.S. $2.7 billion), six Type-214 submarines are being built for the Turkish Navy. Some of the subsystems will be locally built.

For instance, Turkish military electronics specialist Aselsan, a government-controlled company, will provide electronic support measures and sensor systems for the submarine program. Military software specialist Havelsan, another government-controlled company, will build an integrated command and control suite.

According to the Turkish-German letter of intent, the first one or two of the planned submarines for the Indonesian Navy will be built at a Turkish shipyard. The follow-on platforms would be built in Indonesia.


http://www.defensenews.com/articles/turkish-german-firms-eye-indonesian-sub-contract

ISTANBUL — Turkish and German naval specialists signed May 10 a letter of intent to cooperate on a contract to build variant of the Type-214 diesel-electric submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

The deal was signed at the IDEF’17 defense and aerospace exhibition in Istanbul between STM, a Turkish government-controlled defense engineering company and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

“We are bringing together our resources with the aim of designing and constructing submarines for Indonesia,” STM and TKMS official said during a ceremony.

Through the joint venture with STM, TKMS is partnering with Turkey’s Golcuk shipyard, the production site for the Piri Reis, the first of a batch of six Type-214 submarines being built for the Turkish Navy. The Type 214 is a derivation of the Type-209 SSK built by Germany’s Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW. The Type-214 features design innovations from the HDW Type-212. It displaces 1,700 tons (surface) and has eight torpedo tubes which can deploy heavyweight torpedoes — such as the Atlas Elektronik SeaHake — and anti-ship missiles, such as the Harpoon and Exocet.

Under a contract worth €2.5 billion (U.S. $2.7 billion), six Type-214 submarines are being built for the Turkish Navy. Some of the subsystems will be locally built.

For instance, Turkish military electronics specialist Aselsan, a government-controlled company, will provide electronic support measures and sensor systems for the submarine program. Military software specialist Havelsan, another government-controlled company, will build an integrated command and control suite.

According to the Turkish-German letter of intent, the first one or two of the planned submarines for the Indonesian Navy will be built at a Turkish shipyard. The follow-on platforms would be built in Indonesia.


http://www.defensenews.com/articles/turkish-german-firms-eye-indonesian-sub-contract

Good job, these subs will boast up our subs power!
How many subs will we aquerre?

 

[Satria Manggala]

KAPLAN MT

http://www.fnss.com.tr/en/product/kaplan-mt

 

[caksakerah]

KAPLAN MT

Rantainya sekilas berbeda dgn yg didisplay.

 

[Satria Manggala]

Rantainya sekilas berbeda dgn yg didisplay.

betul .. kayanya nanti medium tank Pindad pake rantai buatan depok ..

Rantai Tank Kelas Dunia dari Depok

Geladi bersih HUT Ke-70 Tentara Nasional Indonesia di Dermaga Indah Kiat, Cilegon, Banten, Sabtu (3/10/2015).(KOMPAS.com / KRISTIANTO PURNOMO)

JAKARTA, KOMPAS - Sederetan tank angkut amfibi Marinir TNI Angkatan Laut terjun dari dermaga ke Selat Sunda di Cilegon, Banten, Senin (5/10/2015). Tank-tank tersebut melaju dengan kecepatan tinggi, lalu menghunjamkan diri ke laut dari ketinggian 5 meter lebih. Rantai tank tetap utuh....

Sebelumnya, defile tank tempur utama M2A-4 Marder, kendaraan tempur pengangkut pasukan M-113 dan IFV Marder, serta Anoa, lalu tank Marini BMP-3 juga melintas melaju di depan panggung kehormatan tempat Presiden Joko Widodo dan Panglima TNI Jenderal Gatot Nurmantyo berdiri. Semua tank tersebut menggunakan rantai dan sebagian roda, ban dan penggerak, serta suspensinya dibuat di sebuah bengkel kerja di Cilodong, Depok, Jawa Barat.

Edi Suyanto, pendiri Indo Pulley, adalah sosok di balik produksi rantai tank buatan dalam negeri tersebut. Kemudian, lima tahun lalu dia mulai memproduksi rantai tank AMX-13 buatan Prancis yang jumlahnya 600 unit lebih digunakan TNI.

"Waktu itu saya diminta KSAD Jenderal (TNI) Pramono Edhie untuk membuat rantai tank AMX. Setelah uji litbang TNI AD, dinyatakan lulus. Saya selanjutnya juga berinovasi membuat ban tahan peluru kaliber 7,62 milimeter. Ban itu bisa dikendarai hingga 120 kilometer setelah kempis. Lebih jauh dibandingkan standar NATO (Pakta Pertahanan Atlantik Utara) yang hanya bisa sejauh 20 kilometer setelah tertembak," kata Edi di Depok, Selasa (6/10).

Dia juga dilibatkan Kementerian Pertahanan untuk memproduksi rantai tank, serta sus-pensi dan roda tank untuk beberapa proyek kerja sama Kementerian Pertahanan dengan mitra asing.

Inovasi yang dilakukan Edi Suyanto juga menambah kemampuan kendaraan tempur. Misalnya, penambahan komponen karet pada rantai tank BMP-3 memungkinkan tank Marinir buatan Rusia itu melompat di landasan beton tanpa menyebabkan rantai terputus. Pada versi asli milik Rusia, rantai tank tersebut tidak memakai bantalan karet.

Harapan serupa dikemukakan Ricky Egam, pendiri PT Sari Bahari di Kota Malang, Jawa Timur. Ricky melalui Sari Bahari memproduksi bom latih, bom hidup, dan roket latih serta roket hidup yang digunakan TNI AU. Beberapa produknya sudah diekspor ke mancanegara, seperti kepala roket asap ke Cile dan AS tahun 2013.

Kepala roket asap ini dijadikan sarana berlatih pilot-pilot tempur angkatan bersenjata Cile. Kepala roket asap buatan Sari Bahari memiliki keunggulan mampu mengeluarkan asap selama 2 menit setelah terkena sasaran.

Produk lain hanya mampu mengeluarkan asap kurang dari 1 menit. Kepulan asap pasca ledakan sangat vital bagi pilot tempur, sebagai penanda bom yang ditembakkan tepat sasaran atau tidak.

"Saya salut, baru saja Kepala Staf TNI Angkatan Udara Marsekal Agus Supriatna meminta 10 perusahaan BUMN dan swasta untuk serius memasok kebutuhan TNI AU. Ini langkah maju," kata Ricky, yang mampu memproduksi puluhan ribu bom latih. Khusus bom latih jet tempur Sukhoi ukuran 100 kilogram, hanya diproduksi di Indonesia sehingga sangat potensial untuk diekspor.

Saat ini, Sari Bahari sedang mengembangkan rudal petir, yaitu rudal darat ke darat seberat 10 kilogram yang bisa melesat dengan kecepatan 250 kilometer per jam. Ditargetkan, tahun 2016 PT Sari Bahari sudah bisa mulai menjual produk tersebut.

Sari Bahari dibangun Ricky tahun 1993. Awalnya, perusahaan itu hanya melayani pengadaan barang dari badan usaha milik negara (BUMN) yang bergerak di bidang industri strategis (pertahanan). Barang yang disuplai Sari Bahari di antaranya beragam mesin dan suku cadang peralatan strategis militer.

"Perusahaan domestik sebenarnya memiliki kemampuan memproduksi alutsista untuk kepentingan pertahanan dalam negeri. Hanya, memang butuh niat baik pemerintah. Jika setiap periode kepemimpinan fokus pada upaya pemenuhan kebutuhan alutsista domestik, saya yakin perusahaan dalam negeri bisa memenuhinya. Kita bisa memenuhi kebutuhan alutsista tanpa harus selalu impor," kata Ricky.

TNI AU, misalnya, menurut Ricky, sudah mengambil langkah strategis dengan memberikan payung hukum bagi perusahaan dalam negeri untuk mengembangkan alutsista bagi kepentingan TNI AU. "Beberapa bulan lalu, Kepala Staf TNI AU Agus Supriatna menandatangani kesepakatan yang mengajak 10 rekanan, baik BUMN maupun BUMS (perusahaan swasta), untuk mengembangkan alutsista bersama-sama. Ini langkah baik mendukung pemenuhan kebutuhan alutsista oleh perusahaan dalam negeri," kata Ricky.

Proses pembuatan roda dan rantai tank serta ban anti peluru di bengkel milik Edy Suyanto (kanan) di Sidamukti, Cilodong, Depok, Jawa Barat, Selasa (6/10/2015). Di tempat tersebut berhasil dikembangkan berbagai produk rantai tank untuk varian tank AMX, BTR, Scorpion, Leopard, Marder, M-113, LVT-7AI, BMP3-F, dan ban tahan peluru untuk kendaraan angkut personel dan panser.(KOMPAS/HENDRA A SETYAWAN)

Kemandirian

Industri pertahanan dalam negeri yang menghasilkan alutsista perlu merangkul industri terkait lainnya demi mencapai kemandirian industri pertahanan nasional secara menyeluruh. Kunci untuk memajukan industri alutsista dalam negeri demi memperbaiki kondisi perekonomian terletak pada memajukan lini industri pendukungnya.

"Bicara unsur pertahanan, kita harus melihat jejaring industri sampai pada pendukungnya. Jangan sampai kita memajukan industri pertahanan, tetapi lini jejaring industrinya tidak terbangun dengan baik," kata Ketua Komisi I DPR dari Fraksi Partai Keadilan Sejahtera Mahfudz Siddiq di kompleks Parlemen, Senayan, Jakarta, Selasa (6/10).

Mahfudz mencontohkan industri baja untuk bahan baku pembuatan sejumlah alutsista, seperti badan tank atau kapal. Kalau industri baja tidak dikembangkan, tentu sulit memenuhi bahan baku. Hal itu menyebabkan sebagian produk industri pertahanan dalam negeri masih bergantung pada hasil impor.

Secara terpisah, Kepala Staf TNI Angkatan Laut Laksamana Ade Supandi menegaskan komitmen untuk menggunakan produk dalam negeri. "Kami memesan dari PT PAL dan sejumlah galangan kapal swasta di Batam, Lampung, Jakarta, hingga Samarinda. Kalau ada bagian yang belum bisa dibuat di dalam negeri, tentu bisa diupayakan alih teknologi dengan negara tempat kita memesan," kata Ade, yang merancang platform peluncuran rudal Yakhont di KRI Oswald Siahaan. (ong/age/dia/che/sem/ody)

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2015/10/07/15010001/Rantai.Tank.Kelas.Dunia.dari.Depok?page=all

rantai medium tank FNSS hampir sama yang di buat TNI AD di bawah ... di produksi di depok

175 ex-French AMX-13/75mm + 130 Ex-Dutch AMX-13/105mm+ 80 or 90 FV101 Scorpion 90mm = 385 or 395 ( "about 400") total. Perhaps this indeed is the actual number.

Does that 400 number for KAV include the Leo2? (With approximately U.S. $287 million, Indonesia purchased 42 units of the Leopard 2A4 and 61 units of the Leopard 2 Revolution plus 10 supporting Leopard 2 tanks).

di Kompas diberitakan AMX 13 sebanyak 600 unit ....

AMX-13 buatan Prancis yang jumlahnya 600 unit lebih digunakan TNI.

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2015/10/07/15010001/Rantai.Tank.Kelas.Dunia.dari.Depok?page=all

 

[Satria Manggala]

PT DI joint development Aircraft and UAV with TAI

PTDI dan Turkish Aerospace Industries Kerjasama Pengembangan Pesawat

Humas PTDI - Pada perhelatan International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) 2017 yang diselenggarakan pada tanggal 9-12 Mei 2017 di Istanbul, Turkey, Direktur Utama PTDI, Budi Santoso menandatangani MoU dengan CEO Turkish Aerospace Industries, Inc (TAI), PhD. Temel KOTÌL.

MoU antara TAI dengan PTDI diantaranya :
- Peningkatan avionik dan sayap untuk pesawat-pesawat CN235.
- Pengembangan, sertifikasi dan produksi bersama pesawat N245.
- Global supply chain untuk komponen CN235
- Pengembangan bersama untuk pesawat tanpa awak kelas Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE).

http://www.bumn.go.id/ptdi/berita/1...ce-Industries-Kerjasama-Pengembangan-Pesawat-

MALE UAV ANKA TAI [Aviation Analysis Wing]

 

[katarabhumi]

PT DI joint developmeny Aircraft and UAV with TAI




http://www.bumn.go.id/ptdi/berita/1...ce-Industries-Kerjasama-Pengembangan-Pesawat-

ANKA TAI [Aviation Analysis Wing]

They should "ajak" Garuda Aero too. We need more than just one advance aircraft maker.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Indonesia buys Korea's MILES training system

Korea's MILES training system has been selected the Indonesian special forces, in the system's first international export contract, the Korean Ministry of National Defence announced on the 11 May.

The system, manufactured by UTECH, is being supplied to Indonesia under a $5 million contract, with delivery to complete by November 2017.

The MILES system provides training for small units in various scenarios. It uses laser optic technology and the Internet of Things – an environment that shares information of things around us through wired and wireless network connections.

The system includes a smart watch function, with can monitor the trainee's bio information and the status of the training for safety purposes. The system can also reduce dual lasers into a single laser diode, making it possible to train for next-generation launcher technology.

CEO of UTECH Hwang In-hyup, said: 'This export is significant in that it's the first overseas expansion of the MILES training system developed with our own domestic technology. Through continuous technical development and investment, we will develop the best equipment, make a contribution to the development of a scientific training system and play a part in leading exports of the defence industry.'

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/special-operations/korea-exports-smart-miles-training-system/

 

[Penguin]

di Kompas diberitakan AMX 13 sebanyak 600 unit ....

AMX-13 buatan Prancis yang jumlahnya 600 unit lebih digunakan TNI.

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2015/10/07/15010001/Rantai.Tank.Kelas.Dunia.dari.Depok?page=all

I listed the tank versions 130+175=305. In addition, there are 50 SPGHs and at least 100 AMX-VCI. That makes 455 of all variants.

From Wiki Indonesian army:

AMX-13 France Light tank 225 Including self-propelled artillery variants. Not all operational and the remaining tanks will be upgraded by PT PINDAD .
AMX-VCI France Armoured Personnel Carrier 75 (75 figure is IISS Military Balance 2014).
AMX MK-61 France 105 mm howitzer 50 (50 acquired from The Netherlands in the 1970s-1980s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Indonesian_Army#Ground_Vehicles
This means 225, of which 50 SPGH and 175 Tank, plus 75 VCI/APC makes 300 max vehicles

From wiki AMX-13:
Current users
Indonesia: 175 AMX-13/75
Indonesia: 10 AMX-13 PDP bridgelayers
FormerUsers
Netherlands: 131 AMX-13/105
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13#Operators
Sipri confirms Netherlands sold its 130 to Indonesia)
175+130=305 tanks + 10 Bidgelayers = 315 vehicles

From Wiki AMX-VCI
Current users
Indonesian Army 200 in service
Former users
Netherlands: Dutch Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-VCI#Operators
Sipri mentions 100 sold by Netherlands to Indonesia, Indonesian army page states 75 inservice (IISS data): likely Indonesia acquired 100 from France and some no longer in use. Total at best 200 AMX-VCI

Collating:
175 AMX13/75 tank from France
130 AMX13/105 tank from Netherlands
50 AMX MK-61 105mm sp-artillery from Netherlands (which owned 82)
75-100 AMX-VCI APC, likely from Netherlands
10 AMX13/PDP bridgelayers
_____
440-465 vehicles total

Besides bridge layers, there >may< be a few more VCI-based specialized vehicles (command, recovery, ambulance, freight). Still, I don't see how it could to much more than 500 that way.

CROSSCHECK data SIPRI (armored vehicles to Indonesia since 1950, from any/all source-countries)
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

France
175 AMX-13/75 Light tank (1960) 1961-1963
10 AMX-13-PDP Armored Bridgelayer (1960) 1961-1962
32 AMX-VCI Armored Personnel Carrier (1960) 1962 Incl 4 VTT/PC command post & 6 ARV version

Netherlands
130 AMX-13/105 Light tank (1980) 1980-1981 Second-hand but modernized before delivery
100 AMX-VCI Armored Personnel Carrier (1976) 1977-1978 Second-hand but modernized before delivery; no. could be up to 180

collating
AMX-13 tank = 305
AMX-13 PDP = 10
AMX-VCI ARV = 6
AMX-VCI VVT/PC = 4
AMX-VCI = 22+100 or 22+180
That makes at least 447 to at most 527 vehicles

Awesome!

 

[patu]

PT DI joint development Aircraft and UAV with TAI

Great move Pt DI, searching tehnology and market expancing.

http://www.bumn.go.id/ptdi/berita/1...ce-Industries-Kerjasama-Pengembangan-Pesawat-

MALE UAV ANKA TAI [Aviation Analysis Wing]

good move PT DI.
about our amx number i think we actually do not knew remember that
" not every weapons were listed nor published by the MOD" ( alfa operation like).
Not new.

 

[Nike]

good move PT DI.
about our amx number i think we actually do not knew remember that
" not every weapons were listed nor published by the MOD" ( alfa operation like).
Not new.

no, i dont believe it either

Such second hands equipment is easy to track, especially their supplier is NATO countries in which hold responsibility for their tax payer.

 

[striver44]

source indomiliter and Dispen marinir

interesting one.....

 

[patu]

no, i dont believe it either

Such second hands equipment is easy to track, especially their supplier is NATO countries in which hold responsibility for their tax payer.

I do agree with you for the present acquiring proccess, but before ninety, the possibility of this kind operation happen were widely open, espesially on the quantities/numbers of weapons wich we were acqurred.

 

[Satria Manggala]

STM-TKMS Offers Three Type 214 Submarines for Indonesian Navy

The first submarine would be built in Turkey and two more in Indonesia ...

IDEF 2017: STM & TKMS Signed LOI on Type 214 Submarines for Indonesian Navy

During IDEF 2017, the international defense exhibition held in Istanbul, Turkish company STM signed a LOI (letter of intent) with German Shipbuilding group ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS).

Scale model of Type 214TN on TKMS stand at IDEF 2017

Talking to Navy Recognition, an STM representative explained that the LOI calls for cooperation between the two companies on a potential contract to built three submarines for the Indonesia Navy (TNI AL). The first submarine would be built in Turkey and two more in Indonesia.

The design being offered is based on the future Turkish-configuration Type 214 diesel-electric submarine (SSK) currently being built by Gölcük Naval Shipyard in Kocaeli for the Turkish Navy (six Type 214TN submarines have been ordered).

As part of the agreement, STM would act as prime contractor if Indonesia was to select the Type 214 design. Other companies such as DSME from South Korea and DCNS from France are also proposing their design to Indonesia.

The LOI signing ceremony at IDEF 2017. Picture: STM

The Type 214 SSK is developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW). It features diesel propulsion with an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system using Siemens polymer electrolyte membrane (PEM) hydrogen fuel cells. The Type 214 submarine is derived from the Type 212.

Type 214 submarines have a length of 65 m., a beam of 6.3 m, a draught of 6 m. and are capable of diving to a depth of 400 m. Their crew is comprised of 40 sailors. Their weapons include mines, torpedoes and anti-ship missiles which are launched from eight 533 mm. tubes.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/inde...-type-214-submarines-for-indonesian-navy.html