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I just sent a message to the PM through the PMO portal. I hope it reaches the right eyes. I'm going to post it here in the hope that it attracts any influential gaze. I'm not on social media, so this is my first and last refuge.

Regarding the dismal performance in Olympics

Respected PM,

I think that we need to approach Olympics as a war and prepare our athletes as soldiers. All this talk of lack of talent or lack of infrastructure is an excuse. To compete and excel at a particular level, one has to train at minimum at that level or at a higher level. As simple as that. So, the question is: are our sports soldiers training at the level demanded by Olympics? The answer is a 'no'. They may be training their skills to match the Olympic level, but their physical, mental and psychological makeup are definitely no match to the makeups of the elite sports machines. We crumble under pressure, we feel overwhelmed, we feel intimidated, we feel inferior, and so on.

Now let me tell you how the military deals with this problem. The fundamental focus of a military training is not on teaching weapons, but on breaking down a personality and remolding it into an elite killing machine. Once the physical, mental and psychological barriers of a candidate are broken, they can be stretched to any desired level, they become elastic. This is the hardest and the most rewarding phase of the training. Many candidates break down in the process. But the ones who make it through are transformed into elite weapons. You can deploy them in any situation, naked and without guns, and they'll still do what is required of them. They have learnt to exploit any situation to their advantage. They wont cry and they wont whine.

Once a soldier is transformed into an elite killing machine, now all they need to do is to practice various scenarios in a simulated terrain that mimics the battlefield. The focus of this phase is to master a skill. Because the operating level of a solider is now elevated, the amount of effort and discipline required in this phase won't seem Herculean. An elite candidate can train at these levels relatively easily.

Rather than taking the old and tired approach of first learning a skill and then gradually raising it to a higher level, the approach should be to first remold the physio-psychological makeup to an elite makeup and then simply throwing thousands of hours of elite-level training. The first approach takes time, and because we don't have a sporting culture like cricket where candidates learn to compete from their childhood, so by the time an athlete reaches an elite level of performance, he/she is past their biological prime. The second approach is how the military does it - pick them at 16-18, then few years of makeup change, and then 3 years of elite training and we'll have our sports soldiers ready to bring golds by 21-23 yrs of age. And we'll have at least 2-3 Olympics to reap dividends.

So, how do we go about this change? I think that we should setup a specialized military branch whose job is to prepare our sports soldiers. The reasons - a) military has the know-how and the facilities required for such training - especially the remolding part. b) military can easily recruit candidates – specialized soldiers – all we need to do is to bench-mark the physical makeup of an elite Olympian in different sports and pick candidates fitting the makeup. c) most of our athletes are from an underprivileged background and their biggest need is the need of security. By recruiting them as soldiers and carving out a specialized path for them to a glorious career based on their sports excellence, we can secure their future as well as motivate generation after generation from similar background to sustain our Olympic system - this way we can institutionalize our gold medals like China does.

Respected sir, I've spent an entire night thinking and composing my arguments and I sincerely believe that my suggestion has merit. It shames me to see that a billions of us can't win even a single gold in Olympics. It's due time that we start winning some and it's not really that hard if you ask me, only we need to set our sight right and establish a smart system that is self-sustainable.
 
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Badminton RESULT: In mens doubles, India just beat Japan 23 - 21 , 21 - 11

Dead rubber though, Japanese are already through from the group.

Anyway todays schedule:

Golf
Event: Men’s Final Round

Athletes: Anirban Lahiri, SSP Chawrasia

Time: 3:30pm IST

Badminton
Event: Women’s Singles Group G (v Ukraine)

Match-up: Saina Nehwal v Maria Ulitina

Time: 5:25pm IST

Event: Men’s Singles Group H (v Sweden)

Match-up: Srikanth Kidambi v Henri Hurskainen

Time: 7:10pm IST

Event: Women’s Singles Group M (v Canada)

Match-up: PV Sindhu v Michelle Li

Time: 7:45pm IST

Shooting
Event: Men’s 50m Rifle 3 positions Qualifications

Athletes: Chain Singh, Gagan Narang

Time: 5:30pm IST

Event: Men’s 50m Rifle 3 positions Finals

Time: 9:30pm IST

Athletics
Event: Women's Marathon

Athletes: Kavita Raut, OP Jaisha

Time: 6pm IST

Hockey
Event: Men’s Tournament Quarterfinals

Match-up: India v Belgium

Time: 9pm IST

Boxing
Event: Men’s light welter 64kg Round of 16 (v Uzbekistan)

Match-up: Manoj Kumar v Fazliddin Gaibnazarov

Time: 9:45pm IST

Gymnastics
Event: Women’s vault Final

Athlete: Dipa Karmakar

Time: 11:15pm IST

Tennis

Event: Mixed doubles bronze medal match

Indians involved: Sania Mirza, Rohan Bopanna

Time: 10:30 pm IST



Hope we can get our first medal today!

Also Today is the last opportunity for us to get a shooting medal, we have won a medal in shooting since 2004, hope it continues.
 
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India has its two boxers in quaterfinals ??? rite? Vikas Krishan and Manoj Kumar??? Am i missing someone??
 
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Saina Nehwal crashes out.
:( This is very sad.

I sincerely hope Dipa Karamakar wins a medal & stays safe throughout the event!

I read the link, and you are one of few Indian members who actually try to look into the matter more seriously than regular rhetoric from defensive Indian members. Thanks!

But the highlighted part is a standard answer we hear from Indian members here, and it is like "yeah, we are not good at it, because we don't care" or "Going into a good college IS the uttermost goal for young people and parents alike, so we don't care anything else". But even the best of Indian universities are not competitive at all in the world stage, not to mention that 80% of engineers produced in Indian colleges are "unemployable". So what exactly Indian is good at? Spelling Bees?

If the sports is a luxury for India at this time, India at least should spend lot more on the primary and vocation educations, rather than on fancy state-of art military toys. But the percentage of GDP allocated for primary education is actually shrinking in 2016-2017 union budget. I am afraid this low-level cycle will continue for some time to come until some dramatic change takes place. To be honest, I don't see it in current Modi government, the Savior in many's eyes.

Thanks for the praise.

Regarding the education funding, @Nilgiri has clarified about it.

Regarding military funding; thanks for the advice. But No thanks, 1963 & Kargil will never be repeated in our nation's history. We will not be left unprepared the next time when the attack comes.
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" But the highlighted part is a standard answer we hear from Indian members here, and it is like "yeah, we are not good at it, because we don't care" or "Going into a good college IS the uttermost goal for young people and parents alike, so we don't care anything else". But even the best of Indian universities are not competitive at all in the world stage, not to mention that 80% of engineers produced in Indian colleges are "unemployable". So what exactly Indian is good at? Spelling Bees?"

See this is a very long story, I blame this on the risk-averse mentality prevalent among many Indians(which is a consequence of the environment/job market in the last few decades),the demand/need for a career which is safe & gives a lot fo money. & ,more importantly I blame this on the socialists,socialist functioning of the economy & those ideas.

Back in the old days, the only way you could get some money with a job was becoming a doctor/engineer/politics/bureaucracy.

The first 2 were the easiest ways , that's why they were popular. & thus people went to college to become one of them

@Nilgiri @Dungeness I recommend you read this article to understand this phenomenon to an extent.

http://www.thenationoftenrivers.com/kota-student-suicides-who-is-responsible/

To most Indians today(especially from the poor to the Upper Middle class) survival/safe job sadly matters. This is the consequence of failed policies & socialism. Few people are willing t do extraordinary & innovative+risky things because of it +Soceital pressure.

If you are interested in Humanities,governance,foreign policy,economics. There are very few colleges for you +soceital pressure

& yes quality is not so great in many institutions because most colleges exist to give degrees,lack of proper teachers in many cases,no updated syllabus,lack of interest in students thus bringing down the enthusiasm of the teachers thus creating a chain reaction etc.

If you frankly ask me I think out students are doing pretty good w.r.t to their conditions & the above factors!!

As Shashi tharoor once said the IITs are islands of excellence(or atleast close to it in India in my opinion) in the seas of mediocrity.
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& our youth have indeed achieved a lot, you can google it. Just see what Indian origin people in USA & UK have done. If the correct opportunity & training is given, Indian youth can do a lot more.
 
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Saina Nehwal crashes out.
She wasnt playing well at all, even in the last match against the Brazilian
, she really struggled to beat her, it shouldve been an easy win, not sure what happened...
 
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She wasnt playing well at all, even in the last match against the Brazilian
, she really struggled to beat her, it shouldve been an easy win, not sure what happened...
Her opponent picked easy cross court shots .. she wasn't at her 100%.

PV Sindhu's game is up next ... lets hope she does well.
 
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Her opponent picked easy cross court shots .. she wasn't at her 100%.
Yeah....very frustrating:cry:...well lets hope this is like the 2007 world cup, where everything that could go wrong, did.

PV Sindhu's game is up next ... lets hope she does well.
She dominated her opponent last game, felt good to watch :)
 
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India will be playing Belgium in QF tonight .... if we want to win we need to capitalize on chances created in the field. Drag flickers were off the mark in their previous game.
 
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wth man.........Nehwal lost against world number 61...........thats like 12 times lower rank then her.

it seemed like she is sick and not feeling well at all
 
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This has been truly disappointed outing so far for India. Wrestling is still to come lets hope we can get our hand on few bronze medals.
Perhaps the worst games for India in recent memory. We have been doing steady progress in the medle table ever since 2000 SYD games. But this one seems to have put the breaks on it. India needs to have a serious sports programme on the lines of Chinese..truly autocratic one. Like Make In India, Digital India, Swach Bharat...we need one for Sporting India too!
 
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