India’s growth already starting to sag

[Attila the Hun]

It is for all brown subcontinent people.

It stems from them saying "acha" a lot (to mean ok, very well, got it etc)

It is used in similar fashion to the many expletives used by others for chinese people that I don't think needs any introduction. "grey boy" has probably been called them to his face more than he can remember i bet.

Thank you very much kind sir.
@T-123456 my friend , you also report this 'grey boy 2' racist.

 

[Nilgiri]

Take it easy, my friend. Most of us have a day job and don't have the expertise nor the time to do "in-depth-research" for specific issues, so we reply on mainstream media for information. If you think mainstream media as a platter, you are surely entitled to your personal opinion.

And we should rely on the mainstream media for its portrayal of China recently? Why would they cover something so specific as education reform in India anyway? If you want specific answers you need to do specific research rather than give large generic statements. Or you ought to pose it as a question rather than statement of fact. I will be happy to try answer and explore the details side by side.

Sure, Modi has been in office for "just two years", but didn't he have a master plan to address the most pressing issues facing the nation when he was running for the office?

Yes and its already in action. By two years I mean its insufficient to gauge the results given instant data feed systems (another thing introduced only by this govt) have only just started to be introduced for real time monitoring/verification....be it for attendance, teacher training/accounting or physical infra.

So the old statistical sampling methods (which will be continued of course) need time to gather more data and analyse it....be it by govt or NGO.

90%+ of the relevant data out there in Indian education comes from before Modi even took power...and the vast portion of the rest is from his first year at best.

NO, I don't understand how "throwing public money at the education" as a bad thing. For Chinese, it is government's responsibility to provide best possible public education system to all citizens, and the private schools are for those who can afford extra expense. That's why the budget for education in China has been steadily increased since the market reform started in 80's, and it is now accounted for 4% of Chinese GDP, 3 times as much as China's military budget. It is THE best investment a country can do for its own future, so why it should be on back-burner? It is a Much wiser investment than tens of billions dollars spent on expensive foreign weapons, which create no job and yield no return for the future of a country.

You don't throw public money at a bad bureaucracy right off the bat. Most of the money will be wasted/unspent. What you should do is improve the bureaucracy, have end verification in place....and then increase their funding as required.....while in the meantime allowing the private sector to play its role as well under a framework of common standards.

I mean it was a regular feature of Indian bureaucracy that whatever % of GDP was allocated for education (normally between 3 - 4% depending on the year)....large amounts of it would remain unspent because of the terrible way it was designed and never changed even a little bit. And your proposal is to turn even more of the tap on? Sorry I would fix the fact the sink is both cracked and clogged first.

The Modi govt is 100% correct in its approach here. The number of bureaucrats that have been fired and replaced purely on merit and end-delivery is something that is unprecedented in Indian govt history.

Pumping more money in any govt related thing only works if the system is able to handle what it currently has and demonstrate efficient scaleability. If it can't thats when the private sector comes in....and the govt may just be better off subsidising that directly instead. Thats what the 1st term of Modi will show us and then make a very important decision path-wise on the future of education in the country.

Nothing of this sort of thing was even being considered by previous administrations (much less published thoroughly, piloted and implemented like is being done right now). And you just laugh it off as "window dressing".

As for the other countries in south Asian, I have nothing to say, because they do not have the ambitious as a superpower that India always wants to be.

So it excuses for talking about stuff you have little clue about? I appreciate criticism, but please make it factual when discussing the modi govt.

There are plenty of areas where this administration is underperforming....anything largely bureaucracy related (which is where the main problem in education, health, social welfare) are not one of them.....because Modi is a harsh taskmaster that demands results....rather than who you know or how much moolah you gave someone behind the scenes.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

India needs Pakistan's access to Afghanistan & Central Asia for sustained growth - and they (India) aren't going to get it

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Typical Indian loser mentality, whenever running out of answers in any argument, last resort as always="YOUR ENGLISH SUCK" well not too many people had the luxury of hundreds yrs of English lessons from your EX white slave master
Take this ahchai, keep up your day dreaming of catching up China, dream on cos its free

How disgusting can you people get, proudly racially abusing Pakistanis on their forum
@waz

 

[Nilgiri]

How disgusting can you people get, proudly racially abusing Pakistanis on their forum
@waz

I shudder to think what else they will be spouting if Indian and Pakistan economic profiles of their people living in Hong Kong were reversed (its pretty bad for the Pakistanis there compared to Indians and locals).

Posting the reality of that data (from HK govt stats) tends to silence them quite quickly when they start any nonsense about Indians socioeconomic profile in HK.

 

[Bad Guy]

The current administration has many windows dressing schemes, but lack a grand strategy that addresses more fundamental issue that India is facing.

More as a judgemental response.
India's socio economic indicators are up significantly every year.

For foreign weapons, their penetration has been declined from 70% to 40%. Our Defense exports are now $450 millions, 6 times up from past $76 millions. Ask for sources.
I can even get you about budget, infrastructure budget.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Well, problem with China and to a lesser extant with us as well is narrow nationalism. There is a belief in some kind of divine destiny. Like "China is BOUND to grow. China grew faster because Chinese are smarter". That kind of thinking.

Rank Country IQ
1

Hong Kong 108
1

Singapore 108
2

South Korea 106
3

Japan 105
3

China 105
4

Taiwan 104

25

India 82

 

[grey boy 2]

@waz @Aether @WebMaster @Irfan Baloch

Indian members report him. "Achai" is a racist slur against South Asians

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-o...why-is-it-used-to-describe-South-Asian-people

It is for all brown subcontinent people.

It stems from them saying "acha" a lot (to mean ok, very well, got it etc)

It is used in similar fashion to the many expletives used by others for chinese people that I don't think needs any introduction. "grey boy" has probably been called them to his face more than he can remember i bet.

How disgusting can you people get, proudly racially abusing Pakistanis on their forum
@waz

How low can you people get? using baseless self created accusation against me for posting the so-called "racial slur" will not save your bruised ego regarding how backward you Indians are comparing with China, we are simply not in the same league, plain and simple

AS for your fake accusation of me using racial slur "Acha" as reference,
(1) How is it related to my term of "Ahchai" which meaning "my friend" in cantonese in Hongkong?
(2) SPELLING is different, MEANING is different which meaning YOU have Nothing but "HOT AIR" to support your false accusation against me period
(3) Wolf gang style without "FACTS" to back up will get you nowhere as well. try harder please

Ahchai social capability defined
Understand that you're particularly sociable and as such, find important value in friendship. There is an exciting need to be surrounded by people who are interesting and faithful. Yes for you to maintain relationships there exists one prerequisite and that is for the friends to be loyal. Always listening and giving good advice, you are the ideal friend.
http://www.namekun.com/name-meaning-of/ahchai

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

It is seen in India as well. "India was the super power 5000 years ago".

With China it is hard to see facts as they are artifically kept hidden. There is no sepration of Enterprise and Government. A lot of losses of China are covered from her government coffers - in form of Local Financing Government Vehicles etc. What it leads to is the phenomenon which was seen in Soviet Union. Factories and townships are not stopped even if they are guarenteed to fail.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

@waz @Aether @WebMaster @Irfan Baloch

Indian members report him. "Achai" is a racist slur against South Asians

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-o...why-is-it-used-to-describe-South-Asian-people

Its Pakistan specific according to Hong Kong Govt, but used for all SA, probably similar to British racial slur for SAs

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Since in China Industry and Government is one - ie, China is one huge company, when these will go belly up, it will take entire country with it. Chinese modern prosperity is some 35-40 years old. I believe this kind of crash will happen in 20-30 years of timeframe and that will be end of Chinese economy.

Why did'nt u say u predicted China would be swallowed by a 10 richter scale earthquake tomorrow too.

 

[Nilgiri]

How is it related to my term of "Ahchai" which meaning "my friend" in cantonese in Hongkong?

Never heard it before. Lets see you type it out in chinese so I can verify.

Only used pang yao and derivatives when I was in HK.

 

[grey boy 2]

Here is the definition of "Indian style RACIST" being ignored by those so-called Indian moral victims, pathetic indeed

https://defence.pk/threads/chengdu-j-20-5th-generation-aircraft-updates-discussions.111471/page-434

Never heard it before. Lets see you type it out in chinese so I can verify.

Only used pang yao and derivatives when I was in HK.

You verify Nothing, google search does not made you a "HONGKONGER" please don't insult others wisdom
I can challenge your faked claim without efforts but its worthless against someone who does not want to wake up

 

[Nilgiri]

You verify Nothing, google search does not made you a "HONGKONGER" please don't insult others wisdom
I can challenge your faked claim without efforts but its worthless against someone who does not want to wake up

All I'm asking you is for the pinyin.

You should know very well that 差 is transliterated in english as both cha and chai given its sound in cantonese.

Just be a man and admit you used a slur instead of typical excessive chinese face saving.

No I am not going to google search. I will simply ask my cantonese friends if such a word has been used to mean "friend".

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

the reforms the current Indian government is implementing