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[SarthakGanguly]

Damn.

Missed that. Thank Heaven you were there to remind us.

Come on. The Communist disdain for intellectuals was well known.

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They should have won. What a pity.



Damn.

Missed that. Thank Heaven you were there to remind us.



@jaunty

You need to give them to recover. None of them can speak straight today.

Btw, whats for dinner today sir? I guess celebrations are in order.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Come on. The Communist disdain for intellectuals was well known.


Btw, whats for dinner today sir? I guess celebrations are in order.

On the contrary, they made a great play for the intellectuals and there were dozens of pretentious people who played along with them. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Dinner is beef-steak, rare, with onion sauce of course. The fact that I am a vegetarian shouldn't, mustn't inhibit you.

Come on. The Communist disdain for intellectuals was well known.


Btw, whats for dinner today sir? I guess celebrations are in order.

Are you for real?

 

[Marxist]

Every parties vote share decreased, while BJP's increased.

BJP contested more than 50+ seats compared to last election so BJP's vote share increased ,RJD contested alone last time and got only 19% vote this time they contested only in 100 seats and managed to get 18%

 

[NKVD]

BJP contested more than 50+ seats compared to last election so BJP's vote share increased ,RJD contested alone last time and got only 19% vote this time they contested only in 100 seats and managed to get 18%

You should consider that fact bjp as party never came to power in bihar

 

[SarthakGanguly]

On the contrary, they made a great play for the intellectuals and there were dozens of pretentious people who played along with them. You have no idea what you are talking about.

In India, yes. In Germany(1919), in Russia(1920s) - scores of intellectuals were killed. I am speaking generally.
In India, even the far Left considered a substantial number of intellectuals less than human. I perfectly know what I am talking about. Radical movements have always had a hate reserved for the entrenched intelligentsia.

 

[IndoCarib]

Bihar becomes 'top Twitter trend' in Pakistan - Times of India

 

[Abingdonboy]

@Abingdonboy @Spectre Your opinion?

The high hopes I had for Modi's tenure are over as far as I am concerned. I said a few weeks ago that the results of the Bihar elections were make or break for this GoI and the outcome has been far worse than even the most pessimistic projections going into the election.

Modi has no one else to blame but himself and his party, did he really buy into the "Modi wave"? Did he loose perspective? I would have thought the absolute thrashing they got in Delhi would be enough to wake these clowns up but no, they made the same mistakes and actually compounded them.

"Fringe elements" get the blame but when you do nothing to address the "fringe" you are effectively condoning their behaviour and thus tarnishing yourself with the same brush.

Modi has in fact, in retrospect, made the worst decision in all of his strategic moves- he has failed to build a consensus, he has failed to keep his party in check and he has throughly squandered his mandate.


Modi can talk the talk but his actions (or lack thereof) have torpedoed many of our hopes and the situation isn't looking any rosier going into 2019.


Another lame duck PM for India it seems, from my point of view this was a once in a generation opportunity that has been lost.

 

[Joe Shearer]

In India, yes. In Germany(1919), in Russia(1920s) - scores of intellectuals were killed. I am speaking generally.
In India, even the far Left considered a substantial number of intellectuals less than human. I perfectly know what I am talking about. Radical movements have always had a hate reserved for the entrenched intelligentsia.

Germany 1919? Where and how were intellectuals killed? These were the Rosa Luxembourg-Karl Liebknecht years, when Bertolt Brecht ruled supreme over Berlin. Whom did you have in mind?

As for Russia 1920s, what Stalin did is difficult to assign to Communism as such. You are probably already aware that these purges were directed at a particular community, so that rather defangs your reference; you should be citing the opposite examples.

And in no other country, in no other circumstances, except during Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, was there any problem between the communists and intellectuals.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Bihar becomes 'top Twitter trend' in Pakistan - Times of India

And why not? The significance of these elections are clearly not lost on them. Of course they are going to be celebrating this result.

 

[Spectre]

Germany 1919? Where and how were intellectuals killed? These were the Rosa Luxembourg-Karl Liebknecht years, when Bertolt Brecht ruled supreme over Berlin. Whom did you have in mind?

As for Russia 1920s, what Stalin did is difficult to assign to Communism as such. You are probably already aware that these purges were directed at a particular community, so that rather defangs your reference; you should be citing the opposite examples.

And in no other country, in no other circumstances, except during Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, was there any problem between the communists and intellectuals.

Present Russia and China are not so hospitable for intellectuals but then I guess there not communist in the strictest sense but even when Russia was communist the system threw up Stalin and Lenin.

Communism in practice always have placed artificial limits and the truly free thinking intellectuals have always been muzzled in such regimes when they get out of the established line.

I hate quoting Ayn Rand as I truly despise her but she wasn't way off the mark when she said

It is the Communists’ intention to make people think that personal success is somehow achieved at the expense of others and that every successful man has hurt somebody by becoming successful. It is the Communists’ aim to discourage all personal effort and to drive men into a hopeless, dispirited, gray herd of robots who have lost all personal ambition, who are easy to rule, willing to obey and willing to exist in selfless servitude to the State.

This is what the communism gave us - WB being the experiment I have seen come to fruition with my eyes.

Regards

 

[Marxist]

You should consider that fact bjp as party never came to power in bihar

Yes i considered that and also considering the facts like 2014 assembly bypoll results where this MGB sweeped 7/10 seats ,we failed to project a CM in bihar, Allies failed miserably...etc ,But we fought this election for a victory and we were confident about a victory till 9.30-10 am this morning ...no need hide our loss behind these technicalities like percentage ...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Present Russia and China are not so hospitable for intellectuals but then I guess there not communist in the strictest sense but even when Russia was the system threw up Stalin and Lenin.

Communism in practice always have placed artificial limits and the truly free thinking intellectuals have always been muzzled in such regimes when they get out of the established line.

I hate quoting Ayn Rand as I truly despise her but she wasn't way off the mark when she said

It is the Communists’ intention to make people think that personal success is somehow achieved at the expense of others and that every successful man has hurt somebody by becoming successful. It is the Communists’ aim to discourage all personal effort and to drive men into a hopeless, dispirited, gray herd of robots who have lost all personal ambition, who are easy to rule, willing to obey and willing to exist in selfless servitude to the State.

This is what the communism gave us - WB being the experiment I have seen come to fruition with my eyes.

Regards

I didn't see that happening in west Bengal. I saw a lot of artificial pampering of the intellectual, and their being put on pedestals. That is if they were cooperative. Those who were not were quite simply frozen out.

As for the allusion to post-war Germany and to Soviet Russia, I doubt that people are familiar with what happened, even at the level that I was at Presidency. I don't really know what was meant by the remark I am answering.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

I didn't see that happening in west Bengal. I saw a lot of artificial pampering of the intellectual, and their being put on pedestals. That is if they were cooperative. Those who were not were quite simply frozen out.

As for the allusion to post-war Germany and to Soviet Russia, I doubt that people are familiar with what happened, even at the level that I was at Presidency. I don't really know what was meant by the remark I am answering.

There are some good news from Kerala also.
GRAND VICTORY OF LEFT PARTIES IN KERALA OVER CONGRESS & BJP ;

Gram Panchayts :
Total = 941
Left = 551
UDF= 362 ( Ruling party congress
led front )
BJP = 14, others 14.

Block Panchayts :
Left = 90
UDF =61
BJP = 0 , others 1.

Distt. Panchayts :
Left =7
UDF =7
BJP = 0

Municipalities :
Left = 44
UDF =41
BJP = 1

Corporations :
Left = 4
UDF =2
BJP= 0

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Germany 1919? Where and how were intellectuals killed? These were the Rosa Luxembourg-Karl Liebknecht years, when Bertolt Brecht ruled supreme over Berlin. Whom did you have in mind?

As for Russia 1920s, what Stalin did is difficult to assign to Communism as such. You are probably already aware that these purges were directed at a particular community, so that rather defangs your reference; you should be citing the opposite examples.

And in no other country, in no other circumstances, except during Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, was there any problem between the communists and intellectuals.

You already gave three of the most successful revolutionary examples. Of course, Germany was saved by the Weimar's few Reichswehr (helped by the Freikorps) but that is a different story.

And why would Stalin not count as a Communist? No true Scotsman, sir?

 

[Spectre]

I didn't see that happening in west Bengal. I saw a lot of artificial pampering of the intellectual, and their being put on pedestals. That is if they were cooperative. Those who were not were quite simply frozen out.

As for the allusion to post-war Germany and to Soviet Russia, I doubt that people are familiar with what happened, even at the level that I was at Presidency. I don't really know what was meant by the remark I am answering.

I am not clear on the timelines but Tasleema Nasreen but communist govt failed to prevent the hounding out of Tasleema Nasreen. I have no detailed idea about post WW1 politics so I can't add anything to that.

P.S. I am extremely biased against the post congress govts in WB, so I won't be argue objectively.