Indian police wrongly target Muslims

[MilSpec]

Most of the Hindus in the world belong to India.

Suicide bombing is not a Muslim phenomena, the Japanese Kamikaze & the LTTE (trained by India) were famous for that. Rajiv Gandhi found that out. India has close to 90% of the world's total hindu population, & IED bomb blasts are commonly used by Maoists & other separatists all over the country. Even though the Maoists have no religion, neither do the 'Islamic terrorists'.

"Islamic terrorists", Can we just call them terrorists for starters? and btw they seem to be doing what they are doing on the basis of whatever version of mullah fed religion that calls for the blood of the kafirs and jihad nonsense. So even though for the majority of muslims, it might be non religious to cause terror, but to these so called jihadists, religion (their version) is an important motivating factor

 

[rcrmj]

lets better not shatter their secular delusions, they will lable them terriorists anyway why bother, its their nature to blame others

 

[MilSpec]

Even in attacks against Muslims; such as Mecca Masjid (Hyderabad), Malegaon blast, Samjhota Express bombing; it was the Muslims that got arrested (when Hindutva terrorists were responsible). I know for a fact that there are many Indians that think it is not possible to have a Hindu terrorist; that a terrorist cannot be Hindu, & vice versa. This is what leads to communalism.

Sorry OT, Mr. Haidar
Are you comfortable with the term Islamic Terror, if not then why term someone hindu terrorist.. whats next christian rapist, jewish pimp and so on

 

[fd24]

"Islamic terrorists", Can we just call them terrorists for starters? and btw they seem to be doing what they are doing on the basis of whatever version of mullah fed religion that calls for the blood of the kafirs and jihad nonsense. So even though for the majority of muslims, it might be non religious to cause terror, but to these so called jihadists, religion (their version) is an important motivating factor

We all have a tiny minority in all nations trying to bully the innocent parties which make up the majority. India has 1.2. billion people - by the law of averages they will have the odd nutter be it Hindu or Muslim. We should simply unite and fight this tiny but senseless minority. If it is seen that the establishment is doing all it can to prevent innocent people being accused then that's all we can expect. It doesn't need a supreme judge to tell us this. Just needs common sense implemented.

 

[53fd]

Sorry OT, Mr. Haidar
Are you comfortable with the term Islamic Terror, if not then why term someone hindu terrorist.. whats next christian rapist, jewish pimp and so on

Let's cut with the political correctness crap. Hindu terrorists have been using bombs all the time, suicide bombing was started by the Japanese Kamikaze, & even the LTTE (trained by India) used it, & Rajiv Gandhi found that out with his life. Bombs are used by Christian radicals inside the US as well, bombing abortion clinics etc. My point is, there is a common belief in India that Islam is a fundamentally extremist religion, it took over their Hindu civilization, & that all Hindus (unlike Muslim radicals) are peaceful & incapable of extremism & terrorism.

My point is to basically reiterate the SC judge's statement, that Muslims are wrongly targeted by the Indian police. Even the bombings in which Muslim lives are lost (Malegaon, Samjhota Express, Mecca Masjid Hyderabad) were put on Indian Muslims. Who knows how many more bombings in the past had the involvement of Hindu extremists that were blamed on Muslims? This is a serious, deep rooted issue that needs to be addressed in India. If Swami Aseemanand hadn't made his confession, all the bombings would have been put on the Indian Muslims.

 

[fd24]

Sorry OT, Mr. Haidar
Are you comfortable with the term Islamic Terror, if not then why term someone hindu terrorist.. whats next christian rapist, jewish pimp and so on

It is clear the mentality you possess it is a pointless excercise to have a sensible and productive exchange of views. Have a great day Sandy

 

[MilSpec]

We all have a tiny minority in all nations trying to bully the innocent parties which make up the majority. India has 1.2. billion people - by the law of averages they will have the odd nutter be it Hindu or Muslim. We should simply unite and fight this tiny but senseless minority. If it is seen that the establishment is doing all it can to prevent innocent people being accused then that's all we can expect. It doesn't need a supreme judge to tell us this. Just needs common sense implemented.

Sir,
I think the main problem is attitude of civil society and moderate majority in general... the fringe element grab a loudspeaker and shout their lungs out calling to spread hatred... kill others and indoctrine the youth while themselves they wouldn't have the cirage to pick up a stone... The moderate majority should come up and counter these nutjobs when they go on any public forum, print or electronic media ... Media has a large role to play in painting a particular community in some color.

If we keep showing images 24/7 on TV of muslims burning US flags and holding OBL posters, the general image of the community is tarnished due to bunch of idiots and the bigotry of the reporter. Same holds true of a hindu mob breaking a mosque constantly beamed into the idiot box every time the word hindu comes up.

news media loves to give prominence to radical elements to get some masala and general attitude of masses starts getting polarized.

 

[MilSpec]

It is clear the mentality you possess it is a pointless excercise to have a sensible and productive exchange of views. Have a great day Sandy

Sorry sir if offended you in any way , but i just dont think that we need to associate religious beliefs with terrorism,

 

[MilSpec]

Let's cut with the political correctness crap. Hindu terrorists have been using bombs all the time, suicide bombing was started by the Japanese Kamikaze, & even the LTTE (trained by India) used it, & Rajiv Gandhi found that out with his life. Bombs are used by Christian radicals inside the US as well, bombing abortion clinics etc. My point is, there is a common belief in India that Islam is a fundamentally extremist religion, it took over their Hindu civilization, & that all Hindus (unlike Muslim radicals) are peaceful & incapable of extremism & terrorism.

My point is to basically reiterate the SC judge's statement, that Muslims are wrongly targeted by the Indian police. Even the bombings in which Muslim lives are lost (Malegaon, Samjhota Express, Mecca Masjid Hyderabad) were put on Indian Muslims. Who knows how many more bombings in the past had the involvement of Hindu extremists that were blamed on Muslims? This is a serious, deep rooted issue that needs to be addressed in India. If Swami Aseemanand hadn't made his confession, all the bombings would have been put on the Indian Muslims.

Mr Haidar,

I dont know about your experience in India, But I grew up in India and your understanding of common indians perception of Islam might be derrived from what you read in the news and on internet forums. i can tell you this for sure, that I grew up in a multi lingual, multi religious neighborhood in Maharashtra and never had any negative assertion about Muslims or Islam religion , nor were we indoctrinated in schools towards religious bigotry.

now if the SC says Muslims are tageted it must be true, but also look at the fact that India has been target of etremist mullah inspired jihad fighter crop grown in fringe mdrasas.. so its obvious that the cops will first try the usual suspects. Hope that makes sense.

 

[53fd]

Mr Haidar,

I dont know about your experience in India, But I grew up in India and your understanding of common indians perception of Islam might be derrived from what you read in the news and on internet forums. i can tell you this for sure, that I grew up in a multi lingual, multi religious neighborhood in Maharashtra and never had any negative assertion about Muslims or Islam religion , nor were we indoctrinated in schools towards religious bigotry.

now if the SC says Muslims are tageted it must be true, but also look at the fact that India has been target of etremist mullah inspired jihad fighter crop grown in fringe mdrasas.. so its obvious that the cops will first try the usual suspects. Hope that makes sense.

That's the problem. My experiences have been based on listening to my personal family experiences (grandparents, mother & her siblings) in the less privileged parts of India, & not belonging to the privileged class either. Not every city in India is a Delhi, Mumbai or Hyderabad for Muslims.

 

[MilSpec]

That's the problem. My experiences have been based on listening to my personal family experiences (grandparents, mother & her siblings) in the less privileged parts of India, & not belonging to the privileged class either. Not every city in India is a Delhi, Mumbai or Hyderabad for Muslims.

In my experience , religion is not the prime factor for opression and discriminiation ... the most discriminated, ill fated and opressed people in the history of our country has been the poor people ... doesn't matter if you are a hiindu, mulim ot christian, of you are poor , you are screwed.

But that doesn't mean that we are free from discrimination ... there is a lot of it , but no as much as it is portrayed on this forum.

 

[alphamale]

this is the harsh reality of indian police. yes muslims are targeted after a terrorist attack. i think the reason behind this is the history of terrorist activities in india. Muslims(many foreign & some local) were responsible for most of terrorist attacks in india. general ppl have made a perception that mostly muslims are indulged in these activities. i know this is wrong but whom to blame?? terrorists?? people?? don't know.

 

[53fd]

In my experience , religion is not the prime factor for opression and discriminiation ... the most discriminated, ill fated and opressed people in the history of our country has been the poor people ... doesn't matter if you are a hiindu, mulim ot christian, of you are poor , you are screwed.

But that doesn't mean that we are free from discrimination ... there is a lot of it , but no as much as it is portrayed on this forum.

I don't want to delve into this. Swami Aseemanand's revelations hit India like a hard brick. If Swami Aseemanand had not made his confession, the jailed Indian Muslims would have remained there, & we would have never known the involvement of Hindu terrorists in bomb blasts.

Now, my point is to ask a very simple question: in light of the SC judge's statement (about Muslims getting wrongly targeted by Indian police in bomb probes), how many more bombings in the past had the involvement of Hindu extremists that were blamed on Muslims?

 

[MilSpec]

I don't want to delve into this. Swami Aseemanand's revelations hit India like a hard brick. If Swami Aseemanand had not made his confession, the jailed Indian Muslims would have remained there, & we would have never known the involvement of Hindu terrorists in bomb blasts.

Now, my point is to ask a very simple question: in light of the SC judge's statement (about Muslims getting wrongly targeted by Indian police in bomb probes), how many more bombings in the past had the involvement of Hindu extremists that were blamed on Muslims?

Actually you have answered your very own question.
Where did Swami Aseemanand's revelations come from ?he CBI arrested Aseemanand on November 19 2010, right.
that shows the legal system in India is not Biased towards any religion, it wasn't FBI or ISI alleging "hindu" involvement.
So these prior bomb blasts that you are questioning , also went through similar scrutinizing eyes. right?

 

[53fd]

Actually you have answered your very own question.
Where did Swami Aseemanand's revelations come from ?he CBI arrested Aseemanand on November 19 2010, right.
that shows the legal system in India is not Biased towards any religion, it wasn't FBI or ISI alleging "hindu" involvement.
So these prior bomb blasts that you are questioning , also went through similar scrutinizing eyes. right?

Swami Aseemanand was only arrested after he confessed of his crimes:

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