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HARIDWAR,Uttarakhand— In a concrete-block factory a few miles from one of the holiest spots on theGanges, workers in hairnets and beanies slap caps on bottles zipping down an assembly line. A few feet further, another group sticks on no-nonsense, pharmaceutical-looking labels that read, "Divya Godhan Ark."

The room reverberates with a droning, mechanical whir, and it's redolent with a distinctive smell — like when you first open a jar of multivitamins, combined with a gas station men's room.

That's because the clear liquid in the bottles is purified cow's urine — quite possibly the fastest growing alternative medicine in India these days.

"Cow's urine is a diuretic. It helps in detoxification of the body, and many other beneficial effects are described in theSanskritscriptures, such as helping to expel excess bile," saysAnil Kumar, a vaidya — practitioner of Ayurvedic medicine — employed by the company Divya Pharmacy.

Since successive Indian governments stepped up their promotion of alternative medicine a decade or so ago, unproven health products and nutritional supplements made from cow milk, cow urine and cow dung have become huge business.

Already,Patanjali Yogpeeth, which owns Divya Pharmacy, collects hundreds of thousands of gallons of cow's urine per day to be processed and packaged as facial cream, shampoo, soap, nasal drops, hair tonic and various medicines, press reports indicate.

Patanjali Ayurved, the brand's parent company that makes everything from herbal cosmetics to juices to cornflakes, has estimated annual revenue of around $380 million, according to investment firm Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia. Other producers such as Calves N Leaves and Vedic Cow Products report year-on-year sales growth of 10 and 30% respectively. And it's not just the masses buying it:Cow dungis giving tea tree oil a run for its money at posh stalls like The Thela ("the cart") in some of the country's biggest malls.

Bovine products are just the tip of a mammoth iceberg of soaps, lotions, ointments and medicines founded in ancient Indian texts.

But medical doctors warn they can be harmful, despite being "all natural," and critics argue that the government is promoting alternative medicines without seeking to test their efficacy and develop them into modern treatments.

Worse still, the focus on these unproven remedies may be detracting attention from the genuine crisis in the mainstream healthcare sector — where this year the government slashed federal funding in a bid to push responsibility onto the states.

Doctors complain that patients come to them when their cancer has progressed too far for surgery or when hepatitis has already resulted in liver failure, because they've spent weeks or months in the care of alternative practitioners. Meanwhile, as an ongoing outbreak of dengue fever inNew Delhihas illustrated, the public health system is creaking its way toward abject failure, says Dr. Sumit Ray, vice chairman of critical care at the capital'sSir Ganga Ram Hospital.

People "are desperately looking for alternatives which are not expensive," he said in a telephone interview. "That is understandable. The failure is on the part of the government."

Few, if any, studies have been published in respectable, peer-reviewed journals, they say. But that hasn't stopped practitioners — and politicians — from making grandiose claims, in part because the rules governing such "supplements" are less stringent than those for allopathic medicines.

"If you want to save yourself from cancer, there is a need to protect cows on a priority because cow urine is effective in curing cancer completely. It can cure [100] percent. I can vouch for it. Nobody wants to hear this," Shankarbhai N. Vegad, a member of parliament for the rulingBharatiya Janata Party(BJP), announced to the upper house in March.

And in January, the governor ofKarnataka state,Vajubhai Rudabhai Vala, proclaimed that while allopathic medicine might control disease, only Ayurvedic medicine has the ability to cure it — permanently and without side effects. Meanwhile, high-profile practitioners have claimed thatAyurvedacan treat dengue, epilepsy, AIDS and other serious conditions.

Advocates of Ayurveda do more than just talk. Last year, for instance, a bill was introduced that would have allowed AYUSH practitioners to perform abortions, if it had passed. Tuberculosis experts bemoan a decision to allow AYUSH practitioners in certain states with a shortage of medical doctors to prescribe antibiotics — saying bad prescriptions have contributed to a spike in antibiotic resistance. And AYUSH MinisterShripad Yesso Naikrecently announced that five new universities of alternative medicine will be set up in the name of the prestigiousAll India Institute of Medical Sciences(AIIMS), despite the lack of scientific evidence for the principles they'll be teaching.

"India cannot be completely different from the rest of the world," Ray said. "It's been established that healthcare improves with increased spending on public healthcare and improved nutrition and sanitation.

"You can invest in alternative medicine, too. But more stress has to be on allopathic medicine."


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This summer, for example, Delhi's worst-ever outbreak of dengue — a vector-borne illness spread by mosquitoes that spikes during the monsoon season — has resulted in some 7,600 infections and at least 25 deaths.

In this case, cow's urine is not involved. But prices have spiked this monsoon season for products like goat's milk and papaya leaves that some Ayurvedic doctors say can alleviate symptoms associated with dengue — even though medical doctors caution that they're of little benefit.

Meanwhile facilities and personnel at government hospitals are dramatically overstretched. In some cases, hospitals have been compelled to put two or three children in one bed and set up cots on balconies to house the influx of dengue patients.

"It's probably gotten worse [under the current government], because public health spending has actually decreased," Ray said.

Though a program to standardize and promote traditional medicines has been in place since 1995, some see a direct connection withPrime Minister Narendra Modi'sHindu nationalistsupport base.

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A cow looks on with coloured dyes and paste on its forehead after being blessed by Indian women during a Hindu Bach Baras ritual in the Rajasthan city of Udaipur on Sept. 9, 2015. The annual festival for cow worshiping, also known as Vatsa Dwadashi, is observed by Hindu women in parts of northern India and is intended to seek good fortune for a male child. Cows are considered sacred in Hindu-majority India, and their slaughter is illegal in several states. (Photo: ALEX OGLE, AFP/Getty Images)

After Modi took power in May last year, the department of Ayurveda, Yoga andNaturopathy, Unani,SiddhaandHomeopathy, or AYUSH, was upgraded to ministry status in November. Despite spending just $105 million of the $195 million it was allotted as a department in 2014, this year the new ministry was awarded a budget of $185 million. Meanwhile federal funding for theNational AIDS Control Organization, which also failed to spend all its 2014 funds, was cut to around $215 million from $275 million last year. (India has an estimated 2.1 million people living with HIV, representing the third-largest number of cases in the world.)

While investing in alternative medicines is not a bad idea in itself — in China, for example, research into traditional remedies resulted in the discovery of the anti-malarial drug artemisinin in the 1970s — critics point out that India's program seems more oriented toward marketing than scientific research.

At Haridwar's Divya Pharmacy, a unit of the Patanjali Ayurved group founded by a wildly popular television yoga guru known asSwami Ramdev, there's some evidence the company is attempting a marriage of the two systems.

In a hushed office that — apart from the portraits of the robed and bearded swami on the walls — looks as though it could belong to Merck orPfizer, an employee fans out confidential studies on the chemical properties of cow's urine, some conducted in house and others independently. One compares its efficacy in treating cancer with the chemotherapy drug doxorubicin.

A quick scan of some of the publicly accessible research suggests that credible proof is a long way off.

But perhaps one day we'll discover that quaffing cow's urine is not as crazy as it sounds. The estrogen treatmentPremarin, after all, was developed from pregnant mare's urine by the erstwhile Philadelphia-based pharmaceutical firmWyethin the 1940s.




India's Hindus won't eat cows, but might drink their pee
 
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drinking cow urine is part of the culture there, nothing new. Now its just become more commercialized it seems

regarding slaughter - BJP/fanatic extremist right wingers there want to ban slaughter of cows but they support export of cows for slaughter. What a logic. Seems that BJP policy (even in Muslim majority occupied Kashmir) is purely communal in nature, to target the Muslims of the sub continent under their grasp
 
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Latest trend in Tamil nadu social media..

This is from the same Tamil Nadu: Meaning & Significance of Pongal,Importance of Pongal,Pongal Festival Meaning,Significance of Pongal

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These are not bulls/cows from North Indian temples. These are idols of bulls that were once Jallikattu bulls and also milk giving cows. As a matter of fact, Jallikattu bull owners revere their bulls and cows. May be you don't know this. But in areas around Madurai, where you claim to come from, people don't eat beef because to them cows and bulls are respectable animals. In TN, if a cow dies the whole household mourns. You would have known that, if you actually came from Madurai.

பொய் சொன்னாலும் பொருந்தச் சொல்லனும். அவன்தான் ஏதோ திராவிடம் பேசுறேன், பகுத்தறிவு பேசுறேன்னு I eat beef ன்னு பெருமையா சொல்லிக்குறான். ஜல்லிக்கட்டைப் பத்தி வரி வரியா எழுதிட்டு நீ ஏன் தம்பி இப்போ பொசுக்குன்னு மாட்டுக்கறி பக்கம் தாவிட்ட? ஜல்லிக்கட்டு நடத்துற மக்கள் கிட்ட கேட்டுப்பாரு "நீங்க மாட்டுக்கறி சாப்பிடுவீங்களா?"ன்னு. வீச்சரிவாளை எடுத்துருவான். அப்புறம் தெரியும் "I eat beef" பத்தி.

Also, did you not claim that in TN nobody slaughters cows in another thread? Why do they not slaughter cows also, like goat and hens, if we all eat beef?

Disclaimer: I eat beef. Not just buffaloes. The one from cows also, especially veal meat. Whenever I go out of KSA I have lots of bacon too. And, camels too as often I can.
 
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cow's urine is spiritual for hindus . i have ni idea whats the logic behind it .
 
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This is from the same Tamil Nadu: Meaning & Significance of Pongal,Importance of Pongal,Pongal Festival Meaning,Significance of Pongal

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These are not bulls/cows from North Indian temples. These are idols of bulls that were once Jallikattu bulls and also milk giving cows. As a matter of fact, Jallikattu bull owners revere their bulls and cows. May be you don't know this. But in areas around Madurai, where you claim to come from, people don't eat beef because to them cows and bulls are respectable animals. In TN, if a cow dies the whole household mourns. You would have known that, if you actually came from Madurai.

பொய் சொன்னாலும் பொருந்தச் சொல்லனும். அவன்தான் ஏதோ திராவிடம் பேசுறேன், பகுத்தறிவு பேசுறேன்னு I eat beef ன்னு பெருமையா சொல்லிக்குறான். ஜல்லிக்கட்டைப் பத்தி வரி வரியா எழுதிட்டு நீ ஏன் தம்பி இப்போ பொசுக்குன்னு மாட்டுக்கறி பக்கம் தாவிட்ட? ஜல்லிக்கட்டு நடத்துற மக்கள் கிட்ட கேட்டுப்பாரு "நீங்க மாட்டுக்கறி சாப்பிடுவீங்களா?"ன்னு. வீச்சரிவாளை எடுத்துருவான். அப்புறம் தெரியும் "I eat beef" பத்தி.

Also, did you not claim that in TN nobody slaughters cows in another thread? Why do they not slaughter cows also, like goat and hens, if we all eat beef?

Disclaimer: I eat beef. Not just buffaloes. The one from cows also, especially veal meat. Whenever I go out of KSA I have lots of bacon too. And, camels too as often I can.
Read my previous posts well, i never told in TN no one kills beef. I told no one kills beef in temple, as i have posted the pics of beef sacrifice in temple.

May be you don't know how many jallikattu bulls were sold for meat... Unakku muthal la evlo jallikattu maadu, adi maada poirukku nu theriyuma?
 
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May be you don't know how many jallikattu bulls were sold for meat... Unakku muthal la evlo jallikattu maadu, adi maada poirukku nu theriyuma?

But is that considered respectable by the bull owners? Wasn't that taboo even among the owners? Don't most owners actually feel pride in retiring the bulls rather than selling them for meat to Kerala because of poverty?
 
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But is that considered respectable by the bull owners? Wasn't that taboo even among the owners? Don't most owners actually feel pride in retiring the bulls rather than selling them for meat to Kerala because of poverty?
Are they letting the bulls cow die a natural death? Nope, it will be sold. Everyone knows where it will end up finally.

Even saaval kattu(cock fight), aatu sandai(goat fight) are still there in the southern districts, if we go with that logic all the Tamils has to be vegetarian only. Jallikattu, saaval kattu, aatu sandai, animals prepared for fights are different from the one we eat. Even I don't like to eat the bull, goat which i have taken care with years of love, that doesn't mean I won't eat any chicken or mutton or beef.
 
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RSS members & fans must takeover responsibility of cows in India now because pastoral tribes are not properly taking care of their mothers. Instead of feeding them fruits & other luxury foods cruel anti nationalists are giving them grass. Cowdung should be preserved only in lockers. Cow pee should be administered to patients instead of drip glucose.
Only Sanghis can save their mothers from eating plastic bags on roads. Come on guys Gaumatas are calling you & cow dung is waiting for you on responsibility path..........
 
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Are they letting the bulls cow die a natural death? Nope, it will be sold. Everyone knows where it will end up finally.

Even saaval kattu(cock fight), aatu sandai(goat fight) are still there in the southern districts, if we go with that logic all the Tamils has to be vegetarian only. Jallikattu, saaval kattu, aatu sandai, animals prepared for fights are different from the one we eat. Even I don't like to eat the bull, goat which i have taken care with years of love, that doesn't mean I won't eat any chicken or mutton or beef.

Once again, it is not considered respectable for a bull/cow owner in TN to sell his cow/bull for slaughter. Some do end up for that, but that is not the norm, is it?

As for seval-kattu and aattu sandai, these sports do not have a religious angle to them, do they? Do they do pujas for these roosters and goats? On the other hand, every bull is revered unlike the goat or rooster. That "reverence" factor does not apply in seval-kattu or aattu sandai, does it? Tell me honestly, how prevalent is beef eating in TN? Does any maravar household ever cook beef? Or for that matter does any one cook beef in any house?
 
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This is from the same Tamil Nadu: Meaning & Significance of Pongal,Importance of Pongal,Pongal Festival Meaning,Significance of Pongal

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These are not bulls/cows from North Indian temples. These are idols of bulls that were once Jallikattu bulls and also milk giving cows. As a matter of fact, Jallikattu bull owners revere their bulls and cows. May be you don't know this. But in areas around Madurai, where you claim to come from, people don't eat beef because to them cows and bulls are respectable animals. In TN, if a cow dies the whole household mourns. You would have known that, if you actually came from Madurai.

பொய் சொன்னாலும் பொருந்தச் சொல்லனும். அவன்தான் ஏதோ திராவிடம் பேசுறேன், பகுத்தறிவு பேசுறேன்னு I eat beef ன்னு பெருமையா சொல்லிக்குறான். ஜல்லிக்கட்டைப் பத்தி வரி வரியா எழுதிட்டு நீ ஏன் தம்பி இப்போ பொசுக்குன்னு மாட்டுக்கறி பக்கம் தாவிட்ட? ஜல்லிக்கட்டு நடத்துற மக்கள் கிட்ட கேட்டுப்பாரு "நீங்க மாட்டுக்கறி சாப்பிடுவீங்களா?"ன்னு. வீச்சரிவாளை எடுத்துருவான். அப்புறம் தெரியும் "I eat beef" பத்தி.

Also, did you not claim that in TN nobody slaughters cows in another thread? Why do they not slaughter cows also, like goat and hens, if we all eat beef?

Disclaimer: I eat beef. Not just buffaloes. The one from cows also, especially veal meat. Whenever I go out of KSA I have lots of bacon too. And, camels too as often I can.

Tamils won't eat cows/bulls few sects of people eat them. I hope that above post from such sects..........
Maintaining Jallikattu bulls are not an easy task first you need money ,lands, dedicated man/labours . If somebody selling such bulls means mainly due to financial crisis (sometimes aging problems) but definitely not for money.
 
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RSS members & fans must takeover responsibility of cows in India now because pastoral tribes are not properly taking care of their mothers. Instead of feeding them fruits & other luxury foods cruel anti nationalists are giving them grass. Cowdung should be preserved only in lockers. Cow pee should be administered to patients instead of drip glucose.
Only Sanghis can save their mothers from eating plastic bags on roads. Come on guys Gaumatas are calling you & cow dung is waiting for you on responsibility path..........
Bhai i can say a lot of things which will sound ridiculous about Sikhism if i want to but i am not like you and hence i won't stoop to your level plus i have always revered the Sikh gurus and their teachings and have got high regards for Sikhism.Learn to respect other religions if you want them to respect yours.
On topic,we consider cow as our mother because other than our own birth mother we drink the milk provided by the cow since our birth.So this is the logic why cow is seen as a motherly figure by the followers of Sanatran Dharma and hence killing of cows is forbidden in our religion as we don't kill anyone whom we revere as our mothers:coffee:.
So when you are living in a country where 80% of the population consider cow as their mother,it's better for you to respect their sentiment by not slaughtering and consuming beef.After all we are not asking you or for that matter anybody to give up consuming meat,we are only asking you to stop slaughtering cows:coffee:
 
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