Indian Muslims should learn something from African Americans

[Cliftonite]

You are free to check Gujarat Highcourt judgement

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/20...ts-to-life-in-prison/articleshow/61001808.cms

Give the fact that Gujarat highcourt has convicted people of burning the train and given them life imprisonment tell me what you think about the post I wrote.


Nothing is going to happen but there is no tax on dreaming

BTW that Khalistani referrendum got postponed due to covid or is it still happening?

Who's talking in the immediate future chanda? I"m saying 10-20 years down the line.

 

[Soumitra]

Who's talking in the immediate future chanda? I"m saying 10-20 years down the line.

Again I say "There is no tax on dreaming"

 

[jamahir]

You are free to check Gujarat Highcourt judgement

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/20...ts-to-life-in-prison/articleshow/61001808.cms

It may have been that a mob surrounded the train but I don't believe in the correctness of that judgement. As I said, please check alternative findings, including under Lalu Prasad Yadav's tenure as Railway Minister.

The mob around that train was angry with those kar sevaks for misbehaving with Muslim women at the railway station. These particular kar sevaks did something as criminal as the kanwar yatris do every year :

We know from past experience that it is the Kanwariyas who indulge in violence along the routes that they travel. And ordinary citizens, irrespective of religious identity, suffer at their hands. The most recent corroboration of such apprehensions coming from last week’s incident where a car was smashed by Kanwariyas in the heart of Delhi and in full public view. The video capturing the violence shows two policemen nonchalantly strolling nearby as the vandals go about wrecking the car.

I come from Deoghar in Bihar, a favourite destination for the devotees of Shiva. Even the Pandas, who are supposed to help the Kanwariyas perform the rituals, have not been spared. Beating up Pandas, looting and indulging in violent acts have become a usual feature during the month of Shravan.

The criminal behaviour of Kanwariyas, violating traffic rules, three or four people riding a bike without wearing the mandatory helmet, openly moving around with hockey sticks and lathis, are all too evident. What are we going to see next? Swords and trishuls? After all, the trishul is the symbol of Shiva.

 

[Soumitra]

It may have been that a mob surrounded the train but I don't believe in the correctness of that judgement. As I said, please check alternative findings, including under Lalu Prasad Yadav's tenure as Railway Minister.

The mob around that train was angry with those kar sevaks for misbehaving with Muslim women at the railway station. These particular kar sevaks did something as criminal as the kanwar yatris do every year :

Your personal feeling doesn't matter in court. Evidence matters.

Why didn't the accused people use that Lalu Prasad report in their defense?

If they used it and the court rejected it it means that it was not credible.

You also want me to believe some leftist Islamist probably a JNU graduate writing about Kawar yatris.

Hell will freeze over before that happens

If I start quoting OpIndia and Swaraj magazine articles you don't believe me. At least they're open about their Right Wing slant.

Your NDTVs and The Hindus claim to be neutral while peddling a leftist narrative.

 

[xeuss]

Your personal feeling doesn't matter in court. Evidence matters.

Why didn't the accused people use that Lalu Prasad report in their defense?

If they used it and the court rejected it it means that it was not credible.

The Gujarat High Court did not allow use of the Justice Banerjee report during the trial.

Selective evidence was used to convict Muslims. This is the reality of India. If you are a Muslim, expect no justice. If you are a Hindu, you can kill Muslims and be rewarded with Prime Ministership.

 

[Soumitra]

The Gujarat High Court did not allow use of the Justice Banerjee report during the trial.

Selective evidence was used to convict Muslims. This is the reality of India. If you are a Muslim, expect no justice. If you are a Hindu, you can kill Muslims and be rewarded with Prime Ministership.

It was not a credible evidence you can still try in SC if you want.

And if you still feel that you can't get justice in India there are 56 other countries.

 

[xeuss]

It was not a credible evidence you can still try in SC if you want.

And if you still feel that you can't get justice in India there are 56 other countries.

The SC admitted the appeals of the 31 convicted in 2018. I don't think there has been progress since. I am not sure if the legal appeal process allows introduction of new evidence.

If the 56 other countries' legal process allowed for justice for crimes in India, it would certainly be an avenue that most of India would have taken, considering the pitiful state of India's legal process.

 

[jamahir]

The Gujarat High Court did not allow use of the Justice Banerjee report during the trial.

Here is a BBC article quoting that :

The inquiry commission's findings contradicted an earlier probe by retired Supreme Court judge Umesh Chandra Banerjee, who found that the coach fire was not deliberately started.

He concluded in 2005 that the fire began by accident.

He said there was evidence to suggest the blaze began inside the train and that it was not fire-bombed.

You also want me to believe some leftist Islamist probably a JNU graduate writing about Kawar yatris.

Hell will freeze over before that happens

If I start quoting OpIndia and Swaraj magazine articles you don't believe me. At least they're open about their Right Wing slant.

Your NDTVs and The Hindus claim to be neutral while peddling a leftist narrative.

You should say that to the people in that car being bashed up by those kanwar yatris.

 

[Soumitra]

You should say that to the people in that car being bashed up by those kanwar yatris.

You must extend your sympathy to people whose busses, vehicles and shops were burnt and looted during Shaheen Bagh protests

 

[xeuss]

You must extend your sympathy to people whose busses, vehicles and shops were burnt and looted during Shaheen Bagh protests

Another WhatsApp gem provided by Soumitra Sanghi.

There was no violence during the Shaheen Bagh protest, located at the Shaheen Bagh intersection.

There was some violence at other anti-CAA protests, the culpability of that has not been established, but circumstantial evidence points to involvement of Soumitra's Sanghi brethren.

 

[Soumitra]

Another WhatsApp gem provided by Soumitra Sanghi.

There was no violence during the Shaheen Bagh protest, located at the Shaheen Bagh intersection.

There was some violence at other anti-CAA protests, the culpability of that has not been established, but circumstantial evidence points to involvement of Soumitra's Sanghi brethren.

Keep on reading Fault News. Maybe there was no violence directly at Shaheen Bagh intersection in New Delhi, but all other places were claimed to be copies of Shaheen Bagh.

I used Shaheen Bagh as a catchall term for anti CAA protest

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Yeah, Muslims should become Hindus.

This way they will prosper (in this world), no doubt.

This is the only practical way out.

Do your Gharwapsi as soon as possible. Get out of our filthy ghetto and breath fresh air.

 

[Naofumi]

This is the only practical way out.

Do your Gharwapsi as soon as possible. Get out of our filthy ghetto and breath fresh air.

Dalits are still suffering.

 

[Soumitra]

Poll: Younger And Wealthier Americans Most Likely to Defend Looting

https://freebeacon.com/issues/poll-...nd-looting/amp/#click=https://t.co/D50vaN02Om

 

[ChennaiDude]

There are a lot of whites that join and strengthen the struggle of the blacks.

Thats the key here-Majority of America is not racist but have unconscious bias- The unconscious bias is a fact and until people start talking about it, its not going away- Even in India - unconscious biases is ingrained in our every day life- Introspection is important and the change starts right with that!

You cant fix the wrong with denial-you can work towards the fix, once we accept our faults.

Indians by and large are a meek society. When society does not even accept that injustice is happening (even those that are suffering it), it becomes very hard to affect a change.

Well said!

Secularism is the way, no one should become Hindu neither the opposite. Religion is a personal entity and it should be kept that way - inside your home only.

People have to realize that all religions are equal- No one religion is better than the other. Lets keep GOD out of our human inadequacies.

@Cliftonite You can look at your minorities plight before bothering about us, seriously that would your biggest contribution to us.

Day day the majority realize that its their duty to protect the minorities is the day the change will happen- Irrespective of the country, in my opinion-Might is right is always doomed to fail.

do something for chinese muslims .

Thats not the point- What are Majority Hindus doing for our Minority Muslims is the question? Who cares what the Chinese are doing- If you really want to take Chinese as an example-then lets take the positives that they do instead. Its on us the majority to stand up for our minorities-(Pakistan and China or any other are not the correct yardstick to measure India's ambition to be a truly secular union in pursuit of happiness)

I don't like the way you are painting us all with a broad brush.

We are Muslims.

I understand your frustration. But I wrote all the valid points. None of what you say is realistic.

The least you can do is give domicile status to Muslims from India fleeing persecution. This you can take to the UN too. Currently that option is totally closed. Those fortunate like us can leave for greener shores, but the vast majority of the poor have little option. They will either become Hindus and join our tormentors, follow RSS Islam and/or continue to suffer.

Lobby your Govt. to open the borders for Muslims of India. At least save as many lives as you can. Allah SWT will bless your generations.

Dear Pakistanis, this might be a place to score a few points off our misfortune, but please remember a few things.

1. Pakistan would never have been realised without all our support. You can't forget us in our need and you sure as hell can't abuse us when we are this far down.
2. When the NRC is done, there WILL be massive pressure for Muslims to leave Islam. Unless you assist with humanitarian assistance of simply providing refugee status to the most hapless of Muslims, they will perish - or at least the culture will.

This is a plea. I can't bring myself to beg, but this is as far as I can go. Forgive me.

At last this is one post I think I can appreciate you on-Kudos for this.

Brother, we desire a happy life with education, freedom, health, safety and proportional representation, what else should we desire?

In pursuit of happiness- We all strive for this- irrespective of religion.