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He was shot in the neck.Did the helmet fail or the gun?
Look around the world- no world class SF unit (Russia, US, UK,France, Italy, Spain, Canada etc etc) is using homemade weaponary.None of the SF forces are using INSAS or desi gear, something must be done to make the SF get rid of their love for phoren maal.
He wasn't serving in the SF anymore, he had been in 21 Para (SF) but was the CO of 41 RR when he was killed.Meanwhile in Kashmir a SF operator of the elite 21 PARA SF lost his life due to this...Indian maal
Dd a bullet penetrate his helmet?
Lets do one thing ...Lets start with you going on the LOC with an INSAS rather than "phoren maal" rather than you talking from your AC room chilling on your couch.
Meanwhile in Kashmir a SF operator of the elite 21 PARA SF lost his life due to this...Indian maal
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He was shot multiple times by full automatic fire in the head anf neck and the wound to the neck is what proved fatal.headshot penetrating the patka...or maybe a neckshot followed by a soldier inserting a screw driver to make it look like a headshot.
So he lost his SF operator tag and badge after voluntarily joining RR according to you?
He was hit in the neck- nothing any BPJ or helmet can do about that.
Every time a soldier is killed in JK we see this knee-jerk "give them proper helmets/BPJs" response but look at the pics- the RR are equipped with very decent BPJs and the Patak is good at its role. There is no such thing as "bullet proof"- only bullet resistent and when engaged at close range by 7.62mm automatic fire (as this unit was) no amount of protective equipment is going to offer you adequte protection. US soldiers are still killed by small arms fire too- one cannot elimnate all risk from combat- this is the nature of combat,
The kind og BPJs the RR are now being issued (and was used by this officer ad his unit) do not have any neck protector:Well, unfortunately in this case, the BPJ does need to be apportioned a significant part of the blame. The standard BPJ of the IA was intended to provide all round protection to the neck against 7.62x39 at 10m. Unfortunately, the design is flawed; the BPJ is a loose fit around the neck, so much so it takes minimum movement for the section protecting the neck to slide down/unravel and expose the neck.
There is also a problem, mostly among the CAPF, of keeping the neck protector lowered to improve comfort. That defeats the very rationale of keeping those protector.
The term 'bullet proof' is fairly accurate for steel/carbide plate based BPJs used by the IA. They are required and designed to conform to protection requirement of safety against 7.62x39 @ 10m from the gun. And being made of metal as against ceramic, these armor plates will hold against multiple hits, it's another issue that the person will almost certainly suffer broken ribs.
I remember one of the accounts of an officer who lunged at a militant during an encounter in the forests of tral, 2009-10(?) and took a long burst of Ak rounds around his chest and stomach region at point-blank range. His armor protected him and he made quick work of the militant, It is another matter that he suffered from broken ribs and internal bleeding. He won a bravery award for his actions during this encounter.