Indian village will boycott love marriages from now on

[Andhadhun]

christian ones will have that anglo saxon influence regardless of whether they are Pakistanis or indians or what have you.

Yes, these women certainly seem like Anglo Saxon women , ready to jump into bed.

In fact, one could easily mistaken them for American women. lol.

 

[jamahir]

Lovely. So this stupid decision comes from Punjab, the land of the legendary love stories of Heer-Ranjha and Sohni-Mahiwal.

Their village, their rules. End of the day the Law will prevail.

But being ostracized in the village is a real thing.

You have a problem with their choice ?

Any rule or regulation should first stand the test of common sense, humanism and intelligence. Anything contrary to these should be removed or not adopted.

End of the day the Law will prevail.

What law do you mean ??

So dalit can't marry a Brahmin main reason why this rule is imposed to save family honour

Punjab state is a Sikh-majority state. I don't know how many Brahmin Hindus live there.

And this issue is not only about Sikh-Dalit love stories but also is about Sikh-Sikh love stories.

And you are right about the family honor angle.

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@Jyotish Kailashkumar , your thread poll is missing one option : Marriage, whether love or arranged, as long as the man and woman are happy.

 

[Andhadhun]

Any rule or regulation should first stand the test of common sense, humanism and intelligence. Anything contrary to these shou

So what makes you think that this rule does not follow the tenets of common sense, humanism and intelligence ?

That is just elitist arrogance that comes from a total ignorance of how life operates in villages of India.

What law do you mean ??

The constitution of India.

Punjab state is a Sikh-majority state. I don't know how many Brahmin Hindus live there.

And this issue is not only about Sikh-Dalit love stories but also is about Sikh-Sikh love stories.

And you are right about the family honor angle.

There is also the Gotra angle.

@Jyotish Kailashkumar , your thread poll is missing one option : Marriage, whether love or arranged, as long as the man and woman are happy.

As long as you live in society, Marriage is a social contract too.

If drugs makes a man or women happy, should they be allowed ? Don't peddle such childish argument.

 

[terry5]

Arranged marriage by parents relatives hardly ever end in divorce .
Whereas divorce rate is high in love marriage and religious marriage .

 

[Andhadhun]

Arranged marriage by parents relatives hardly ever end in divorce .
Whereas divorce rate is high in love marriage and religious marriage .

Arranged marriages by parents might not end in divorce, but it does not guarantee a happy marriage either.

OTOH your PM imran khan married 3 times to find happiness.

Its funny when he advocates for dialog with India to resolve issues when he himself could not resolve issues with his ex-wives. See the irony here ?

 

[Sugarcane]

"Love marriage" can be arranged as well unless "love marriage" here means eloping only.

 

[jamahir]

Arranged marriage by parents relatives hardly ever end in divorce .
Whereas divorce rate is high in love marriage and religious marriage .

That is because, in traditional desi arranged marriages, the woman is expected to put up with abusive marriage and not complain.

Remember that in Islam, a marriage is a legal contract that can be terminated via divorce. So in Islam divorce is not a bad thing.

So what makes you think that this rule does not follow the tenets of common sense, humanism and intelligence ?

How is this humanism when it deprives, takes away or suppresses the mutual decision taken by a love couple ??

That is just elitist arrogance that comes from a total ignorance of how life operates in villages of India.

No elitist arrogance.

Just that I am not being romantic about rural life.

There is also the Gotra angle.

I roughly know that a Gotra has something to do with family line but I didn't know that the Sikhs follow it too.

As long as you live in society, Marriage is a social contract to.

A marriage should not exist to make the society happy but something to make the couple happy.

If drugs makes a man or women happy, should they be allowed ? Don't peddle such childish argument.

Your reasoning is illogical.

 

[Andhadhun]

"Love marriage" can be arranged as well unless "love marriage" here means eloping only.

This rule is to put pressure on families to oppose such love marriages that is arranged. There probably is a caste, religion and gotra angle to this.

Also to stop families to not take back anyone who has eloped and got married.

 

[jamahir]

"Love marriage" can be arranged as well unless "love marriage" here means eloping only.

They are not talking about eloping but about any marriage where the decision to marry comes from the man and woman.

 

[Andhadhun]

How is this humanism when it deprives, takes away or suppresses the mutual decision taken by a love couple ??

Since the love couple did not take societal approval, there is no burden on the society to approve them at a later stage.

I roughly know that a Gotra has something to do with family line but I didn't know that the Sikhs follow it too.

I know for certain that Jat Sikhs have gotra. Maybe Khatris too. I am sure there are a few more.

A marriage should not exist to make the society happy but something to make the couple happy.

A marriage should not cause disturbance in society either. The society can choose to accept or reject the couple's ideas. Couples too have to respect social norms or has to move away to another society that is more compatible to their ideas.

Your reasoning is illogical.

Prove it.

 

[Sugarcane]

They are not talking about eloping but about any marriage where the decision to marry comes from the man and woman.

I see, I didn't read whole article earlier. How and Who will decide that couple wasn't in love before marriage?

 

[Andhadhun]

I see, I didn't read whole article earlier. How and Who will decide that couple wasn't in love before marriage?

Khap panchayat is my best bet.

 

[jamahir]

Since the love couple did not take societal approval, there is no burden on the society to approve them at a later stage.

And what if the society or much of it, is primitive and does not have the collective intelligence to take wise decisions ??

A marriage should not cause disturbance in society either. The society can choose to accept or reject the couple's ideas. Couples too have to respect social norms or has to move away to another society that is more compatible to their ideas.

We are not talking about gay marriages, yes ??

Prove it.

How is a marriage related to consumption of drugs ??

I see, I didn't read whole article earlier. How and Who will decide that couple wasn't in love before marriage?

Well, it will have to be a lucky couple who get married with their love not being known to the self-elected village elders.

Khap panchayat is my best bet.

These khap panchayats must be dissolved in favor of a just society.

 

[Andhadhun]

And what if the society or much of it, is primitive and does not have the collective intelligence to take wise decisions ??

LOL.... so you are planing to take "wise decisions" for them ?

The same way PA takes "wise decisions" for the pakistani public and decides their fate ?

We are not talking about gay marriages, yes ??

We are talking about all marraiges.

How is a marriage related to consumption of drugs ??

We are talking about providing sanction for "whatever makes you happy" logic.

Well, it will have to be a lucky couple who get married with their love not being known to the self-elected village elders.

Marriage is a social act. How can it be hidden from the village ?

These khap panchayats must be dissolved in favor of a just society.

Khap panchayats exist to ensure justice and protect society and its norms.

 

[jamahir]

Khap panchayats exist to ensure justice and protect society and its norms.

Since when did khap panchayats become justice-providing socialist movements ??

As for "protect", why preserve rules that are the opposite of justice ??

Marriage is a social act. How can it be hidden from the village ?

Agreed. Marriage is a social act and a social contract that seeks to provide a legal clause around a relationship so that especially the woman is not at the receiving end of a casually ending of the relationship by the man.

That in a nutshell is what the Islamic marriage is all about.