Indians are Unhappy but Pakistanis get more joyful: UN report

[N.Siddiqui]

Among the eight SAARC nations, Pakistan was at 75, Bhutan at 97, Nepal at 101, Bangladesh at 115 while Sri Lanka was ranked 116. However, Maldives did not figure in the World Happiness Report.

In the attached graph, lower right, didn't know Dystopia(place or state in which everything is unpleasant or bad, like Indians...perception) is also one of the happiness(or the lack of it) indices. They, the Indians are suffering from perennial Dystopia and the funny thing is they didn't know they are suffering from that malaise and one of the predominant reason for their low ranking in happiness index.

But there are genuine reasons for that Dystopia...

 

[Lil Mathew]

Basically, the Ambanis, Adanis, Birlas and Tatas, of the world, essentially India’s rich, push up the average income of India i.e. the per capita income. As Wheelan writes: “The average income...could be heavily skewed by the megarich.”

In this scenario, the average income does not give us a correct picture. Further, it is safe to say, that the income of the average Indian is lower than the average income of India.

The median income of an Indian is still much lower than an average Pakistani. India ranks 2nd in the world with the most unequal distribution of wealth.

You are wrong here... 'New world wealth' itself clarified it...
India is actually 12th on the list of most unequal countries of the world. Millionaires hold 45% of its wealth – which although significant, is 9% less than the widely reported figure, according to Andrew Amoils, head of research at New World Wealth.

Media outlets had misread the numbers put out by his organisation or had assumed that India came second after Russia, Amoils told Scroll.in.
“I don’t know how this happened,” he said. “Maybe they misread the data or assumed India’s position. Indian millionaires control around 45% of total wealth in India. The figure of 54% that is floating around at the moment is not correct.”

More multi dimensional poverty in India than in Pakistan, yes the rich in India are richer but the vast millions below poverty level makes it irrelevant.

Again wrong information... Check latest multi dimensional poverty index...

All the above indices are measured in the world happiness index, including the GDP per capita, and it is not some subjective, superficial thing like anyone can be happy it is just a perception and state of mind.

You compleately missed "how world happiness index is calculated"???... In all these six sub bars India fared betbetter than Pakistan... The next bar- that is distopia bar, Pakistan scores big... Do you know how distopia score is calculated???

 

[313ghazi]

You are wrong here... 'New world wealth' itself clarified it...
India is actually 12th on the list of most unequal countries of the world. Millionaires hold 45% of its wealth – which although significant, is 9% less than the widely reported figure, according to Andrew Amoils, head of research at New World Wealth.

Media outlets had misread the numbers put out by his organisation or had assumed that India came second after Russia, Amoils told Scroll.in.
“I don’t know how this happened,” he said. “Maybe they misread the data or assumed India’s position. Indian millionaires control around 45% of total wealth in India. The figure of 54% that is floating around at the moment is not correct.”


Again wrong information... Check latest multi dimensional poverty index...


You compleately missed "how world happiness index is calculated"???... In all these six sub bars India fared betbetter than Pakistan... The next bar- that is distopia bar, Pakistan scores big... Do you know how distopia score is calculated???

See typical Indian mentality. This is why you people are miserable. You'd rather have hundreds of millions live in utter misery, than accept something negative about your own country. Look at your post, full of deflection, trying your best to discredit the report, rather than accept the facts.

It seems your entire happiness rests on if things are better than in Pakistan or not.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

You are wrong here... 'New world wealth' itself clarified it...
India is actually 12th on the list of most unequal countries of the world. Millionaires hold 45% of its wealth – which although significant, is 9% less than the widely reported figure, according to Andrew Amoils, head of research at New World Wealth.

This isn't the main point in the happiness index ranking, 2nd or 12th rank...as other media houses also overlooked that point.

Have mentioned the fallacy of higher GDP per capita for India(minuscule though) compared to Pakistan and thinking that Indians as a sum total are getting a higher income, all the population.


Basically, the Ambanis, Adanis, Birlas and Tatas, of the world, essentially India’s rich, push up the average income of India i.e. the per capita income. As Wheelan writes: “The average income...could be heavily skewed by the megarich.”

In this scenario, the average income does not give us a correct picture. Further, it is safe to say, that the income of the average Indian is lower than the average income of India.

 

[Lil Mathew]

In the attached graph, lower right, didn't know Dystopia(place or state in which everything is unpleasant or bad, like Indians...perception) is also one of the happiness(or the lack of it) indices. They, the Indians are suffering from perennial Dystopia and the funny thing is they didn't know they are suffering from that malaise and one of the predominant reason for their low ranking in happiness index.

But there are genuine reasons for that Dystopia...

Ha ha... Funny... Distopia is an imaginary country with world's least happy people... It's just a bench mark... Now from every country 1000-3000 people (sample) are surveyed... In this survey sample respondents are asked to think of a ladder, it asks respondents to think of a ladder, with the best possible life for them being a 10, and the worst possible life being a 0. They are then asked to rate their own current lives on that 0 to 10 scale. This contribute the distopia score...
Then six sub bars...It's calculation is also complex... The sub-bars show, tentatively, what share of a country’s overall score can be explained by each of the six factors . The sub-bars are calculated by multiplying average national data for the period 2015-2017 for each of the six factors (minus the value of that variable in Dystopia) by the coefficient on this variable in the first equation of Table. This product then shows the average amount by which the overall happiness score (the life evaluation) is higher in a country because they perform better than Dystopia on that variable.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

You compleately missed "how world happiness index is calculated"???... In all these six sub bars India fared betbetter than Pakistan... The next bar- that is distopia bar, Pakistan scores big... Do you know how distopia score is calculated???

Actually these detailed points are all mentioned by me...the report missed that details, the graphs were also included by me.




Not in Equity, Employment, Anti Corruption(highest bribery rate than Pakistan), Education(due to the quotas for SC/ST, OBC caste Indians are not happy), Health(poor government run hospitals, don't mention some fancy specialty hospitals and that Pak visits these hospitals, India has the worst healthcare system in the world(government run). Check the attached graph...the point is the India rank is way behind Pak, with more than 54 rank difference tells us about the fallacy of statistics or the falsehood you are trying to prove...end result matters.


No social support, no benevolence and charity, as for the slightly higher GDP per capita it is due to a very high equity of Ambanis, Adanis, Agarwals, Tata's and the likes of them, GDP per capita is the divided income of super rich of India with the total population of India ...it doesn't necessarily flows to the lowest poor of the India.

Distopia is an imaginary country with world's least happy people...

Here that imaginary country is for real...the opposite of Utopia. Can't blame anyone....

 

[Garian]

Depicting how pervasive the problem is across Asia, a list released by Forbes quotes the study as saying that at 69 per cent bribery rate, India beats Vietnam, Thailand, Pakistan and Myanmar — the most corrupt countries in Asia.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/india-is-most-corrupt-country-in-asia-forbes/460652.html


Pakistan has 10 universities in QS top 300 ranks and India's is around 42. Obviously India numbers will be higher wrt to population difference 210 million and 1.35 billion, in percentile Pakistan is doing better.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/qau-...rsities-from-pakistan-in-asia-top-350.543653/

That's bribery rate, happiness index takes into account Corruption perception index in which India much ahead of Pakistan.

Also the 42 Indian university have 9.22 times more students than the 10 Pakistani university combined.

 

[Lil Mathew]

Actually these detailed points are all mentioned by me...the report missed that details, the graphs were also included by me.




Not in Equity, Employment, Anti Corruption(highest bribery rate than Pakistan), Education(due to the quotas for SC/ST, OBC caste Indians are not happy), Health(poor government run hospitals, don't mention some fancy specialty hospitals and that Pak visits these hospitals, India has the worst healthcare system in the world(government run). Check the attached graph...the point is the India rank is way behind Pak, with more than 54 rank difference tells us about the fallacy of statistics or the falsehood you are trying to prove...end result matters.


No social support, no benevolence and charity, as for the slightly higher GDP per capita it is due to a very high equity of Ambanis, Adanis, Agarwals, Tata's and the likes of them, GDP per capita is the divided income of super rich of India with the total population of India ...it doesn't necessarily flows to the lowest poor of the India.

Again wrong... Almost all social indicators show Indians ahead of Pakistanis... HDI index, literacy, life expectancy, child mortality rate etc...
In global hungry index, multi dimensional poverty index etc... Pakistan is ahead...
How you correlate it with Ambani, Adani,Tata??

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Again wrong... Almost all social indicators show Indians ahead of Pakistanis... HDI index, literacy, life expectancy, child mortality rate etc...
In global hungry index, multi dimensional poverty index etc... Pakistan is ahead...
How you correlate it with Ambani, Adani,Tata??

You didn't get it...if the survey took a random group of say 5000 Indians an that includes all strata of the society, the super rich, to upper middle and to lower lower...and the people below the poverty lines, the higher per capita income assertion falls flat here..., the average income(per capita GDP also) does not give us a correct picture. Further, it is safe to say, that the income of the average Indian is lower than the average income of India.

 

[Lil Mathew]

Here that imaginary country is for real...the opposite of Utopia. Can't blame anyone....

This score has no connection with social indicators... It only measure how satisfied people??? Pakistanis took part in survey are satisfied... Indians are not satisfied... China, Honkong,Srilanka all are below Pakistan....
Do you know which country got max score in dystopia bar??? It's Somalia... Its place in this list is in 90s only because of poor performance in other six sub bars...

 

[N.Siddiqui]

This score has no connection with social indicators... It only measure how satisfied people??? Pakistanis took part in survey are satisfied... Indians are not satisfied... China, Honkong,Srilanka all are below Pakistan....
Do you know which country got max score in dystopia bar??? It's Somalia... Its place in this list is in 90s only because of poor performance in other six sub bars...

Social indicators looks good on paper if things are not practiced in letter and spirit...

Also many Indians in the comment section in the TOI has mentioned about caste based divisions, casteism, Quotas regarding SC/ST/OBC caste that makes the higher caste unhappy and not getting the due share in jobs and education.

The lower caste are unhappy because of a number of reasons...no need to divulge in details.

India is a huge diverse country and many a times that diversity turns into adversity regarding region and religion difference, between north and south, hatred between states on linguistic and cultural basis...so on and so forth.

This is the reason for that Dystopia looking inside out...when you measure the true tangible points for that intangible thing referred as Dystopia.

 

[xyxmt]

the one on top is always more joyful

I bet the happiest person on this planet to watch Indian media (news channels and/or soap opera) for one week only and see if they don't become the most depressed

 

[Areesh]

That's bribery rate, happiness index takes into account Corruption perception index in which India much ahead of Pakistan.

Also the 42 Indian university have 9.22 times more students than the 10 Pakistani university combined.

Pakistanis also have only 1 ID on PDF unlike a shameless bharati rat like you who has dozens

Multiple ID rat is back

@The Eagle @waz

 

[Chhatrapati]

Education(due to the quotas for SC/ST, OBC caste Indians are not happy)

That's BS/Ignorance, the only people I think will be unhappy about quotas will be a general category.

India has the worst healthcare system in the world(government run)

And you know that how?

The median income of an Indian is still much lower than an average Pakistani.

You completely debunked Gini index which shows inequality. Where Pakistan fares far worse than India. Not to mention your rank in the competetiveness index. Which shows the credibility of your data. You cannot say how an Average Indian and average Pakistani earns. Based on available data.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

That's BS/Ignorance, the only people I think will be unhappy about quotas will be a general category.

LOl that's what I have written, Indians are not happy about the quotas for SC/ST/OBC castes, anyone with average IQ will comprehend it.

You completely debunked Gini index which shows inequality. Where Pakistan fares far worse than India. Not to mention your rank in the competetiveness index. Which shows the credibility of your data. You cannot say how an Average Indian and average Pakistani earns. Based on available data.

It's not my written data or did I came up with this low happiness index for India...and even if the GINI coefficient is better for India, it is not showing here in the happiness index, this post is about it. If you read the earlier posts you will get to it.

And you know that how?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...peers-and-neighbours/articleshow/18805659.cms

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...le-development-goals-global-analysis-3043225/