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if you don't mind, how did you distinguish a tibetan from a gurkha? that too if he cover his face, as many in the army cover their face in J&K(you know this).

Hmm..by his language.As ihave interacted with thousands of soldiers i would know.Please go and read the stories in indian Special Forces thread and you would come to know that i interact with soldiers a lot.I like spending time in their company,playing outdoor games and having food with them in their langar.That is where i get my knowledge from and not from NDTV or India Tv.

Moreover the military bases are common no matter how secretive the unit is.If they would have been in Kashmir i would have come to know.Everyone in my family has served the RR tenure and my old man was at a high post there.

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These are Gurkhas.

No offenses but i reallly like the energy levels of these new guys who join defence forums for SF knowledge.

HAHA..they think we oldies who have spent 7-8 years on the net and some like me even in the real life are making a mistake and they only are right.

P.S--Take it in a lighter sense.
 
Hmm..by his language.As ihave interacted with thousands of soldiers i would know.Please go and read the stories in indian Special Forces thread and you would come to know that i interact with soldiers a lot.I like spending time in their company,playing outdoor games and having food with them in their langar.That is where i get my knowledge from and not from NDTV or India Tv.

Moreover the military bases are common no matter how secretive the unit is.If they would have been in Kashmir i would have come to know.Everyone in my family has served the RR tenure and my old man was at a high post there.



These are Gurkhas.

No offenses but i reallly like the energy levels of these new guys who join defence forums for SF knowledge.

HAHA..they think we oldies who have spent 7-8 years on the net and some like me even in the real life are making a mistake and they only are right.

P.S--Take it in a lighter sense.

Sometimes they quieten down and get the picture bro ;)
 

Yeah! man I really love these machines. I was thinking that Algeria and Libya should have joined with the Russians on this machine to make it in their own country by taking license and putting some Russian as well as EU Avionics on it with mixed weapons. I think for both countries having about 250 would be great and save on Maintenance due to similarity in every way.
 
Hmm..by his language.As ihave interacted with thousands of soldiers i would know.Please go and read the stories in indian Special Forces thread and you would come to know that i interact with soldiers a lot.I like spending time in their company,playing outdoor games and having food with them in their langar.That is where i get my knowledge from and not from NDTV or India Tv.

These are Gurkhas.

No offenses but i reallly like the energy levels of these new guys who join defence forums for SF knowledge.

HAHA..they think we oldies who have spent 7-8 years on the net and some like me even in the real life are making a mistake and they only are right.

P.S--Take it in a lighter sense.

None taken, Brethren. It would be great to learn from gentlemen like you. Just to clear record in terms of PDF only, I am not new here. I joined PDF in 2008-09 and following PDF even before that, from '07.

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Pardon me Sir, but i dont want to be under the list of computers to keep a check on by the Intel units.

SFF is not the same force as it was and SG doesnt do these type of operations commonly called the 'snatching operations' where terrorists are nabbed from a foreign country and brought to justice.There is no need of a specialst for this job.These ops are done by IB and RAW.

On the other hand RAW has a unit of specialists under it which does this...cant tell you the name.And i have no idea on the composition and weapons.


=> Again I am telling you, Its a covert deep penetration force and working in tandem with RAW or you can say its a armed hand of RAW. It evolved from an SF to Black Ops unit in last couple of decades, thats why anyone hearing much about SFF. It execute operations of very clandestine nature "Internationally'. My source??? I can't share.
 
None taken, Brethren. I would be great to learn from gentlemen like you. Just to clear record in terms of PDF only, I am not new here. I joined PDF in 2008-09 and following PDF even before that, from '07.

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Pardon me Sir, but i dont want to be under the list of computers to keep a check on by the Intel units.

SFF is not the same force as it was and SG doesnt do these type of operations commonly called the 'snatching operations' where terrorists are nabbed from a foreign country and brought to justice.There is no need of a specialst for this job.These ops are done by IB and RAW.

On the other hand RAW has a unit of specialists under it which does this...cant tell you the name.And i have no idea on the composition and weapons.


=> Again I am telling you, Its a covert deep penetration force and working in tandem with RAW or you can say its a armed hand of RAW. It evolved from an SF to Black Ops unit in last couple of decades, thats why anyone hearing much about SFF. It execute operations of very clandestine nature "Internationally'. My source??? I can't share.

Bro,i wasnt talking about you about the new guys.Its was for this new member 'special'.I have no problem with what you post and neither this new guy 'special'..its just that he is so full of energy :lol:


Comming to the topic ...RAW had 2 black ops team CIT-X and CIT-J in the 80s..CIT-J was taken out in the 90s after the end of Khalistan movement and CIT-X is operating with a new name and more deadly.It is not related to SG..thatswhere we guys are confusing ourselves.

I have no idea about this unit...but i have a feeling that they still operate in pakistan after the IK Gujral fck up and who knows might even be active in Afghanistan.

These guys are so professional that they managed to infiltrate the LET and created a rift among the terrorist groups.They have several operators taking training in pakistani terrorist camps.
 

Pakistan Army is the guide, mentor and monitor of militants

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Former deputy Army chief Lt. Gen. Ravi Sawhney (Retd)—SONDEEP SHANKAR

Why are Line of Control (LoC) incursions taking place so frequently of late? Does our own border management protocol needs to change?

There is no normalcy around the LoC. When Pakistan is hell-bent on creating problems in Jammu and Kashmir, there can be no stability. While the perception is that the incursions on the LoC have increased, the reality is that they never ceased. The Pakistanis plan these incursions methodically.
There are 30 to 40 terrorist bases across the LoC in ****************** Kashmir (***) from where extremist fighters of different tanzeems (organisations) infiltrate with the backing of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).
We have tried many methods to check this and a successful one was the LoC fence to stop infiltration. The border management protocol does not need any change. It is the Pakistanis who have to be leveraged to stop this terrorism. The Pakistan Army does not want to change.

When a Pakistan Army border action team acts against an Indian patrol on the Indian side, shouldn’t India respond instantly in that sector or in a neighbouring sector with a design to inflict heavy casualty so that there is a deterrence factor in reality? Is there a political impediment here?

To retaliate in the same sector would be militarily stupid. That’s the difference between an Army and a mob. The Indian Army ought to retaliate in a time and manner of its choosing. When retaliation takes place from our side, Pakistan does not publicise it. At a tactical level, no commander worth his salt will ask for political clearance at every stage. But there is a political impediment in not having a strategic culture especially when no armed forces inputs are sought when national policy is made. Shouting in Parliament is not political support.

Does the pattern of our training, and the ready availability and use of weapons at the LoC, need to be different in order to be more effective?

Modernisation of the armed forces is needed. More funds are needed. There should be more electronic surveillance. When there is to be acquisition of weaponry and equipment from abroad, there is such rigmarole that ultimately we don’t get the equipment.
There should be a time-frame for acquisitions. The pattern of training can’t be better. The Indian Army is a most disciplined force. But one trend is that some of these incidents have happened during “turnovers” when one battalion replaces another on the LoC. This is the most vulnerable time. The new boys (freshly-deployed soldiers) need some time to be familiar with the geographical features of an area.

The Chinese are in ***. Has there been any sign of late that in facilitating infiltration in Kashmir they are aiding and abetting the Pakistanis?

No, the Chinese are more sensible than the Pakistanis. They would much rather give the Pakistanis nuclear and missile technology. The Chinese will not be involved in tactical matters in ***. But there are strategic implications arising from their presence. There are tunnels coming up in ***. Even if there are only Chinese Army engineers in ***, they are Armymen.

Are incidents such as the beheading of our soldiers in the Mendhar sector in January and the recent killing in the Poonch sector possible without clearance from senior levels of the Pakistan Army?

Such incidents are not possible without clearance from the Pakistan Army. There is congruence between the jihadis (militants) and the Pakistan Army. The Army uses the jihadis effectively as force-multipliers. In the case of the latest attack, it is impossible for 20 people to cross the LoC from ***, and pass through Pakistani Army pickets without the knowledge of the Pakistan Army.
The operation was obviously well-planned and there are reports that for 13 days prior to the attack, civilians had been barred in *** from the vicinity of that area. For the past 13 days, they had been watching the area. They carried out the attack and exfiltrated successfully. The Pakistan Army is the guide, mentor and monitor of the militants.

Do you see jihadis and regular Army personnel conducting assaults against us together, and is this becoming a pattern?

Was there ever a doubt about this? Earlier, only militants would infiltrate into India and attack our soldiers with the full backing of the Pakistan Army.
But now Pakistani border action team commandos are themselves coming in and carrying out attacks. This is a dangerous new element.
It is not a case of someone dressing in Pakistan Army uniform. It is Pakistan Armymen that sometimes dress as militants, but militants never put on Pakistan Army uniform. The Pakistan Army appears to be sending a message to their civilian establishment that you can’t conduct a peace process without the Pakistan Army’s support.
What does this indicate? A design by Pakistan to keep the LoC unsettled in spite of the commitment made to India to maintain ceasefire and not allow Pakistan territory to be used by terrorists to attack India?
This design by Pakistan is nothing surprising. We are prepared for it. But a continued showing of patience reflects a weakness on our part. Our verbal signals have become just hot air. There has got to be anger shown. We cannot be fiddled with. There is a strain on our troops but they are showing tremendous fortitude. Even Western Armies are amazed at how the Indian Army is facing the situation.

‘Pakistan Army is the guide, mentor and monitor of militants’ | The Asian Age
 
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