Indian tea tastes success in China

[Fattyacids]

Well Tibet was annexed in 1960's...so was Taiwan...Hongkong came in 1999. If you are looking your country from the point of view than..Bharat was unified during the same period under Ashoka the great and During the Maurya dynasty. Use the same telescope while you view things..do not use different parameters.

Size of territory changes throughout history, the concept of centralized China under one emperor never changed since 221BC.

Maurya ended in185 BC, from then to 1850, there was no unified country in South Asia. That is 2000 yrs in total.

I use the same exact parameters, as per academic historians.

 

[Jayanta]

Tea, Camellia sinensis, was originally found in China! Scottish botanist, Robert Fortune, was the man who took Tea from China to British plantation in India.

The Camellia sinensis was stolen..that is true..but it never grew in India because of the climatic differences. But the tea from Assam is Camellia assamica a different species altogether. It was discovered 10 years after it was smuggled by Fortune. Robert Bruce discovered tea in Assam, and the British were confused because it looked and tasted different from the Chinese tea.

Tea production in India started with the identification of tea germplasm in the state of Assam in 1823 by Robert Bruce. Consequently, the most of the global cultivated area for tea has received its basic planting material directly or indirectly from the enhanced germplasm in India [2]. The cultivated tea varieties of south India belong to different species such as Camellia sinensis, Camellia assamica and Camellia assamica spp. lasiocalyx[3].Although the exact origin of tea cultivars is still a subject of debate, the varietal differentiation relies on their geographical origins in terms of provenance from China, Assam or Cambod. However, all caffeine-producing teas were also classified under the name C. sinensis (L.) O. Kuntze, irrespective of their taxonomic variation [4], [5],[6] and [7].

Genetic diversity among south Indian tea germplasm (Camellia sinensis, C. assamica and C. assamica spp. lasiocalyx) using AFLP markers

And a link to this BBC documentary...hope you can view it as its on youtube. Go to 32 min...

 

[INDIC]

Size of territo
ry changes throughout history, the concept of centralized China under one emperor never changed since 221BC.

Maurya ended in185 BC, from then to 1850, there was no unified country in South Asia. That is 2000 yrs in total.

I use the same exact parameters, as per academic historians.

Did a centralized China ever exist before 1949-50.

 

[Fattyacids]

The Camellia sinensis was stolen..that is true..but it never grew in India because of the climatic differences. But the tea from Assam is Camellia assamica a different species altogether. It was discovered 10 years after it was smuggled by Fortune. Robert Bruce discovered tea in Assam, and the British were confused because it looked and tasted different from the Chinese tea.

Tea production in India started with the identification of tea germplasm in the state of Assam in 1823 by Robert Bruce. Consequently, the most of the global cultivated area for tea has received its basic planting material directly or indirectly from the enhanced germplasm in India [2]. The cultivated tea varieties of south India belong to different species such as Camellia sinensis, Camellia assamica and Camellia assamica spp. lasiocalyx[3].Although the exact origin of tea cultivars is still a subject of debate, the varietal differentiation relies on their geographical origins in terms of provenance from China, Assam or Cambod. However, all caffeine-producing teas were also classified under the name C. sinensis (L.) O. Kuntze, irrespective of their taxonomic variation [4], [5],[6] and [7].

Genetic diversity among south Indian tea germplasm (Camellia sinensis, C. assamica and C. assamica spp. lasiocalyx) using AFLP markers

And a link to this BBC documentary...hope you can view it as its on youtube. Go to 32 min...

LOL, why quote me an article from your indian source. We don't know reliable they are.

A simple search will tell you where did Camellia Assamica came from? It came Camellia Sinensis from China. Assamica is just a different sub variety of Camellia!!!!

The BBC documentary says exactly what I've posted. Robert Fortune took Tea to India. It's based on the book by Sarah Rose

For All the Tea in China: How England Stole the World's Favorite Drink and ... - Sarah Rose - Google Books

 

[INDIC]

Tea, Camellia sinensis, was originally found in China! Scottish botanist, Robert Fortune, was the man who took Tea from China to British plantation in India.

Book review of "For All the Tea in China" by Sarah Rose


The Tea Thieves: How A Drink Shaped An Empire : NPR


Food Culture in India - Colleen Taylor Sen - Google Books

The Indian tea variety were found grown in the wild in India, it was never imported from China or anywhere.

 

[Fattyacids]

Did a centralized China ever exist before 1949-50.

By academic and historians, centralized and unified since 221 BC.

You're going to start another round of brainless fabrication of history?

The Indian tea variety were found grown in the wild in India, it was never imported from China or anywhere.

Take your brainless antics to your Indian forum, facts are facts. How Robert Fortune took tea to India is well documented in books and documentary.

 

[INDIC]

Take your brainless antics to your Indian forum, facts are facts. How Robert Fortune took tea to India is well documented in books and documentary.

Show me its a fact, since you claim everything as fact.

PLANT CULTURES - Assam Tea


Tea - Assam
Wild tea plants in Assam, India, do not produce a palatable brew, and present day cultivation of tea in India is owing to British commercial interests in the 19th century. For some years, rumours suggested that tea might also be indigenous to India. Sir Joseph Banks was among observers of tea plants growing wild in the hills of Nepal in 1788.
Mystery tea

In 1815 it was noticed that the people of Assam drank a tea from locally growing plants, but identification of these as tea plants proved inconclusive. In 1823, a Major Robert Bruce had also learnt of the existence of tea in Assam and sent samples to the East India Company's Botanic Gardens at Calcutta, who declined to confirm that the samples were tea. Lieutenant Charlton, who was on service in Assam in 1831, sent plants to the Agricultural and Horticultural Society in Calcutta with the observation that the leaves were drunk as an infusion in Assam, and that they tasted of Chinese tea when dried. Charlton's plants were also denied official recognition.

Official recognition

It was not until Christmas Eve of 1834, when Charles Alexander Bruce, Robert Bruce's brother, sent samples to Calcutta, that the true identity of the plant was finally confirmed to be tea, or more accurately, Assam tea. It is now known botanically as Camellia sinensis var. assamica. Subsequently there was huge controversy between Charlton and Charles Alexander Bruce as to which of them was the first to 'discover' tea in India.

It was found that a tea could be manufactured from Assam tea which was in some ways superior to China tea. Tea planting became popular and there was great demand for land and seed. Thus seed gardens were established with whatever seed was available in many cases. Some were pure China, some pure Assam and some were deliberately interplanted with both types. Thus Indian hybrid tea was formed, which has great variability and vigour. This was undoubtedly the most important event in the evolution of the commercial tea plant.

 

[Fattyacids]

Show me its a fact, since you claim everything as fact.

PLANT CULTURES - Assam Tea


Tea - Assam
Wild tea plants in Assam, India, do not produce a palatable brew, and present day cultivation of tea in India is owing to British commercial interests in the 19th century. For some years, rumours suggested that tea might also be indigenous to India. Sir Joseph Banks was among observers of tea plants growing wild in the hills of Nepal in 1788.
Mystery tea

In 1815 it was noticed that the people of Assam drank a tea from locally growing plants, but identification of these as tea plants proved inconclusive. In 1823, a Major Robert Bruce had also learnt of the existence of tea in Assam and sent samples to the East India Company's Botanic Gardens at Calcutta, who declined to confirm that the samples were tea. Lieutenant Charlton, who was on service in Assam in 1831, sent plants to the Agricultural and Horticultural Society in Calcutta with the observation that the leaves were drunk as an infusion in Assam, and that they tasted of Chinese tea when dried. Charlton's plants were also denied official recognition.

Official recognition

It was not until Christmas Eve of 1834, when Charles Alexander Bruce, Robert Bruce's brother, sent samples to Calcutta, that the true identity of the plant was finally confirmed to be tea, or more accurately, Assam tea. It is now known botanically as Camellia sinensis var. assamica. Subsequently there was huge controversy between Charlton and Charles Alexander Bruce as to which of them was the first to 'discover' tea in India.

It was found that a tea could be manufactured from Assam tea which was in some ways superior to China tea. Tea planting became popular and there was great demand for land and seed. Thus seed gardens were established with whatever seed was available in many cases. Some were pure China, some pure Assam and some were deliberately interplanted with both types. Thus Indian hybrid tea was formed, which has great variability and vigour. This was undoubtedly the most important event in the evolution of the commercial tea plant.

Typical indian antics, quoting from random indian source, how credible????

Try something more professional:

UK Tea Council - Tea - A Brief History of the Nation's Favourite Beverage

But tea drinking certainly became established in China many centuries before it had even been heard of in the west. Containers for tea have been found in tombs dating from the Han dynasty(206 BC - 220 AD) but it was under the Tang dynasty (618-906 AD), that tea became firmly established as the national drink of China. It became such a favourite that during the late eighth century a writer called Lu Yu wrote the first book entirely about tea, the Ch'a Ching, or Tea Classic. It was shortly after this that tea was first introduced to Japan, by Japanese Buddhist monks who had travelled to China to study. Tea drinking has become a vital part of Japanese culture, as seen in the development of the Tea Ceremony, which may be rooted in the rituals described in the Ch'a Ching.

For All the Tea in China: How England Stole the World's Favorite Drink and ... - Sarah Rose - Google Books

The Great British Tea Heist | History & Archaeology | Smithsonian Magazine

Camellia sinensis

 

[INDIC]

By academic and historians, centralized and unified since 221 BC.

You're going to start another round of brainless fabrication of history?.

such a fancy terminology for the faked history.

 

[akshay gehlot]

By academic and historians, centralized and unified since 221 BC.

You're going to start another round of brainless fabrication of history?



Take your brainless antics to your Indian forum, facts are facts. How Robert Fortune took tea to India is well documented in books and documentary.

ok china came before india happy.
who cares who invented tea ,
did china invent mobiles or laptops or any other electronic device or cars but it is making billions exporting them , nobody goes to apple store and tell them that he/she is not buying the iphone because its made in china.
chinas whole economy is based on making other peoples stuff and thats wahat happening here with indian tea being more popular in china because of its low price same as chinese things being more popular in the entire world because of being cheap

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The British brought tea to India from China, but Indian tea traders are now coming back to the Land of the Dragon with ever greater quantities of their black tea.

So tea was brought to India by the British, from China?

No wonder Indians refer to tea using the word "chai". The original Chinese word for tea is of course "cha".

 

[Jayanta]

LOL, why quote me an article from your indian source. We don't know reliable they are.

A simple search will tell you where did Camellia Assamica came from? It came Camellia Sinensis from China. Assamica is just a different sub variety of Camellia!!!!

The BBC documentary says exactly what I've posted. Robert Fortune took Tea to India. It's based on the book by Sarah Rose

For All the Tea in China: How England Stole the World's Favorite Drink and ... - Sarah Rose - Google Books

First, you need to watch the whole episode...second you need to read botany and learn the difference between genus and species and variety
Third you have to have some clue about international science journals and Plant science is an international journal.
Plant Science - Journal - Elsevier

Wanna debate with experts here is the link. But please read a little botany before you open your mouth in front of them. That is not PDF..
Genetic diversity of camellia sinensis. v. sinensis and v. assamica | LinkedIn

 

[Fattyacids]

such a fancy terminology for the faked history.

When are you going to stop your brainless antics?

 

[Srinivas]

So tea was brought to India by the British, from China?

No wonder Indians refer to tea using the word "chai". The original Chinese word for tea is of course "cha".

We do not believe in British history either, they manipulated it completely and made it look India is a group of small kingdoms and they have united and created India, in fact it is not.

Historic perspective of Indians need to change.

 

[Fattyacids]

First, you need to watch the whole episode...second you need to read botany and learn the difference between genus and species and variety
Third you have to have some clue about international science journals and Plant science is an international journal.
Plant Science - Journal - Elsevier

Wanna debate with experts here is the link. But please read a little botany before you open your mouth in front of them. That is not PDF..
Genetic diversity of camellia sinensis. v. sinensis and v. assamica | LinkedIn

The BBC documentary says exactly what Sarah Rose wrote.
China was the first to use tea for consumption. Also, the first to cultivate tea.

All tea came from the plant Camellia Sinensis in China. Other sub-species came from Camellia Sinensis. Robert Fortune was the man who took tea from China to India. These are all well documented. It would take a fool to spin his the other way and argue otherwise.

Third you have to have some clue about international science journals and Plant science is an international journal.
Plant Science - Journal - Elsevier

It didn't say anything to prove otherwise that Camellia Sinensis is original species from China, LOL.

Genetic diversity of camellia sinensis. v. sinensis and v. assamica | LinkedIn

Are you aware you posted a page from linkedin? I'm not hiring.