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[911]

By that logic they should have contested in Pondicherry and Sikkim too. They did not.

Its possible that idea to spread AAP all over India is new. Also possible he didn't have funds that time. If he is successful in any of the two states, he will try even harder. Wait and watch.

 

[ranjeet]

I discount 'punjabi culture' since each region in India has its own culture.

Gujarat has its own proud rich culture and so does Maharashtra. BJP makes an easy transition between these cultures.

For e.g. Gujarati cuisine, folk dances, folk songs, religious practice etc is very distinct and is common across Jains and Hindus in Gujarat.

Very similar to Punjab.

The differentiation is 'Sikhism' which is seeks domination over others and claim to be 'superior' and 'different' from hinduism. If you know history you will know that the very root of the sikh problem arose after the Arya samaj claimed that Sikhs were hindus too.

The Akali dals were formed as an opposition to the arya samaj claims.



I am stating the obvious.

If you disagree feel free to explain how.

I brought in culture because you raised AAP growing in Goa and Punjab because these both states have significant Minorities population and they might have anti hindu bias. And Punjab is rejecting the coalition (as per what's being propagated on social media) lead by Akalis themselves not only Hindus.

My point was only regarding comparison you raised between Goa and Punjab not any other state.

 

[VivasvatManu]

Its possible that idea to spread AAP all over India is new. Also possible he didn't have funds that time

Funds available to go to Goa but not to go to Sikkim or Pondicherry ?

Pondicherry election was held in 2016.

The only common factor between Punjab and Goa is the portion for Anti hindu due to large number of "minority" votes.

I brought in culture because you raised AAP growing in Goa and Punjab because these both states have significant Minorities population and they might have anti hindu bias. And Punjab is rejecting the coalition (as per what's being propagated on social media) lead by Akalis themselves not only Hindus.

My point was only regarding comparison you raised between Goa and Punjab not any other state.

Significant numbers of Religious minority is the only common link between the two states and that is what AAP is targeting.

They are targeting the CONgress vote bank.

I suspect they will target the muslim vote back with alliances. (Nitish, Mamata etc)

 

[911]

Funds available to go to Goa but not to go to Sikkim or Pondicherry ?

Pondicherry election was held in 2016.

The only common factor to Punjab and Goa is the portion for Anti hindu due to large number of "minority" votes.

We have to ask AK for that . He is the sole mind behind AAPs strategy.

 

[Soumitra]

@VivasvatManu they are also going to Gujarat which does not fit your pattern

They consider themslves anti BJP force notAnti Hindu though with their left liberal policies they may seem the same

 

[911]

Significant numbers of Religious minority is the only common link between the two states and that is what AAP is targeting.

AAP had no chance in UP even with funds, AK is power hungry, he don't just want to win few seats, he wants AAP CM.

 

[VivasvatManu]

@VivasvatManu they are also going to Gujarat which does not fit your pattern

They consider themslves anti BJP force notAnti Hindu though with their left liberal policies they may seem the same

They want to Gujarat for the same reason Arvind Kejriwal went to Varanansi.

Both are aimed at targeting Modi at his home ground and to appear as a NATURAL challenger to BJP.

It gives them the illusion of a giant killer. They had nothing to loose, everything to gain.


AAP is pro money and pro Power. They have chosen to be anti-Hindu to fuel their political growth.

AAP had no chance in UP even with funds, AK is power hungry, he don't just want to win few seats, he wants AAP CM.

True.

 

[A_Poster]

lets agree to disagree on this one.

He is correct.

The hatred for BJP that you see on this thread by two AAP supporters is driven by Sikh fanaticism. Both of them were ex-Akalis ,and shifted to AAP when AAP became more Akali than Akalis.

If anything, their somersault after their man Chotepur was kicked out make this transparent (though I do not blame them for it as anything is better than Kejariwal). The us Sikhs vs them Delhite Hindu tone in their comment was obvious.

 

[ranjeet]

Significant numbers of Religious minority is the only common link between the two states and that is what AAP is targeting.

They are targeting the CONgress vote bank.

I suspect they will target the muslim vote back with alliances. (Nitish, Mamata etc)

Punjab and Delhi were the first couple of states who fell of Kejriwal's gimmickry right after Anna's movement, Punjab was the only state to send 4 MPs for AAP in Lok Sabha election. He played on the emotions of Punjabis, he inducted Jarnail Singh who threw shoe at PC, Phoolka who was fighting for 84 victims was also roped in by him, plus local punjabi leaders who were fighting drug menace in Punjab. They were fooled by Kejriwal and they are realizing it now.

If you remember before Delhi elections "attacks on chrisitians" issue was hyped up and NGOs chipped in to help the new messiah. I wouldn't be surprised if this same NGO gangs are working behind the scene in Goa to stop the rise of hindutva.

This is what I think is happening, I might be wrong but for the time being I am sticking to this.

 

[A_Poster]

@ranjeet No one can be fooled unless he is willing to be fooled.

 

[VivasvatManu]

Punjab and Delhi were the first couple of states who fell of Kejriwal's gimmickry right after Anna's movement, Punjab was the only state to send 4 MPs for AAP in Lok Sabha election. He played on the emotions of Punjabis, he inducted Jarnail Singh who threw shoe at PC, Phoolka who was fighting for 84 victims was also roped in by him, plus local punjabi leaders who were fighting drug menace in Punjab. They were fooled by Kejriwal and they are realizing it now.

If you remember before Delhi elections "attacks on chrisitians" issue was hyped up and NGOs chipped in to help the new messiah. I wouldn't be surprised if this same NGO gangs are working behind the scene in Goa to stop the rise of hindutva.

This is what I think is happening, I might be wrong but for the time being I am sticking to this.

Are you saying Punjabi's are more emotional and gullible than other Indians ? Maybe. There is space to make that argument.

AAP victory in punjab appeared like a mix of anti incumbency and anti congress wave.

I have zero doubt that christian NGO's are working in the background to undermine BJP and from what I have read, they seem to have some reach in punjab.

@ranjeet No one can be fooled unless he is willing to be fooled.

Hope always triumphs over grim realities. Its not always such a bad thing.

 

[ranjeet]

He is correct.

The hatred for BJP that you see on this thread by two AAP supporters is driven by Sikh fanaticism. Both of them were ex-Akalis ,and shifted to AAP when AAP became more Akali than Akalis.

If anything, their somersault after their man Chotepur was kicked out make this transparent (though I do not blame them for it as anything is better than Kejariwal). The us Sikhs vs them Delhite Hindu tone in their comment was obvious.

How did AAP become more Akali than Akalis? if you are following latest developments there AAP's image is turning into Anti Sikh one in Punjab.

@ranjeet No one can be fooled ,until he is willing to be fooled.

I totally agree with this, Punjabis were led to believe that kejriwal would get them rid of corrupt Congress and Akalis and promised them a drug free Punjab. What he literally did was he gave Punjabis a newer more potent drug to use.

 

[A_Poster]

How did AAP become more Akali than Akalis? if you are following latest developments there AAP's image is turning into Anti Sikh one in Punjab.

After this Chotepur's fiasco.

Before that AAP was rubbing shoulders with known Khalistanis. Even Akalis ,who have sympathy for Khalistanis if not Khalistan, warned about this.

 

[ranjeet]

Are you saying Punjabi's are more emotional and gullible than other Indians ? Maybe. There is space to make that argument.

AAP victory in punjab appeared like a mix of anti incumbency and anti congress wave.

I have zero doubt that christian NGO's are working in the background to undermine BJP and from what I have read, they seem to have some reach in punjab.

Well what else do you think is the reason behind Kejriwal's love for Bhagat Singh? Bhagwant Mann tie his turban same way as Bhagat Singh did. Plus AAP's stand on the Satluj Yamuna link Canal, How can a CM of Delhi could be against it when Delhi stood to get a share of the water?

After this Chotepur's fiasco.

Before that AAP was rubbing shoulders with known Khalistanis. Even Akalis ,who have sympathy for Khalistanis if not Khalistan, warned about this.

They'll rub shoulders with anyone who gives them money. Considering how things are developing in Punjab lately I believe Delhi leaders in Punjab would be quitting the field all together for other parties on pick up on the pieces.

 

[ranjeet]

SC collegium’s biggest crisis as Justice Chelameswar refuses to attend its meetings

Justice Jasti Chelameswar’s revolt against the Supreme Court’s collegium, reported exclusively by the New Indian Express, is the story of the day. Justice Chelameswar is reportedly of the view that there is no point in attending the collegium’s meetings, as long as its deliberations are kept under wraps.

Justice Chelameswar, by his refusal to join the rest of the collegium on principle, will surely put him apart from the pro-status quo group among the Judges, and earn him a definite place in the history of the Supreme Court. A known dissenter, Justice Chelameswar, must have thought this was the moment to strike, and expose the Collegium, which after claiming credit for the NJAC judgment, with its emphasis on transparency etc. was doing exactly the opposite, by keeping its deliberations, and communications with the Centre on the MoP secret.

Many observers feel that it is easy to blame the Centre for the imbroglio over Memorandum of Procedure; but the Collegium should equally take the blame for the stand-off.

The MoP stalemate has also invited a critical commentary today from Justice A.P.Shah and Arghya Sengupta, who in their article in The Hindu, question the wisdom of keeping the differences between the Centre and the Collegium, under wraps.

Justice Chelameswar was the lone dissenter in the NJAC judgment delivered by the five-Judge Constitution bench in October last year. He not only upheld the NJAC law, passed by Parliament, but found the Collegium system of appointments lacking in transparency and effectiveness. Subsequently, however, he joined the rest in the consequential judgment on the Collegium, delivered in December, because it sought to improve the Collegium system.

Justice Chelameswar’s refusal to attend the collegium’s meeting, only underscores his intense displeasure with its style of functioning, which is inconsistent with the NJAC bench’s December judgment.

http://www.livelaw.in/sc-collegiums-biggest-crisis-justice-chelameswar-refuses-attend-meetings/