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its not first time huriyyat meets pakistan in dehli why so much crying this time ????????

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Hurriyat leader Shabir Ahmad Shah (left) with Pakistan envoy Abdul Basit



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Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz (R) meeting All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC), Mirwaiz Umar Farooq


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Pakistan High Commissioner to India Abdul Basit (L) with chairman of All Parties Hurriyat


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president Musharraf meet huriyaar leaders

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Pakistani foreign secretary Jalil Abbas Jilani and Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani


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Mirwaiz Umar Farooq (right) at the Eid Milan hosted by Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit, in New Delhi on Tuesday.


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syed ali gellani with pakistan envoy
 
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huriyyat mission meet then PM raja parvez ashraf



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Mirwaiz Umar Farooq with Pakistani envoy Abdul Basit

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JKLF chief Yasin Malik arrives to meet the Deputy High Commissioner of Pakistan

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Mirwaiz Mohammad Umar Farooq, Chairman of All Parties Hurriyat Conference with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari ...

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A Hurriyat delegation led by Mirwaiz Umar Farooq with Pakistan foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar

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Hardline Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani with the former Prime Minister of Pakistani Kashmir
 
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its not first time huriyyat meets pakistan in dehli why so much crying this time ????????

Aise he Imran bhai, tum green line lagao, hum red line marte hain. fir tum white line aur hum blue line.

Ye kashmir ka discussion hai. No logic will work :D
 
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i think we just solve it once forever little bit give and take and make LOC border .
Yes. Totally agree. But, then it is not that simple. Will finish lunch and then will post my problem with this 'simple' solution.
 
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then how long we can hold this shit ? aik na aik din hamary bachy hum par hansy gay ke kesy pagal log thy hum

India does not want peace with Pakistan. It want to take over all the Kashmir AND make Pakistan a puppet state and in constant terror infestation . It's best that all Pakistani realize this.
 
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i think we just solve it once forever little bit give and take and make LOC border .
It's what India is suggesting now, take it or leave it but if the issue drags on like this and at same time India races far far ahead of Pakistan in every sphere including spreading of terrorism then I guess India would revise it's demand to access to Afghanistan via Kashmir. Think about that, dragging of issue will work in our favour only.
 
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i think we just solve it once forever little bit give and take and make LOC border .

There is no other option.

PA does not agree. Example Siachen , all it has to do is sign to commence withdrawal.
 
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then how long we can hold this shit ? aik na aik din hamary bachy hum par hansy gay ke kesy pagal log thy hum

Below is what, I feel, a medium term problem.

One of the mainstays of Pakistani policy has been Kashmir. 3 declared wars, 1 undeclared war and a number of stand offs have taken place because of the same. Based on this policy a number of initiatives, by means of supporting varied organisations have taken place. Let us not get into how the support was provided. Because, of these the solution will give rise to problems in 4 areas.

Area 1 : Pakistan Administered Kashmir / Azad Kashmir
The people here need to be now told, that the 2 state theory holds. There is no scope for an independent Kashmir. They either become a part of Pakistan or migrate to India. There will be no change in geographies. This needs to be handled very carefully.

This will create two sets of people. The first set is happy a solution is found and either become happy Pakistani citizens or they decide to move to India and become Indian citizens. They integrate with their country of choice and live happily ever after. The second set, is the joker int he pack, If they are disgruntled with the solution, they will vent their frustrations via either joining a virulent extremist organisation like ISIS or they will create a situation which makes the situation untenable like the deaths during Partition. These groups are already pissed with India. Now, they will be even pissed with Pakistan. How will this be handled?

Area 2 : Indian Administered Kashmir / Jammu & Kashmir
Again, same sets of people. HC will need to be told to soften their stand and back down. Which, I think, can be achieved if India and Pakistan work together on this.

Area 3 : India
Indians will be happy. Believe me on this. Convert the LoC to IB. Get on with life. The fringe elements will have heated debates and shouting matches on tv. This is the maximum which will happen.

Area 4 : Pakistan
How will Pakistanis react to this? If the Kashmir problem is solved, what will all the organisations which are specifically anti India do? Solving Kashmir will ensure that the Pakistani state no longer has any use for them? I think, this isa very dangerous situation.

Would be nice to know what other members think and how they think this can be handled?

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Below is what, I feel, a medium term problem.

One of the mainstays of Pakistani policy has been Kashmir. 3 declared wars, 1 declared war and a number of stand offs have taken place because of the same. Based on this policy a number of initiatives, by means of supporting varied organisations have taken place. Let us not get into how the support was provided. Because, of these the solution will give rise to problems in 4 areas.

Area 1 : Pakistan Administered Kashmir / Azad Kashmir
The people here need to be now told, that the 2 state theory holds. There is no scope for an independent Kashmir. They either become a part of Pakistan or migrate to India. There will be no change in geographies. This needs to be handled very carefully.

This will create two sets of people. The first set is happy a solution is found and either become happy Pakistani citizens or they decide to move to India and become Indian citizens. They integrate with their country of choice and live happily ever after. The second set, is the joker int he pack, If they are disgruntled with the solution, they will vent their frustrations via either joining a virulent extremist organisation like ISIS or they will create a situation which makes the situation untenable like the deaths during Partition. These groups are already pissed with India. Now, they will be even pissed with Pakistan. How will this be handled?

Area 2 : Indian Administered Kashmir / Jammu & Kashmir
Again, same sets of people. HC will need to be told to soften their stand and back down. Which, I think, can be achieved if India and Pakistan work together on this.

Area 3 : India
Indians will be happy. Believe me on this. Convert the LoC to IB. Get on with life. The fringe elements will have heated debates and shouting matches on tv. This is the maximum which will happen.

Area 4 : Pakistan
How will Pakistanis react to this? If the Kashmir problem is solved, what will all the organisations which are specifically anti India do? Solving Kashmir will ensure that the Pakistani state no longer has any use for them? I think, this isa very dangerous situation.

Would be nice to know what other members think and how they think this can be handled?

You can deal Pakistani army from the position of Strength only.

Only solution is to develop potent anti missile defence systems along with S-500 like missiles and punish Pakistan by librating whole Pakistan administered Kashmir and cutting it off from China if it carries on with it's terrorist attacks and destroy their GHQ and ISI headquarters too . You can't bring Pakistan on negation table until it feels venerable to India.
 
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huriyyat mission meet then PM raja parvez ashraf



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Mirwaiz Umar Farooq with Pakistani envoy Abdul Basit

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JKLF chief Yasin Malik arrives to meet the Deputy High Commissioner of Pakistan

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Mirwaiz Mohammad Umar Farooq, Chairman of All Parties Hurriyat Conference with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari ...

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A Hurriyat delegation led by Mirwaiz Umar Farooq with Pakistan foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar

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Hardline Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani with the former Prime Minister of Pakistani Kashmir

You will gain nothing out of this
 
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