India's Revenge: RAW Attacks Cricketers in Pakistan

[Neo]

This is a serious crime, our guests were attacked on our soil and we'll dapo to bring those who're responsible to justice.

All options are open including foreign hand. Everybody who benefits from this carnage is a suspect and the list is long...

 

[Awesome]

They might have used it for conveniance, as its easier to carry say compared to some other ****.

I'm just saying that they could've used a standard issue weapon (in a manner of speaking), rather than used a specialized weapon which till date they have no record of using it.

So first we don't know if they even have it...

The only thing i wonder about is that when Pakistan officaly and unofficially blame India for accusing Pakistan, then why arent they missing out on tarnishing and countering India.

The Pakistan government has historically been conservative about handing out accusations. The media however has not been silent about the matter.

 

[RedBaron]

Investigations are never liked by suspects.

We're not going to stop speculating against the CHIEF suspect, just not to hurt their feelings. RAW is the name on every Pakistani drawing room discussion, I can guarantee that to you.

I doubt RAW has been so successful that it has agents in SWAT, NWFP and now in Lahore city. Of course the RAW angle will be fully investigated by GoP as it should be. I doubt anything will come out of it, though.

On the other hand, one can immediately spot the similarities in the modus-operandi between Lahore and Mumbai attackers. My bet is that these guys belong to LeT/JuD/LeJ which are under pressure due to Lakhvi and Co. being put out of commission after Mumbai. Their goal is to attack vulnerable high-value targets like foreigners, to ensure GoP loses credibility at home and abroad. There may be other teams, fully trained and armed in Lashkar camps, lying low looking for high-value targets. They are locals, with local infrastructure and logistical support. I don't think we've seen the last of these guys, they seem to be getting bolder after every successful attack.

 

[roopesh]

Could be RAW! ISI involved in mumbai attacks. Its well known fact. ISI now asked Taliban to kill Indins and Indian constuction company in afghan. ISI doenst want India's presense in afghan wat so ever. So the ISI attacks are going on and on....
Every pakistani has a right to point the finger to any....GOP need to do proper investigation and comeup with proof and take it to international media. Already pakistan accepted that Mumbai attackers are pakistanis.
Lets think two cases
1) RAW involved: GOP should put international pressure on India to keep their target outside pakistan. Kill those agents without mercy. Show to the international media that Pakistan is fighting against terrors!
2) Taliban, LET or any other group: Close the organizations, Hang without mercy all the leaders of the organization. They might bring Islam or any religious logic...but GOP shouldnt care. They should act and prove to the international community that these incidents wont repeat

 

[linkinpark]

Why did the perpetrators left the place without using all the ammo?. What made them to leave behind the ammo? and why would they plan another attack when their main target is SL team?.

 

[Awesome]

WHO WAS BEHIND LAHORE 3/3 Terror Attacks??

I have one theory like every one here does...
Here it goes like this...
guys its clearly done by LET or jaish group who did 26/11 in mumbai backed by ISI & pakistan army.
Now the question is why ISI would archestrate this attack at cost the image of pakistan??

well, my theory is simple, its to defame the civilian govt & prove to the world their gross inefficiency in running a volatile nuclear state like pakistan.
Ur Army surely hates india ,but in current cicumstances hate ur civilian politicians like no one else.If one consider how one military dictator like Gen musharraf was ousted from power ,i think some section among the top brass of the pak army holds deep sitted grudge aganist ur politicians.

Now its whether its military men or civilian politians ,every body loves power and no one easily renounces it.

If u have noticed there have been far more terrorists attacks in pakistan during this civilian rule than Gen musharraf times.why??

Its because ur military guys wants create an atmosphere in pakistan that pakistani public & even outside international community in general would look at Pak Army with expectations and may even celebrate when the brass goes out for the next coup in pakistan.

If u ask indian govt ,they would luv to have musharraf era back any day than tolerate pathetic ppp politicians...

That might be true if the Army was looking forward to launch a coup. All indications state otherwise, Kayani has no interest in showing the current government down. Even today Kayani answered Zardari's call for advice. If you're indicating towards a false flag operation, there were many softer targets. This however has done PERMANENT damage to Pakistan. I don't think your theory has much weight in it.

 

[roadrunner]

Yes, I tend to agree. This has done damage to Pakistan. Therefore whoever did it must have been wanting to hit Pakistan's economy and so on. Since any group in Pakistan is dependent on Pakistan's economy, it is a good guess the dark hand of evil controlling the perpetrators of this crime were from outside the region. Look East, or West at those consulates

 

[Awesome]

I doubt RAW has been so successful that it has agents in SWAT, NWFP and now in Lahore city. Of course the RAW angle will be fully investigated by GoP as it should be. I doubt anything will come out of it, though.

On the other hand, one can immediately spot the similarities in the modus-operandi between Lahore and Mumbai attackers. My bet is that these guys belong to LeT/JuD/LeJ which are under pressure due to Lakhvi and Co. being put out of commission after Mumbai. Their goal is to attack vulnerable high-value targets like foreigners, to ensure GoP loses credibility at home and abroad. There may be other teams, fully trained and armed in Lashkar camps, lying low looking for high-value targets. They are locals, with local infrastructure and logistical support. I don't think we've seen the last of these guys, they seem to be getting bolder after every successful attack.

Why do you think RAW is not that successful? Its very easy for everyone to easily infiltrate Pakistan our border security isn't anything to boast about.

Please note:

RAW has an extensive network of agents and anti-government elements within Pakistan, including dissident elements from various sectarian and ethnic groups of Sindh and Punjab. Published reports allege that as many as 35,000 RAW agents have entered Pakistan between 1983-93, with 12,000 are working in Sindh, 10000 in Punjab 8000 in North West Frontier Province and 5000 in Balochistan. As many as 40 terrorist training camps at Rajasthan, East Punjab, Held Kashmir, Uttar Pradesh and other parts of India are run by the RAW's Special Service Bureau (SSB).

These figures are 26 years old and the number of terror activities indicate that the number could've only gone up, not down.

 

[Bull]

The Pakistan government has historically been conservative about handing out accusations. The media however has not been silent about the matter.

This is being negligent. You have proof, you arrested 3 Indian spys, you gave press statement regrding it. But wont still open it. The only answer i have is, those are all drama's by the state to appease the local populace. To convince and satisfy them that its foreign hand.

 

[Awesome]

Could be RAW! ISI involved in mumbai attacks. Its well known fact. ISI now asked Taliban to kill Indins and Indian constuction company in afghan. ISI doenst want India's presense in afghan wat so ever. So the ISI attacks are going on and on....
Every pakistani has a right to point the finger to any....GOP need to do proper investigation and comeup with proof and take it to international media. Already pakistan accepted that Mumbai attackers are pakistanis.
Lets think two cases
1) RAW involved: GOP should put international pressure on India to keep their target outside pakistan. Kill those agents without mercy. Show to the international media that Pakistan is fighting against terrors!
2) Taliban, LET or any other group: Close the organizations, Hang without mercy all the leaders of the organization. They might bring Islam or any religious logic...but GOP shouldnt care. They should act and prove to the international community that these incidents wont repeat

Dude if RAW is involved, there would be retaliation. I'm not rooting for it, but its just an inevitability. It has previously happened for much smaller incidents, this is an incident that will at least damage Pakistan's cricket for 10 or something years.

 

[Khajur]

That might be true if the Army was looking forward to launch a coup. All indications state otherwise, Kayani has no interest in showing the current government down. Even today Kayani answered Zardari's call for advice. If you're indicating towards a false flag operation, there were many softer targets. This however has done PERMANENT damage to Pakistan. I don't think your theory has much weight in it.

"If you're indicating towards a false flag operation, there were many softer targets"

well,u always need a big bang for big buck...

 

[Stumper]

Investigations are never liked by suspects.

We're not going to stop speculating against the CHIEF suspect, just not to hurt their feelings. RAW is the name on every Pakistani drawing room discussion, I can guarantee that to you.

So maybe i had the wrong impression about you. I remember practically every pakistani member on this board saying "Give us proof" during the mumbai carnage. And i was one supporting this. And now here is a thread which is going the same line, speculating indian involvement, without any proof , without any official statement by GoP. Its in time like this that sane voices needs to be louder.

Im not implying that your should not speculate. The point is why target "RAW" when practically everyone in Pak is doing that. It does not need any intelligence to blame RAW. ISI is usual suspect for us. RAW is usual suspect for you. All i suggested was to do some lateral thinking on who else can be behind this.

 

[Awesome]

Why did the perpetrators left the place without using all the ammo?. What made them to leave behind the ammo? and why would they plan another attack when their main target is SL team?.

Read above, Bull already raised this point.

 

[blain2]

Why did the perpetrators left the place without using all the ammo?. What made them to leave behind the ammo? and why would they plan another attack when their main target is SL team?.

Unlike Mumbai, here the Police commandos fought back and fired back at the attackers as such they left.

The assailants ambushed the convoy carrying the squad and match officials at a traffic circle close to the main sports stadium in the eastern city of Lahore ahead of a match against Pakistan's national team, triggering a 15-minute gunbattle with police guarding the vehicles.

Sri Lankan cricket team attacked in Pakistan

In the face of resistance and the fact that the bus driver kept on driving were the reasons the attackers left.

 

[Awesome]

This is being negligent. You have proof, you arrested 3 Indian spys, you gave press statement regrding it. But wont still open it. The only answer i have is, those are all drama's by the state to appease the local populace. To convince and satisfy them that its foreign hand.

Not really you'll see that these people tend to get tried and get sentences handed out to them as well. How many people heard about Sarabjit and his terror activities till Musharraf made some indications that he may pardon him?

Pakistan government is often criticized for their lack of ability to stir the media up. For one thing, free media in Pakistan started in 2002, basically. We haven't gotten the art down yet.