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[Darmashkian]

By doing those reforms that you could without going through parliament. BJP states could have altered the land law and even labour laws.. More reforms in the financial system could have been followed up. That was the Arun Shourie argument, one that I have argued for consistently over the last year & a half.

The Congress blocking reforms was to expected after the BJP had done the same during the UPA rule. It was a no-brainer.

Agreed, Modi did a huge mistake by not forcing reforms through in the first 12 months.. That was the perfect time to do it.

He should have allowed states or given them the green signal to alter the land law & labour laws a long time back.

But Jaitley has a huge control over this govt. & what happens & jaitley doesn't like Shourie. & Jaitley knows little about finance or reforms, his work tells us that.

Bihari's still influenced by caste politics. Its nothing to do with Mr Modi and his productive vision.

RJD got 75 seats!! Some thing is very much wrong with Biharis.. Lalu destroyed Bihar in his 15 years & yet they made him the single largest party.
Now he has more seats than Niku, he won't allow him to function peacefully.

I think we will see more entertainment & drama in Bihar then we will see in Delhi till 2019.
@Echo_419 @SarthakGanguly

RJD goondas & karykartas will not be easy to manage for NiKu compared to Lalu.

What this has to do with bihar elections???? I think at this level we should be able to differentiate Modi as a BJP leader and Modi as PM......

Modi is going to wembley as the PM of India, not as a BJP leader.
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At the end of the day this election proves that Caste matter more than development.

The fact that the party which didn't mutter even one word about development & talked about caste & "forwards vs backwards" became the single largest party & the party which talked the most about development came third proves it..

BJP needs to do some serious high quality introspection![ & not our media type introspection].. & for the sake of god we need some serious media management to happen.

Also to those who are talking about "fringe elements" or fringe elements type speech.. In phases 4 & 5 the pakistan statements & other such statements were made.. that is what seems to have given the BJP some seats there compared to Phases 1-3 where it was trashed.

Also with RJD back in power, you're going to see a lot of goondagardi & poor law & order which is much,much worse than some speeches made by some netas.

@Abingdonboy @Spectre Your opinion?

 

[Bang Galore]

Bring Reforms to parliament = stupidity for wanting to develop the nation
Don't bring Reforms to parliament = No reforms, BJP not serious about development, etc.

They brought it out to show who was in support of development and who was more serious about playing politics and stalling nation's growth. After showing their hand, they went to the states because it was the only thing left to do. Let the states that want to develop do so, and let the states that want to continue to fall behind do so. We are headed for a nation where a select few states end up developed and the rest continue to be governed by the same failed socialist polices of the past 60 years. Biharis will continue to flee to other states to look for jobs while their own home state suffers, nothing will ever change.

Yup. That's all that we need now. More PR.
Maybe the plan really was to lose the election in Bihar and look like fools. Maybe it is the plan to have the PM's credibility in tatters. Next plan - to get booted out in 2019......

 

[danger007]

Modi is always interested in self criticism .
After all entire India saw the media torture after 2002 for around 12 years.

About VK Singh comments .Media and politicians that dont have anything to say just twisted his comments.
Persons that belong to dalits or having inferiority complex took that with prejudice .His comments
was dimb because that is not the language of former General and a minister .
But his intention was clear and he was right .You cant blame Modi for each and everything happened in this nation.And according to constitution Centre dont have any rights to take action against shits happeneing in states.
Lunatics can see in all parties .People is now focusing on BJP because they are the rulers.

oh so dalits or people with inferiority complex??? that's why they are aware of BJP... being an PM he conducted 30+ election campaign... which isn't small... yeah centre can't take action in things happening in states... at least they can control foul mouth leaders... yes they can't take action for the things happening in states... but they can send police to search for beef in official state guest house... and why do you think media twist Union minister comparison dogs with dalits? or it might be U turn of former Army chief..

And PMO asked explanation from Delhi Police .Besides Delhi is a union territory not a state.

Because I look at that comment with a neutral perspective .No politicians with sane minds can pass a suicidal comment like that both their own party and his own political carrier .
Our media intitated a huge propoganda for TRP after Delhi Rape case
Did it prevented further rape cases in India ?No.
But did it encourage foreign media to generalise entire Indian mens as genetically rapists?Absolutely yes.

Achievements of our prestitutes.

again am saying blaming others be it alliance or media won't work... being Prime minister of this country he didn't make any difference in Bihar election even after conducting huge campaign approximately 30 Road shows or meetings.. which is pretty unusual... even some leaders from BJP distances from VKS remarks... don't blame media for everything... so you are saying media did wrong thing by shredding lights on Delhi rape case... if this is how you think... I leave everything to your wisdom... it's centre which handles Delhi cops... so it is easy to blame cops whenever voices raised against such incidents..

 

[The Huskar]

Bring Reforms to parliament = stupidity for wanting to develop the nation
Don't bring Reforms to parliament = No reforms, BJP not serious about development, etc.

They brought it out to show who was in support of development and who was more serious about playing politics and stalling nation's growth. After showing their hand, they went to the states because it was the only thing left to do. Let the states that want to develop do so, and let the states that want to continue to fall behind do so. We are headed for a nation where a select few states end up developed and the rest continue to be governed by the same failed socialist polices of the past 60 years. Biharis will continue to flee to other states to look for jobs while their own home state suffers, nothing will ever change.

The best thing BJP can do right now is make land and labour reforms completely state subjects and then rank states by their developmental indexes.

 

[Bang Galore]

It doesn't matter as long as there is no real leader to challenge him. Modi can get stumped by local strongarm leaders who have been in power for decades, but on the national stage there is absolutely no one. Rahul doesn't stand a chance, and Congress Party as a whole is still a basket case, the loss here was to local RJD and Lalu Prasad, not to Congress.

Yup, buddy. Nothing matters. 2014 was just another regular election which will automatically replicate itself in 2019...... the mandate was not historic & a once in a lifetime opportunity.....Modi was elected to only talk & complain about the opposition........

 

[Marxist]

But he was guilty though.... correct?



It doesn't matter as long as there is no real leader to challenge him. Modi can get stumped by local strongarm leaders who have been in power for decades, but on the national stage there is absolutely no one. Rahul doesn't stand a chance, and Congress Party as a whole is still a basket case, the loss here was to local RJD and Lalu Prasad, not to Congress.

yes he is ..

 

[magudi]

Agreed, Modi did a huge mistake by not forcing reforms through in the first 12 months.. That was the perfect time to do it.

He should have allowed states or given them the green signal to alter the land law & labour laws a long time back.

What Modi knows about reforms ? All he knows and is capable of is Oratory .He should have surrounded himself with better thinking people rather than clowns

I feel sad to see that even now like when Delhi happened RW people are trying to deflect blame from Modi instead of pinning it on him and forcing a change

 

[SrNair]

oh so dalits or people with inferiority complex??? that's why they are aware of BJP... being an PM he conducted 30+ election campaign... which isn't small... yeah centre can't take action in things happening in states... at least they can control foul mouth leaders... yes they can't take action for the things happening in states... but they can send police to search for beef in official state guest house... and why do you think media twist Union minister comparison dogs with dalits? or it might be U turn of former Army chief..


again am saying blaming others be it alliance or media won't work... being Prime minister of this country he didn't make any difference in Bihar election even after conducting huge campaign approximately 30 Road shows or meetings.. which is pretty unusual... even some leaders from BJP distances from VKS remarks... don't blame media for everything... so you are saying media did wrong thing by shredding lights on Delhi rape case... if this is how you think... I leave everything to your wisdom... it's centre which handles Delhi cops... so it is easy to blame cops whenever voices raised against such incidents..

Of Course they distanced ,infact entire BJP distanced .Because they knows the General dont know how to manage with the press.

Of Course our media is quite fantastic.
And we have seen how did they covered Nepal earthquake .
You should ask a foreigner about Indian men .You will get what I meant.You dont need to go anywhere look at this PDF

Since when did the cops begin practice report the PMO or MHA about a civilian enquiry ?

 

[Bang Galore]

But Jaitley has a huge control over this govt. & what happens & jaitley doesn't like Shourie. & Jaitley knows little about finance or reforms, his work tells us that.

No point blaming Jaitley. He was not the one given a mandate by the people of India. If Modi squandered it by making wrong choices, including appointing the wrong people, the fault is not of the people who are so selected. It is the fault of the selector. I don't buy this Jaitley didn't want Shourie rubbish. Jaitley's opinion would never have overridden Modi's. It's not about Shourie alone, Modi picked no other technocrat of repute either. Almost like he wanted a cabal of yes men.

 

[Jai Bharat]

Yup, buddy. Nothing matters. 2014 was just another regular election which will automatically replicate itself in 2019...... the mandate was not historic & a once in a lifetime opportunity.....Modi was elected to only talk & complain about the opposition........

He was elected to stop rampant corruption and anti-development policies at the centre. He is currently scoring strongly in both categories. I don't think even his opposition can deny this.

Local leaders will continue to remain strong in their local constituencies, as people are not yet ready to embrace a national vision. But these parties are incapable of projecting outside their states. At the end of the day the majority of development in any given area will come from the state government first and centre second. States like Bihar and West Bengal will continue to wallow in corruption and poverty til the end of time. No amount of PR will change the ground realities in these states, there will continue to be a flight of migrants out of these states and into other states only proving my point.

 

[magudi]

The best thing BJP can do right now is make land and labour reforms completely state subjects and then rank states by their developmental indexes.

Best thing BJPcan do

Tame motor mouths
Buy PK back or atleast appoint some people in their IT cell who know a thing or two about marketting and computers
Kick Jaitley from finance make him law min instead
Kick agri min Radha Mohan
Kick Nadda
Kick Smriti out of hrd give her I&B
Kick Mahesh Sharma
Topple Bhagwat
Appoint better spokespersons
start grooming state level leaders

 

[Bang Galore]

Best thing BJPcan do

Tame motor mouths
Buy PK back or atleast appoint some people in their IT cell who know a thing or two about marketting and computers
Kick Jaitley from finance make him law min instead
Kick agri min Radha Mohan
Kick Nadda
Kick Smriti out of hrd give her I&B
Kick Mahesh Sharma
Topple Bhagwat
Appoint better spokespersons
start grooming state level leaders

Or more likely, they will do nothing of what you suggest & do some more PR. Arun Shourie was right when he said that this government was more interested in managing headlines than managing the country.

 

[[Bregs]]

Man does this guy even have an iota of shame after all this ? More foreign trips and showbazi for hero worshiping NRI clowns will only disenchant people back home who are yet to see any of his promises fulfilled back home

Man does this guy even have an iota of shame after all this ? More foreign trips and showbazi for hero worshiping NRI clowns will only disenchant people back home who are yet to see any of his promises fulfilled back home

So much foreign trips as if we are a developed country, secondly raising domestic politics on foreign land and making character assassinations abroad. this is ethically not correct for a PM but no they have there own way of working. they do not see that what the bjp-akalis alliance has done to state of punjab in past 9 yrs. youth are getting addicted and corruption at all time high. this is called double standards

 

[danger007]

Of Course they distanced ,infact entire BJP distanced .Because they knows the General dont know how to manage with the press.

Of Course our media is quite fantastic.
And we have seen how did they covered Nepal earthquake .
You should ask a foreigner about Indian men .You will get what I meant.You dont need to go anywhere look at this PDF

Since when did the cops begin practice report the PMO or MHA about a civilian enquiry ?

well I know what happening here around... with God grace am no fan of Congress or any other party.. I maintained neutral view... but my view tilted Lil bit towards Modi during 2014 election... which take course correction in middle... it is like
if BJP fails - - - - > congress
searching for other options
if Congress fails - - - -> BJP

BJP plays politics around religious beliefs...


others plays on caste... I don't see any difference among them.. we are just searching for a bit better option we have. .. am no bhakt of Modi... you might believe he got some magic wand... but I don't unless he makes difference from previous govt... recently BJP leader said BJP= cong + cow...
too much importance given over cow.....

why yo blame media when BJP senior leaders them selves distances VK S remarks.... if media twisted the fact.. they would stand along with VKS... blaming others for your faults won't help you..

Best thing BJPcan do

Tame motor mouths
Buy PK back or atleast appoint some people in their IT cell who know a thing or two about marketting and computers

Kick Jaitley from finance make him law min instead
Kick agri min Radha Mohan
Kick Nadda
Kick Smriti out of hrd give her I&B
Kick Mahesh Sharma
Topple Bhagwat
Appoint better spokespersons
start grooming state level leaders

you are forgetting great leaders like Sadvi etc... and a BJP leader who pledges to take of another politician head if he eat beef(karnataka) ..

Best thing BJPcan do

Tame motor mouths
Buy PK back or atleast appoint some people in their IT cell who know a thing or two about marketting and computers

Kick Jaitley from finance make him law min instead
Kick agri min Radha Mohan
Kick Nadda
Kick Smriti out of hrd give her I&B
Kick Mahesh Sharma
Topple Bhagwat
Appoint better spokespersons
start grooming state level leaders

you are forgetting great leaders like Sadvi etc... and a BJP leader who pledges to take of another politician head if he eat beef(karnataka) ..

 

[heisenberg]

Winter session(starting from last week of this month) will determine the course of indian politics in future. If this session gets washed away then things will become difficult for modi. Grooming of state leaders is very important to win 2019 election since modi wave will not work if his performance at center remains below average.