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Indian Navy set to negotiate purchase of Multi-Role Naval Helicopters
Wednesday, December 09, 2015
By: Zee News


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New Delhi: The Indian Navy is finally set to open price negotiations with Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation for buying 24 Seahawk S-70B shipboard multi-role helicopters (MRHs) for its operational requirements.

Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) sources told India Strategic defence magazine that although the helicopters were selected in December 2014, there were some issues over cost escalations due to the delay in the procurement process, and the Connecticut, US-based company's insistence that it could not hold the prices it had offered in 2008. Recently, however, Sikorsky had relented and its team is due to be invited soon for an early conclusion of the price negotiations.

The subject is also likely to be on the agenda during Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar's visit to Washington on December 9-10.

Notably, the Indian Navy had invited bids in 2008 from Sikorsky for S-70B and European NH Industries (NHI) for NH 90. There was some hesitation in opening the latter's bid, as Finmeccanina, which got embroiled in controversy over the acquisition of VVIP helicopters for the Indian Air Force (IAF), is a major partner in this European consortium.

Sikorsky accordingly had a walkover, but it asked for revision in prices as the selection process had taken more than twice the stipulated timeline and the delivery, in any case, has to be three years after the price negotiations conclude and a contract is signed. That is roughly 10 years after its offer was submitted.

Somehow, the MoD repeatedly sought extensions of Sikorsky's bid, delaying the acquisition process timelines from less than three years to six. Nonetheless, it said there was no provision for cost escalation during the selection and negotiation process.

Meanwhile, in another development, Sikorsky has been acquired by Lockheed Martin (LM) from United Technologies Corporation (UTC). After the completion of the merger process in early November, Sikorsky was shown for the first time as a Lockheed Martin company at the Dubai Airshow on November 8.

As for the current status in negotiations with the Indian Navy, the chief of the naval staff, Admiral Robin Dhowan, when asked about the Seahawks, replied that the process was now in an "advanced stage".

Notably, the tender, or Request for Proposals (RfP), had sought 16 helicopters with an option for eight more. But Admiral Dhowan had told India Strategic earlier that as the navy was short of these machines, the deal could be for all the 24 machines.

It may be recalled that the navy had originally planned to acquire 54 MRHs, and 16 of these should have come in 2007 as replacement for the first lot of quarter-century-old British Westland Sea Kings. More were to follow progressively. This has not happened, and the Sikorsky Seahawks are likely to start arriving only from 2019, more than a decade late.

The Sikorsky deal is estimated to be around $1 billion-plus for 16 helicopters but there is no official word yet on prices from either side.

Weapons and sensors will be extra - possibly from other companies but Sikorsky will integrate them in accordance with the contract. The weapon suite will have the capability to deal with both underwater (ASUW or anti-submarine warfare) and ASW (anti- surface-ship warfare). Among the suppliers for radars and weapons should be the US Raytheon and Telephonics as well as French Thales. The power plants (two engines per machine) will be from GE.

It may be noted that the Indian Navy has substantial achievements to its credit for building ships indigenously, and with a three aircraft carrier policy, it will need several hundred helicopters for engaging threats and for ship to ship or ship to shore communications.
 
24 is too low number...no?
I heard the requirement is near to 120...

NH 90 is a better option!!
 
sea kings are to old for ASW and SAR duty, these 24 helicopters will replace these aging sea kings and if we make LHD's we will need more Helicopters afterwards....
 
ASW Helis are urgent retirement of IN as aging sea king are too old to perform now
 
24 is too low number...no?
I heard the requirement is near to 120...

NH 90 is a better option!!

Total requirement is for 120+ naval helicopters

But these include 50 LUH and 76 MRH Helis

Navy will acquire 50 Kamov 220AN for LUH role, so as to ensure commonality with IAF and Army's acquisition of 200 of these
 
24 is too low number...no?
I heard the requirement is near to 120...
This was meant to be a procurement to addres the IN's immediate requirements but the MoD stretched the process out so now this figure (16+8) is insufficent to meet the current requrements of the IN that is for >100 MRHs now.

NH 90 is a better option!!
Not at all, the S-70B is the world's most advanced ASW/MRH helo.

Navy will acquire 50 Kamov 220AN for LUH role, so as to ensure commonality with IAF and Army's acquisition of 200 of these
Not true, the IN has its own NLUH tender and has no compulsion to go for commanality with the IAF/IA. They have always gone for what meets their own requirements regardless of the other forces. I think a US product is the most likely.
 
This was meant to be a procurement to addres the IN's immediate requirements but the MoD stretched the process out so now this figure (16+8) is insufficent to meet the current requrements of the IN that is for >100 MRHs now.


Not at all, the S-70B is the world's most advanced ASW/MRH helo.


Not true, the IN has its own NLUH tender and has no compulsion to go for commanality with the IAF/IA. They have always gone for what meets their own requirements regardless of the other forces. I think a US product is the most likely.
In the article is he referring to ka-27 or ka-220?
 
This was meant to be a procurement to addres the IN's immediate requirements but the MoD stretched the process out so now this figure (16+8) is insufficent to meet the current requrements of the IN that is for >100 MRHs now.


Not at all, the S-70B is the world's most advanced ASW/MRH helo.


Not true, the IN has its own NLUH tender and has no compulsion to go for commanality with the IAF/IA. They have always gone for what meets their own requirements regardless of the other forces. I think a US product is the most likely.


Check out the S400 acquisition thread
You will see that the same article also mentioned discussion regarding acquisition of 50 Helis for the Navy from Russia
These can only be the Naval version of Kamov 220
 
I guess ribko would have been tired of anticipation .

With present government, with procurement details havinge been sorted out,

It's going to gain momentum.
 
Check out the S400 acquisition thread
You will see that the same article also mentioned discussion regarding acquisition of 50 Helis for the Navy from Russia
These can only be the Naval version of Kamov 220
Untrue rumors, because LUH requirement include MTOW of 3.5+ ton.
IN need around 120 Medium MRH and 100 Light Utility helicopters.
Hopefully,Atleast 100 S-70 will be made in india in a follow on JV with a indian private company.
During this visit Modi may go for a handful of Ka-31 which is a AEW&C. Which is totally different.
 
Untrue rumors, because LUH requirement include MTOW of 3.5+ ton.
IN need around 120 Medium MRH and 100 Light Utility helicopters.
Hopefully,Atleast 100 S-70 will be made in india in a follow on JV with a indian private company.
During this visit Modi may go for a handful of Ka-31 which is a AEW&C. Which is totally different.

Their is always going to be a difference between what the arm forces wants and what they will get
BTW Navy had issued RFP for only 56 LUH and 16+60 MRH

You must also remember that Airforce wanted Eurocopter fenec but it got Ka220
They wanted 126 Rafales but will get probably 36+24
 
Their is always going to be a difference between what the arm forces wants and what they will get
BTW Navy had issued RFP for only 56 LUH and 16+60 MRH
Here Kamrov not even an option. None of their heli can compete with NH90 or S70.(unlike fenec)
IN requirement is for 120+ MRH unlike AF, Navy is not short of funds.(MMRCA)

Finally, in early 2013, IN issued a global RFI for more NMRH which probably went further than what most expected given that it was for 123 units , making it the largest such tender for multirole helicopters anywhere in the world. The stakes naturally are higher than ever before now.

The latest postponement of the opening of commercial bids for the initial tender however means that even if the contract were to be sewn up within this fiscal i.e 2013-14 the first helicopter cannot be delivered before 2015-16 at the earliest.

Moreover, a global RFP worth 6-8 billion U.S dollars to follow the new RFI for 123 NMRH in the 9 to 12.5-tonne maximum take-off weight (MTOW) class is likely to be issued which is attracting interest from a wider set of contenders including Lockheed Martin with its MH-60R/S (which shares its airframe with the S-70B), Eurocopter with its EC 725 Caracal and Russian Helicopters with Kamov products and perhaps even AgustaWestland with one of the navalized variants of the AW-101 Merlin.
Saurav Jha's Blog : The Indian Navy's helicopter plans and purchases

AW-101 MTOW crosses earlier RFI of 12.5 ton
S-70B would be cheaper and open to customization than MH-60R.
 
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