I can ask you the same question.. why didnt iaf cross LOC?
And it wasnt Pak Army troops but mujahideen and Paramilitary troopa from NLI (which was later regularised as part of PA).
And I already explained, we were in the dominant position but our politicians wouldn't allow, unlike pak India would not be allowed to look like a war monger.
It can be construed as diplomatically a good choice, after all our stock in the world has risen whereas pak is more or less a pariah.
Also no, you cannot ask me the same.
The onus was on pakistan to cross not on India.
We didn't start the war, you did.
Also, semantics, the point is your airforce let your own soldiers die rather than protect them from IAF airstrikes because they were scared of IAF.
Sure bro.. even than your airforce was boasting though.
As for PAF as we speak.. sure.. although they did paint your SU-30s red in the recent past...
Boasting? How do you mean?
We were weak af then.
Inferior USSR fighters a generation behind whatever pak could field with inferior fcs, range and above all else you had sidewinders(the pinnacle of air combat at that time).
We weren't even close to your American supplied stuff, its a lot different now though.
Russia caught up and PAF saw that and plainly refused to even engage our Mig-29s even at the cost of pakistani lives. That is fear.
And what is this recent past you talk about?
Sri lanka,Nepal,Maldives,Pak and even Bangladesh could attest to that.. even China.. forward policy fiasco.. LTTE,Blockades and insurgencies .. yup.
Likewise, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Iran, Balochistan, Zarb e azb, every non punjabi speaking pakistani, non muslim in pakistan, every terrorist activity by pak supported terrorists in India, BCCI, and what not.
Lets not count sins.
Vedic fighter with 3000 flying hours and 2 jet testing squadron? Sure man..
You see fighters take time when a country not versed in it attempts to build it, you would have known that had you designed and built your own.
Not all of us have a sugar daddy who can build it for us so that we can boast of "producing(assembling)" FC1s in house.
And which HMDS,HOBs is that under development lemon using? Invisible vedic hyper-galactic ones?
Under development?
You mean inducted.
I know you cannot digest the fact that India made its fighter while pak assembles its own, but do try to keep up.
I realize you cannot fathom Tejas being better than JFT in anything but if you actually ventured out of your echo chamber you would have known.
Elbit DASH V, Targo its called now I think.
Here's the video.
JF does have a fully FBW (you should search about it)... it also has over 50,000 flying hours and more..
It has 6 SQDs with over 108 units in active service. And another sqd for testing and developing tactics at CCS.
Oh really?
I am talking about a quadruplex FBW.
Doesn't it only have a 3 axis fbw?
It has participated in several international airshows.
We know in which it didn't. cough-BIAS2016-cough
Barely, your choppers mostly cleaned up the area, JFT came last to mop up what was left, pr stunt if anything.
What and how many PGMs did you use?
It has been exported to 2 nations.
China should be congratulated then.
Also, how many units of the FC-1 are operating
right now in any of those airforces?
HOBS,AESA,HMD,IRST etc will soon arrive with Block III.
Talk to us when those do.
Cant say the same about vedic udan khatola now can we?
Well our udaan khatola already has quad fbw and HMDS which your current fleet of FC1s don't have and supposedly blk 3(only the chinese know when) is to get.
Apart from that our Uttam AESA has recently gotten ready for integration and tests.
Astra BVR too.
And which of the above subsystems you'll be employing in JF Blk3 will come from pakistan again?
Nah.. it has much more compared to LCA... dubbed a joke by international think tanks like RUSI;
Tejas- joke or hope?
Tejas, national pride over practicality?
Joke. Thirty years of development to produce an aircraft with short range, poor payload, and severe quality control issues throughout the manufacturing process leading to badly fitting structural components, slow delivery rates and high costs due to remanufacturing and alterations requirements. India would have done much better to have just bought a licence to manufacture Gripen C/D.
Oops!
Oh wait, we are supposed to give a flying toss as to what the regularly Indophobic Brits think now.
1 paragraph, such a think
tank level discussion, bravo.
Nice try.
Should we take any snippet from anyone as legitimate discourse?
Maybe this counts as well?
indian components like vedic parmano fart mijjiles?
I know it hurts knowing you have nothing significant on the JFT.
Those come with subsystems from france,US etc?
Refer to above.
Also, more than you'll ever make.
And keep hoping pakistan will make Azm and stealth UCAVs what not when it doesn't even have the facilities I had stated.
Sure those CNCs at PAC, those dudes at AWC are useless.. the mighty indian troll knows more.
OMG, you have CNC machines that so means you can "produce" JFTs.
I mean, that is after all, all you need to make a jet, SO EASY.
Oh, wait what is that?
I thought those CNC machines were milling JFs like pancakes out of fresh steel, but here it looks like China is just handing it to you off the shelf structure and all.
Sure whatever you say..
Well its true.
Goes to show how much you know about UAVs or pretend to know.
Comeback with a UAV having endurance of 3 hours and 300 km dude.
Than we will talk.
And?
Come back with a MALE UCAV then boast about your teenie weenie drones.
Thats nice... boasting about a UAV thats still under development while failing to produce a decent tactical level UAV.. IRONY?
What hypocrisy.
Literally, you do just that a few paras below.
Also, tactical UAVs? LOL.
Only pakistanis can boast of those while the rest of the world moves on to MALE UCAVs
Come back when you have a non chinese MALE UCAV, maybe then talk about what a few teenie weenie UAVs can do.
But none of the UAVs I posted are Chinese (while your army shamelesaly uses Chinese commercial drones lol).
No wonder they are small and dated, hence Wing Loongs.
What's so shameful about using cheap replaceable drones?
And rustom is still a phuss dewali patakha?
Oh which is why it hasn't crashed since its 1st iteration which had a completely different airframe to begin with and has over a dozen successful flights?
LOL, comparing mini drones to Rustom.
Nah, they just get shot down and reveal your own posts and their layouts..
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Oh boo hoo.
A few cheap drones are shot.
Here have a cookie.
LOL, and those drones don't just have a video link right?
I'm sure both sides already know each others' positions the point is you got deferred visuals we got live ones.
Good cheerleading effort...
The drones are useful for Pak.. less terrorists.. infact GOP provides the intelligence...
That is why you lot cry about it oh so regularly, right?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/world/asia/pakistan-us-drone-haqqani-network.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trike-inside-its-territory-idUSKBN1FD1NK?il=0
Nah man... chinese wont sell you the military ones...
You can buy world class uavs from Pakistani compexes or private companies like Integrated Dynamics or Satuma..
That's what you though about USA and look where you are now.
They are giving us goodies you can't hope to have now but unlike you we are not putting all our eggs in the same basket.
But you are pakistanis, of course you think geopolitics remains stagnant for your convenience.
After all the chinese are sooo kind to muslims, they won't ever turn away from pak like USA has, right?
World class.
LOL.
Again man why do you keep showing me your stuff, we already use far more capable and internationally recognized systems like the Heron, Harop, Harpy, Searcher from IAI, so why would we buy your low class stuff especially so your "under development" MALE UAV when we are working on our own MALE UCAV with a possibly better MTOW, range, indigenous ATGM and the like.
Only the heavens know how many subsystems are pakistani in yours.
Yeesh what are those.
We have far better systems than your toy like products.
Keeping an eye, underwater
AUV (Autonomous Underwater Vehicle) - 150 is an unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) being developed by Central Mechanical Engineering Research Institute (CMERI)
Securing the waters pertaining to India’s interest is set to acquire a whole new dimension, with the entry of versatile autonomous underwater vehicles (AUV) and submadrones, as force multipliers.
While the Indian Navy is planning to indigenously source 10 such platforms mainly for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), mine mitigation and sensor deployment, the Defence Research and Development
Organisation (DRDO) has come a long way in designing and building a batch of multiple AUVs to meet the Navy’s quality requirements.
The defence minister Manohar Parrikar had recently informed the Parliament that DRDO has undertaken a feasibility study for the development of different types of AUV platforms that could be used for a variety of roles,
like surveillance and mine counter measures etc; from hand-held slow-speed ones, to military-class, free-flooded platforms weighing 1.7 tonnes, with the capability to assist in the entire gamut of maritime security, straddling coastal and port defence to deep-sea operations.
DRDO NSTL AUV
AUV is an autonomous underwater vehicle and commonly known as unmanned underwater vehicle. AUVs can be used for underwater survey missions such as detecting and mapping submerged wrecks, rocks, and obstructions that can be a hazard to navigation for commercial and recreational vessels. What DRDO has designed for the Indian Navy is four-metre long, 1.4-metre wide, flat fish-shaped vehicle which can travel at a speed of about 7 km per hour at depths of up to 300 metres below sea level. The robotic vehicle is fully pre-programmed—in terms of algorithms and strategy, and mission requirements – and piloted by an on-board computer. There is no control of the vehicle once it is released into water. But, if the AUV deviates from its intended path, the guidance and control systems activate the propellers (technically called ‘thrusters’) and control planes to ensure that the vehicle returns to the original trajectory and continue moving along the desired path.
AUVs are the alternatives to the remotely operated vehicles (ROVs), which are controlled and powered from the surface but often prove to be inefficient at the places where communication between the operator and robot is constrained. With the development of the AUV, DRDO has enabled India to be at par with nations like US and Japan with such indigenous technology. The testing of this remotely operated vehicle has been done by DRDO and the programme has achieved objectives.
The AUV project involves the Electronic Corporation of India (ECIL), Hyderabad, as the concurrent engineering partner. The cost of the AUV is roughly $8.4 million and it will augment underwater surveillance capabilities of the Indian Navy.
The AUV, which is very small in size and operates around a mother ship from where it is launched, controlled and recovered, is expected to aid the Indian Navy in surveying waters and help in the deterrence of hostile ships or submarines.
Developed from a concept vehicle weighing 300 kg, the AUV has two interconnected cylindrical pressure hulls. Its multi-sensor intelligence robotic architecture provides for underwater monitoring and communication. Since the thrusters are inside the pressure hulls, vibration is next to nil. Vehicle deployment is done by a ship-independent launch and recovery system developed by R&D Engineers, Pune, another DRDO lab. DRDO has done extensive work in terms of harnessing various aspects of hydro-dynamics as well as the integration of control and guidance in the AUV. The technology is aimed to be transferred to industry through mission mode projects based on specific application and requirements.
The Indian Navy has been impressed by the DRDO’s AUV that has undergone user demonstrations and has already elicited deep interest from the maritime forces following navigation trials at sea. DRDO’s naval science and technology laboratory (NSTL) in Visakhapatnam is also trying to develop a variant of the AUV that can conduct more frontline activity like mine-laying. The AUV, smaller than the AUV-150 developed by the Central Mechanical Research Institute (CMERI), will have passive sonar and electro-optical sensors.
In-house technologies already available with the Naval Science and Technology Laboratory (NSTL), such as mission computer system (MCS), integrated instrumentation and recording system (IIRS), power management system (PMS), and electrical systems, were adopted for the development of the AUV.
Source:-
Keeping an eye, underwater | The Financial Express
No thanks, we have far better systems that are more than just expo ponies.
Or you can buy from SATUMA .. and save “crores of rs” you are spending on buying from other countries..
Thanks again, but umlike you lot we have no dearth of money and hence wouldn't need to buy cheap low quality stuff we'd rather stick with the more proven systems that are tested stringently before induction rather than "one test induction" stuff with subsystems provided from suspect sources.
Because they were so good in previous wars that they knew they were going to win, so they thought lets just let PA troops die in IAF air strikes?
??
no you dont..
