Indian wars with neighbors

[SarthakGanguly]

We see here Indians bragging about how they have won all the wars she has fought. So I thought why not open a thread to collect some facts.

It is a known fact that India has been at wars with many of her neighbors since she is the major source of exporting cross-border terrorism in the region. Here is the list of some of the wars the modern day "India" has fought:


1948: War with Pakistan
Result: Sound defeat. Lost major part of Kashmir

1962: War with China
Result: Lost badly to China

1965: War with Pakistan
Result: Stalemate, ceasefire

1971: War with Pakistan (taking advantage of civil war in Pakistan)
Result: Pakistan lost Bangladesh

1987-1990: War in Sri Lanka
Result: Soundly defeated. Had to withdraw all the forces.

1999: War with Pakistan in Kargil
Result: Stalemate, ceasefire

So why is that Indians always brag about 1971, which was actually a civil war in Pakistan started by Indian trained terrorists but forget all the others where Indians were soundly defeated? Gloating about a situation, where it was almost next to impossible to defend East Pakistan because of its geographical location (where in order to reach from one part of Pakistan to the other you actually had to cross India first), is not really great heroism.


Could it be due to the hindutava enforced distortion of history, which is taught in their schools to keep war-mongering going on in the Indian mindsets? That greately suits fundamentalist nutcases like Modi.

What would it be like if for a change real history is taught in Indian schools?

Any ideas?

Brilliant write up. Wish you the best. I hope your books are taught at the PMA. We are weak and are have lost almost all wars. Spread this message.

 

[45'22']

you made my day!! although its 5:49pm here but I will laugh untill I sleep

I feel sad
This is what pdf has come down too

Trolls opening stupid threads

 

[Spectre]

We see here Indians bragging about how they have won all the wars she has fought. So I thought why not open a thread to collect some facts.

It is a known fact that India has been at wars with many of her neighbors since she is the major source of exporting cross-border terrorism in the region. Here is the list of some of the wars the modern day "India" has fought:


1948: War with Pakistan
Result: Sound defeat. Lost major part of Kashmir

1962: War with China
Result: Lost badly to China

1965: War with Pakistan
Result: Stalemate, ceasefire

1971: War with Pakistan (taking advantage of civil war in Pakistan)
Result: Pakistan lost Bangladesh

1987-1990: War in Sri Lanka
Result: Soundly defeated. Had to withdraw all the forces.

1999: War with Pakistan in Kargil
Result: Stalemate, ceasefire

So why is that Indians always brag about 1971, which was actually a civil war in Pakistan started by Indian trained terrorists but forget all the others where Indians were soundly defeated? Gloating about a situation, where it was almost next to impossible to defend East Pakistan because of its geographical location (where in order to reach from one part of Pakistan to the other you actually had to cross India first), is not really great heroism.


Could it be due to the hindutava enforced distortion of history, which is taught in their schools to keep war-mongering going on in the Indian mindsets? That greately suits fundamentalist nutcases like Modi.

What would it be like if for a change real history is taught in Indian schools?

Any ideas?

Kindly edit your post - India lost 1971 war too despite shamelessly capitalizing on internal nok-jhok between two brothers, fooling the gullible East Pakistani. Actually it was Indians who conducted Operation Searchlight in guise of Pakistani Forces.

Despite all the Indian treachery and guile they failed in their objective which was to Annex Bangladesh and Destroy West Pakistan. Since all wars have an objective, you can say India didn't achieve it's objective and thus lost the war.

Indian schools are nothing but Hindutva Terrorist producing factory where they are fed on lies about the bravery and courage of their pusillanimous armies who actually were soundly made to eat dirt on all occasions by much smaller armies of Pakistan. No wonder 70000000000000 Indian soldiers cannot control Kashmir where there are 100 Indian soldiers per Kashmiri.

What else can you expect from country where only peaceful and enlightened period was the brief visit of Islamic Warriors like Timur, Ghouri and Gazni.

@SarthakGanguly Kindly endorse my views

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Kindly edit your post - India lost 1971 war too despite shamelessly capitalizing on internal nok-jhok between two brothers, fooling the gullible East Pakistani. Actually it was Indians who conducted Operation Searchlight in guise of Pakistani Forces.

Despite all the Indian treachery and guile they failed in their objective which was to Annex Bangladesh and Destroy West Pakistan. Since all wars have an objective, you can say India lost in achieving it's objective and thus lost the war.

Indian schools are nothing but Hindutva Terrorist producing factory where they are fed on lies about the bravery and courage of their pusillanimous armies who actually were soundly made to eat dirt on all occasions by much smaller armies of Pakistan. No wonder 70000000000000 Indian soldiers cannot control Kashmir where there are 100 Indian soldiers per Kashmiri.

What else can you expect from country where only peaceful and enlightened period was the brief visit of Islamic Warriors like Timur, Ghouri and Gazni.

@SarthakGanguly Kindly endorse my views

What is there to endorse. Pakistan just shed their baggage. We think we broke them. Actually we did them a service. They actually always wanted to leave East Pakistan. In the West, they annihilated our positions and were about to enter Delhi unopposed. It was a close call, but the last man standing was certainly Pakistan.

 

[Spectre]

What is there to endorse. Pakistan just shed their baggage. We think we broke them. Actually we did them a service. They actually always wanted to leave East Pakistan. In the West, they annihilated our positions and were about to enter Delhi unopposed. It was a close call, but the last man standing was certainly Pakistan.

Thank you, al-least you know your history unlike the other deluded Indians. We should import and distribute history text-books from Pakistan for our children so that atleast our next generation knows their place.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Thank you, al-least you know you history unlike the other deluded Indians. We should import and distribute history text-books from Pakistan and give them to our children so that atleast our next generation knows their place.

I have always appreciated the brave historians of Pakistan for authoring the Pakistan studies. Going against popular fantastical perception and along the path of Truth is not an easy task.

 

[coffee_cup]

Kindly edit your post - India lost 1971 war too despite shamelessly capitalizing on internal nok-jhok between two brothers, fooling the gullible East Pakistani. Actually it was Indians who conducted Operation Searchlight in guise of Pakistani Forces.

Despite all the Indian treachery and guile they failed in their objective which was to Annex Bangladesh and Destroy West Pakistan. Since all wars have an objective, you can say India didn't achieve it's objective and thus lost the war.

Indian schools are nothing but Hindutva Terrorist producing factory where they are fed on lies about the bravery and courage of their pusillanimous armies who actually were soundly made to eat dirt on all occasions by much smaller armies of Pakistan. No wonder 70000000000000 Indian soldiers cannot control Kashmir where there are 100 Indian soldiers per Kashmiri.

What else can you expect from country where only peaceful and enlightened period was the brief visit of Islamic Warriors like Timur, Ghouri and Gazni.

@SarthakGanguly Kindly endorse my views

Your failed try of sarcasm aside, hard facts remain hard facts.

India lost to China in 1962 --> hard fact
India lost badly in Sri Lanka and had to withdraw --> hard fact
Pakistan freed a significant part of Kashmir in 1948 --> hard fact
Pakistan lost in 1971 --> also a hard fact.

1965 and 1999 were at best pretty much a tie.
But given the size of Indian military it could very well be counted as a defeat for them, since they could not defeat a miliatry 7-8 times smaller than themselves. And since Pakistan held a 7-8 times hostile war monger and did not let them win, it could be considered a victory for Pakistan!

 

[Spectre]

Your failed try of sarcasm aside, hard facts remain hard facts.

India lost to China in 1962 --> hard fact
India lost badly in Sri Lanka and had to withdraw --> hard fact
Pakistan freed a significant part of Kashmir in 1948 --> hard fact

1965 and 1999 were at best pretty much a tie. But given the size of Indian military it could very well be counted as a defeat for them, since they could not defeat a miliatry 7-8 times smaller than themselves.

Pakistan lost in 1971 also a hard fact.

Sorry that wasn't sarcasm but acceptance.

I would defer to you wisdom in this as in all other things after all my delusions enforced by the Indian educational system is hardly a reliable guidance for my posts.

 

[coffee_cup]

I have always appreciated the brave historians of Pakistan for authoring the Pakistan studies. Going against popular fantastical perception and along the path of Truth is not an easy task.

You seem to appreciate a lot of things. Such as the brilliant Hindutava inspired "love and peace" that they bestow upon minorities.

Modi's "kind hearted" gestures such as banning beef and giving free hand to "peaceniks" such as VHP, RSS and co. to spread his message of "love".

Modi's role in showering rose petals on minority Muslims in Gujrat and presenting his other cheek to be slapped to show how peace loving person he is.

Yeah man, you admire a lot of things about India including Indian "Secularism".

 

[Yaduveer]

1971: War with Pakistan (taking advantage of civil war in Pakistan)
Result: Pakistan lost Bangladesh

1987-1990: War in Sri Lanka
Result: Soundly defeated. Had to withdraw all the forces.

1999: War with Pakistan in Kargil
Result: Stalemate, ceasefire

1.You are WRONG. There was no ceasefire in Kargil war. India acheived it's War Objective and Pakistan did not.India regained possession of Kargil

2. regarding 1948, You are very much wrong. When Pakistan attacked Kashmir, Kashmir was an independent state.After the attack , Kashmir signed accession to India. So It was India who freed Kashmir from Pakistani occupation not other way round.

If You are not color blind , then you see 3 colours during attack by Pakistan on Kashmir.

 

[Whazzup]

1.You are WRONG. There was no ceasefire in kargil war. India acheived it's War Objective and Pakistan did not.

2. regarding 1948, You are very much wrong. When Pakistan attacked Kashmir, Kashmir was an independent state.

War objective doesn't mean jack in Pakistan . Or they'll loose so many wars as Kashmir still belongs to us

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

War objective doesn't mean jack in Pakistan . Or they'll loose so many wars as Kashmir still belongs to us

Did'nt realize india rules over all of Kashmir.

 

[Whazzup]

Did'nt realize india rules over all of Kashmir.

Arre na re here the map for u.

Kargil was fought for Kashmir and who control Srinagar?
War objectives are important (if you wanna claim a victory.)

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Arre na re here the map for u.

Kargil was fought for Kashmir and who control Srinagar?
War objectives are important (if you wanna claim a victory.)

Is that pic. accurate?.........in all honesty I thought india owns a much larger part of Kashmir. Personally surprised. Even the Chinese own a part. Very interesting indeed.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You seem to appreciate a lot of things. Such as the brilliant Hindutava inspired "love and peace" that they bestow upon minorities.

Modi's "kind hearted" gestures such as banning beef and giving free hand to "peaceniks" such as VHP, RSS and co. to spread his message of "love".

Modi's role in showering rose petals on minority Muslims in Gujrat and presenting his other cheek to be slapped to show how peace loving person he is.

Yeah man, you admire a lot of things about India including Indian "Secularism".

Oh come on. We elected Modi for a purpose.