India’s north-south fissures deepen over national budgeting

[padamchen]

This becomes one of the fundamental aspects of Hindu culture.

To honour all those who help you on your path to your final destination. To acknowledge all help and to be grateful to all help, be it from strangers, or from animals.

Cows are a contributing member of Hindu society. The milk they provide becomes one of the staple diet for Hindus. From milk, to yogurt to chocolates to sweets and all kinds of food items. The sacred social contract is in exchange for this, we promise to protect them as a member of our society.

So we Honour our Cows as Gods too.

Why not hens then?

Or goats.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Gadkari]

Why not hens then?

Or goats.

Cheers, Doc

The Hens will continue to lay unfertilized eggs that will be eaten up by other animals.

Nobody drinks goats milk. Those who do, not not kill goats either.

 

[manlion]

What so special about cows? I just want to know not judging thanks

from my knowledge

religious
Hindus believe the gods reside in every part of the cow (kamadhenu)

Krishna was a cowherd, who calls for cow protection and reverence

cultural

cow provides milk hence the equivalence of a mother

 

[padamchen]

The Hens will continue to lay unfertilized eggs that will be eaten up by other animals.

Nobody drinks goats milk. Those who do, not not kill goats either.

Weak.

I expected you to be more assertive in owning your Gods. And not sidestepping with the above rationale.

Cheers, Doc

from my knowledge

religious
Hindus believe the gods reside in the cow (kamadhenu)

Krishna was a cowherd, who calls for cow protection and reverence

cultural

cow provides milk hence the equivalence of a mother

Yup.

This is the popular widely accepted narrative for the beef saga.

The cow being the abode of Gods.

@Malik Alashter

Cheers, Doc

 

[Gadkari]

Weak.

I expected you to be more assertive in owning your Gods. And not sidestepping with the above rationale.

Cheers, Doc

I honestly don't care what you expect. If a hindu was to ask that question I would have given him a more detailed answer because he will understand the context.

My explanation was to a non Hindu and based on his cultural context.

If an Indian non Hindu was to ask that question, I have given different answers based on who asked that question. Bigots needs to be replied to in a different language.

 

[Malik Alashter]

from my knowledge

religious
Hindus believe the gods reside in the cow (kamadhenu)

Krishna was a cowherd, who calls for cow protection and reverence

cultural

cow provides milk hence the equivalence of a mother

Unfortunately
We humans respect even animals life more than we do with humans

 

[Gadkari]

Yup.

This is the popular widely accepted narrative for the beef saga.

The cow being the abode of Gods.

@Malik Alashter

Cheers, Doc

LOL.....so now a non Hindu Parsi is "teaching" hinduism to muslims too ?

They hypocrisy never ends.

Have you noticed that its always the Non Hindus are are "Experts" on Hinduism ?

From the British to US universities to pakistanis and parsis and xtians.

Unfortunately
We humans respect even animals life more than we do with humans

Errrr ... NO you DON'T.

It's only the Hindus who do.

 

[Malik Alashter]

LOL.....so now a non Hindu Parsi is "teaching" hinduism to muslims too ?

They hypocrisy never ends.

Have you noticed that its always the Non Hindus are are "Experts" on Hinduism ?

From the British to US universities to pakistanis and parsis and xtians.



Errrr ... NO you DON'T.

It's only the Hindus who do.

Mate you worship cow or you don't that's your business with due respect but what I said it's not appertain to one nation it's appertaining on all of us

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Southerners feel penalised for progress as the political agenda is set by the north

The first time I visited Hyderabad in the mid-1990s, it was a sleepy south Indian city of Indo-Islamic monuments, dilapidated colonial-era buildings and big trees. But Chandrababu Naidu, the then chief minister, had a vision of transforming it into a global tech hub — a Silicon Valley outpost, powered by low-cost Indian programmers.

As a proof of concept, his government had built a cylindrical office complex on the city’s desolate outskirts. Inside the mostly empty Cyber Towers, I met a Silicon Valley-returned techie, who had set up shop with a dozen local programmers to do jobs for his erstwhile US employer. Gushing over Hyderabad’s tech potential, he insisted other California-based Indians wanted to come home too. “Good luck,” I thought as I left, stepping over the exposed cables.

But Mr Naidu’s dream did come true. Today, Cyber Towers is dwarfed by the vast campuses of global companies such as Microsoft, Google and Amazon, and Indian groups such as Wipro and Infosys. Hyderabad is a confident, modern boomtown that feels more akin to a prosperous south-east Asian metropolis than its down-at-heel north Indian counterparts. Hyderabad’s transformation reflects the rising prosperity of India’s progressive and dynamic southern states, and their widening socio-economic divergence from the more backward and impoverished north.

Decades of successful family planning, a focus on education — including for girls — and better governance gave southern states a strong foundation on which to build on opportunities unleashed by India’s economic liberalisation since 1991. Today, southern states’ fertility rates are below replacement levels, indicators on health and education are on a par with upper middle-income countries and poverty has fallen sharply. In the north, meanwhile, women still have an average of three or four children, and fare poorly on most gauges of wellbeing. Despite the south’s rapid progress, India’s national political agenda still tends to be set by the more populous north — the conservative, Hindi-speaking region often called the “cow belt”.

That is now provoking southern discomfort. “There is a feeling of being disempowered and colonised,” a Hyderabad-based academic told me on a recent visit. “There is a deep feeling of resentment that we are not part of the process.” These fissures are being laid bare in a fierce debate over the allocation of public resources to states, in a once-in-every-five years budgeting exercise. They are likely to intensify over the next decade when India redraws its parliamentary map. For decades, New Delhi has allocated funds and parliament seats based on states’ population data from the 1971 census, before the mixed results of its family planning drive sent them on radically different demographic trajectories.

But Narendra Modi’s government, whose core support lies in the Hindi heartland, has decided the 2011 census should be used as the basis for resource allocation over the next five years. This process and parliamentary redistricting due by 2026 are likely to see affluent southern states lose out financially and politically, due to their diminishing demographic weight after years of promoting small families. Money and parliamentary seats will be diverted to the more populous north. Southerners are up in arms.

“This is something being done by the northerners for the northerners,” says Krishnamurthy Subramanian, a finance professor at the Indian School of Business in Hyderabad. “There is a sense of unfairness. Why are we being penalised for doing good things?” He adds: “Northern states will end up benefiting from their profligacy.”

Tension over resource transfers — both within and between nations — are a growing cause of global friction. They have an extra edge in India, where a population as ethnically and linguistically diverse as Europe’s coexists in a single state. India’s north undoubtedly faces severe challenges. But if redistribution is not perceived as fair, it may unleash dangerous resentment. And tackling northern India’s problems will take more than money. There are lessons to be learnt from Hyderabad’s success: if you lay a strong foundation, investors and prosperity will come. amy.kazmin@ft.com Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2018. All rights reserved.

More information can be found here.
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The whole of Tamil nadu skims off Chennai. Chennai also needs a separate country.
Same for Bangalore. Mumbai.

 

[manlion]

from my knowledge
Krishna was a cowherd, who calls for cow protection and reverence

Krishna with his cows

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Developed south is subsidising populated north: CM Siddaramaiah writes
I don’t think the demands for greater federal autonomy and recognition of regional identity are inconsistent with our nation, the CM says.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...make-us-any-less-indian-cm-siddaramaiah-78053

Developed Bangalore subsidising under developed Managalore.

 

[Gadkari]

Mate you worship cow or you don't that's your business with due respect but what I said it's not appertain to one nation it's appertaining on all of us

And with all due respect what you said is NOT application to all nations.

India consumes the lowest meat per capita. The vaste majority of us survive on eating fruits and vegetables and grains and pulses.

That is called respect for Animals.

Not keeping them in the zoo and calling it 'respect'.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

There is a samhita called the Taittiriya Upanishad which is part of the Yajur Veda.

This Upanishad is divided into sections called vallis,
1.) Siksha-valli or the section on instruction.
2.) Brahmananda - valli or the section on Brahma-bliss.
3) Bhrigu-valli or the section on Sage Bhrigu.

In Siksha Valli the students are taught,

Maathru Devo Bhava
Pithru Devo Bhava
Aacharya Devo Bhava
Athidhi Devo Bhava.

i.e.

Honour thy Mother as God.
Honour thy Father as God.
Honour thy Teacher as God.
Honour thy Guest as God.

It goes on to say, Let only those actions that are free from blemish be done, and not others. Only those that are good acts to us should be performed by thee, and not others.

This becomes one of the fundamental aspects of Hindu culture.

To honour all those who help you on your path to your final destination. To acknowledge all help and to be grateful to all help, be it from strangers, or from animals.

Cows are a contributing member of Hindu society. The milk they provide becomes one of the staple diet for Hindus. From milk, to yogurt to chocolates to sweets and all kinds of food items. The sacred social contract is in exchange for this, we promise to protect them as a member of our society.

So we Honour our Cows as Gods too.

Blah blah blah

 

[manlion]

And with all due respect what you said is NOT application to all nations.

India consumes the lowest meat per capita. The vaste majority of us survive on eating fruits and vegetables and grains and pulses.

That is called respect for Animals.

Not keeping them in the zoo and calling it 'respect'.

The myth of the Indian vegetarian nation
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43581122

 

[Gadkari]

The myth of the Indian vegetarian nation
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43581122

First find out what "per capita meat consumption" mean.