Indonesia Breaks Ground on China-backed Green Industrial Park Set to be World's Largest

[Song Hong]

Then how Vietnam profit from Samsung?

I don’t see how we Vietnam can profit anything from this. Everything chinese. money comes from China, investors from China, technology from China, workers from China probably chicken rice from China as well.

 

[Shotgunner51]

In 1987, Prince Sultan of Saudi Arabia signed a US $3.5 billion

Yes, a massive $3.5B back in 1987, for 36 DF-3A medium range ballistic missile + all related land based infrastructure, that effectively gave birth to the Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force.

 

[MH.Yang]

Yes, a massive $3.5B back in 1987, for 36 DF-3A medium range ballistic missile + all related land based infrastructure, that effectively gave birth to the Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force.

This incident prevented Saddam from dragging Saudi Arabia into the Iran Iraq war and contributed to world peace.

 

[Shotgunner51]

contributed to world peace

Lovely slogan! It was a win-win deal that benefits both sides immediately, and in the long run.

 

[beijingwalker]

ASEAN's future is with China, there's nothing US can do about it.

 

[MH.Yang]

Lovely slogan!

After all, we sell ICBM, which is not a glorious thing. I only mentioned the amount of the contract, and you shouldn't mention the content of the contract. So I can only talk about the contribution of this contract to world peace.
Well, I admit we were so poor that we dared to sell any weapons.

 

[Stranagor]

I don’t see how we Vietnam can profit anything from this. Everything chinese. money comes from China, investors from China, technology from China, workers from China probably chicken rice from China as well. Moreover as chinese make cheap finished products they are a big threat to Vietnamese workers. We will go hungry to beds.

It all depends on the contracts signed between the parties. Remember, it is market environment.

On cheap manufacturing, I would not lose sleep over it. Those industries are moving elsewhere, for sure. If Vietnam is to stay in that cheap manufacturing realm, your competition is definitely not to be China.

 

[MH.Yang]

I don’t see how we Vietnam can profit anything from this. Everything chinese. money comes from China, investors from China, technology from China, workers from China probably chicken rice from China as well. Moreover as chinese make cheap finished products they are a big threat to Vietnamese workers. We will go hungry to beds.

When did Chinese enterprises make Vietnamese workers hungry? Chinese enterprises pay Vietnamese workers higher wages than Vietnamese enterprises.
Also, China does not have enough population to support low-end manufacturing. Your competitors are not Chinese.

 

[Shotgunner51]

After all, we sell ICBM, which is not a glorious thing. I only mentioned the amount of the contract, and you shouldn't mention the content of the contract. So I can only talk about the contribution of this contract to world peace.

The content of the deal is no secret, you just try a web search, it's even publicly paraded by the Saudis. What's done is done, it doesn't make one more "glorious" by hiding what one has done, especially when it's publicly known.

Moreover there's nothing "inglorious" with selling missiles (it's medium range by the way, not even ICBM), everyone no matter how hypocritical if capable of doing so does the same, don't forget long range jets (fighters/bombers, refueling tankers) can inflict exactly the same damage if not more. Even when China is gracious enough to voluntarily play by MTCR rules (which targets China if you know the background, what an irony) you know that regime was only introduced after the China-KSA deal. But anyway, I do like your slogan, it's beautiful as always.

Saudi Arabia's DF-3 ballistic missiles were displayed for the first time during the parade at the end of the military exercise code-named 'Saif Abdullah'. (Source Saudi Arabia press agency)

 

[Viet]

Then how Vietnam profit from Samsung?

Samsung comes from Korea.

 

[OIO]

The Chinese have a great affection for Saudi Arabia.
In 1987, Prince Sultan of Saudi Arabia signed a US $3.5 billion military purchase contract with China, it has helped China too much. At that time, China's foreign exchange was about to run out, and we had only $1072 million in foreign exchange left.
Although the prince Sultan died in 2011, but we will always remember Prince Sultan.

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That was the first time the Chinese saw so many dollars! There are many circulated stories about this transaction, and all the stories express the meaning that Saudi Arabia was really rich and China was really poor at that time.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The Chinese have a great affection for Saudi Arabia.
In 1987, Prince Sultan of Saudi Arabia signed a US $3.5 billion military purchase contract with China, it has helped China too much. At that time, China's foreign exchange was about to run out, and we had only $1072 million in foreign exchange left.
Although the prince Sultan died in 2011, but we will always remember Prince Sultan.

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But Saudi Arabia is supposed to be a US/UK/West puppet..

That was the first time the Chinese saw so many dollars! There are many circulated stories about this transaction, and all the stories express the meaning that Saudi Arabia was really rich and China was really poor at that time.

Yes China was very poor at the time. However it was self inflicted by Mao's policy of self isolation and wrong economic policies where the state wanted to control every single thing in China and didn't allow any private initiative whatsoever, and entrepreneurs were either discouraged,shamed as capitalists traitors or even killed.
Luckily Deng changed policies and adopted a more rational realistic outlook, else China will still be the same today, just a bigger version of north Korea

 

[OIO]

But Saudi Arabia is supposed to be a US/UK/West puppet..

Yes China was very poor at the time. However it was self inflicted by Mao's policy of self isolation and wrong economic policies where the state wanted to control every single thing in China and didn't allow any private initiative whatsoever, and entrepreneurs were either discouraged,shamed as capitalists traitors or even killed.
Luckily Deng changed policies and adopted a more rational realistic outlook, else China will still be the same today, just a bigger version of north Korea

You forget that these missiles are Chairman Mao’s legacy.

 

[MH.Yang]

But Saudi Arabia is supposed to be a US/UK/West puppet..

That is Saudi Arabia's internal affairs and has nothing to do with us. The Chinese people know that Saudi Arabia has helped us in our most dangerous time, that's enough.
We never ask any country to choose between China and the USA, because our enemies and friends are not determined by the country. It is our friends who support globalization, even apple and Tesla in the USA. Those who support populism are our enemies, even if it is a Chinese company.

BTW: Remind you of one thing.
In the Middle East, only Iraq and Israel participated in the Biden democracy summit.
All East African countries were absent from the meeting.
In South Asia, only India participated in the meeting.
Do you still think the USA still has enough control over the Gulf and the Indian Ocean?

 

[mike2000 is back]

You forget that these missiles are Chairman Mao’s legacy.

And so? What's the point of such missiles if the country is in a state of quasi bankruptcy and its people/youths are suffering from hunger/ famines and emigrating to the West/soitheast Asia and other Asia countries in droves for a better life?
The point I'm trying to make is that both could have been achieved in a better way without losing control. Blind ideology just like religion in shaping government policy is a recipe for disaster.
Even North Korea has ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, submarines etc would you say North Koreans citizens are better off with their country/current plight? Lool They just need to look at South Korea to curse their leaders (in their minds obviously lol) in their death bed.
Funny thing is they can achieve both with a rational policy if they abandon that silly ideology