Indian Media: The Formidable Second Aircarft Carrier of China.

[OrionHunter]

While browsing through Baidu news, came across this. Someone by the name of lj posted this hilarious article on a Chinese forum. The title itself got me cracking.

Got you cracking? And you couldn't even post a translation? Sadist!!

 

[Daedalus]

Got you cracking? And you couldn't even post a translation? Sadist!!

Its 11 pages article bro. Dont have that much time on hand. Its tedious job. I will translate few sentences,

1) 近日，有媒体报道中国第二艘航母正在建造，其中排水量有望匹敌美国尼米兹级的10万吨，而且还将尝试电磁弹射，这意味着，中国航母将实现跨越式发展，一跃成为世界最先进航母国行列。
China's second aircraft carrier which is under construction, will displace 100,000 tons and is expected to rival the U.S. Nimitz class, it will also feature electromagnetic catapults, which means that Chinese carriers will leapfrog many years of development, and china will became one of the worlds most advance AC builder.

2)这意味着，外界对于中国军方打造航母的预测，一一变成现实，只是第二艘航母就上核动力，确实让印度万万没想到。
The world forecast that china will build 11 AC. The Indians never imagined that Chinese 2nd AC will be nuclear powered.

3)纵横龙骨中间夹一层密封垫和厚度100mm甲板钢板(钢板用直径20-25mmx长150-180mm锣丝紧固密封于纵龙骨上)，这样就等于有2层浮力，底层即便全坏进水，航母也不会沉没，只要9套驱动不全坏，还有10-15节的航速。
Here he goes on to say that the AC will be unsinkable ( and yes he uses the word "UNSINKABLE")

The whole article is full of it.

 

[OrionHunter]

Its 11 pages article bro. Dont have that much time on hand. Its tedious job. I will translate few sentences,

1) 近日，有媒体报道中国第二艘航母正在建造，其中排水量有望匹敌美国尼米兹级的10万吨，而且还将尝试电磁弹射，这意味着，中国航母将实现跨越式发展，一跃成为世界最先进航母国行列。
China's second aircraft carrier which is under construction, will displace 100,000 tons and is expected to rival the U.S. Nimitz class, it will also feature electromagnetic catapults, which means that Chinese carriers will leapfrog many years of development, and china will became one of the worlds most advance AC builder.

2)这意味着，外界对于中国军方打造航母的预测，一一变成现实，只是第二艘航母就上核动力，确实让印度万万没想到。
The world forecast that china will build 11 AC. The Indians never imagined that Chinese 2nd AC will be nuclear powered.

3)纵横龙骨中间夹一层密封垫和厚度100mm甲板钢板(钢板用直径20-25mmx长150-180mm锣丝紧固密封于纵龙骨上)，这样就等于有2层浮力，底层即便全坏进水，航母也不会沉没，只要9套驱动不全坏，还有10-15节的航速。
Here he goes on to say that the AC will be unsinkable ( and yes he uses the word "UNSINKABLE")

The whole article is full of it.

Oh wow!! Have they got hold of some alien technology??

 

[chhota bheem]

While browsing through Baidu news, came across this. Someone by the name of lj posted this hilarious article on a Chinese forum. The title itself got me cracking. Believe me, no media house in India is talking about Chinese AC (1st or 2nd) for quite a while now. Very jingoistic and self praising of him.
印媒：中国第二艘航母太可怕 竟敢这么做
(I wasn't able to translate it precisely, But in mandarin its funny)
中国军方打造第二艘航母的消息备受外界关注，无论是航母的排水量，还是舰载机的起飞方式，都是外媒热议话题。比起美日的紧盯，印度作为中国的邻国之一，更多的表示中国航母建造能力很不可思议。

近日，有媒体报道中国第二艘航母正在建造，其中排水量有望匹敌美国尼米兹级的10万吨，而且还将尝试电磁弹射，这意味着，中国航母将实现跨越式发展，一跃成为世界最先进航母国行列。

报道称，中国国内媒体消息指出，中国船舶重工集团公司(中国两个主要的造船厂之一)发布消息称，其一个研究机构已得到国家批准并获得拨款，正式开始着手研究核动力船舶核心技术。这意味着，外界对于中国军方打造航母的预测，一一变成现实，只是第二艘航母就上核动力，确实让印度万万没想到。

中国发展航母是世界大国中最滞后的，目前，中国仅有一艘辽宁舰，但是辽宁舰的战斗力跟世界先进航母的差距非常大。而且辽宁舰采用滑跃起飞，舰载机搭载的燃油和武器都有限，达不到中国建设远洋海军的需求。

美国最新的情报分析也相信，中国大陆解放军海军要拥有更强大的海权，最少需要有三个航母战斗群，并且编列五艘的航母，才能打造真正的解放军的航母海上舰队。
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香港杂志提到，随着中国大陆解放军第一艘的航空母舰正式地服役之后，将会面临一系列新的挑战，将逐渐在现实的大海的训练，以及实战演习当中摸索克服，而中国大陆的海军也认为，修了第一艘的航空母舰的成军，可以形成大海上攻防兼备的强大的海上体系，使到中国大陆海军的水面舰艇、潜艇、航空兵力量形成综合的联合的战斗力。
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Dont know what that it.
中国要在21世纪打造一支远洋海军，显然需要更多的航母作为支撑。据推测，中国航母的需求量保守估计是6艘，这也就意味着中国三大舰队每个至少要装备两艘，才能满足国防和打造远洋海军的需要。

All together its a 11 pages article. Comparing the AC with Ford and Nimitz class AC's.

印媒：中国第二艘航母太可怕 竟敢这么做-花季乐园-中学生频道- 未来网-hjly.k618.cn 中国未成年人健康上网平台

Translate pls

 

[Daedalus]

Oh wow!! Have they got hold of some alien technology??

This guy seems to be one of the aliens. He explained in full detail how to conquer India, Russia, Japan and Vietnam.

Translate pls

Check out post #18 and im translating some more here.


This is just a fanboy article, please don't start bashing each other.


Just for laughs.

随着技术的不断成熟和建成的航母数量的增多，预计中国海军会在2030年前后达到同美国海军差不多的航母数量，并且在航母的技战术应用上也会达到类似的水平. 那时，中国将真正步入同任何国家全球争霸的时代!

The number of AC built will increase as technology contiunues to mature, by 2030 chinese navy is expected to have same number AC as that of the US Navy and the carrier's technical and tactical applications will achieve a similar level. At that time, china will be able to break any country’s hegemony over the world ( US)


中国60万吨航母问世：美日惊呼不可能！

China to roll out 600,000 tons carrier: US, Japan says its impossible

发展巨型航母将突出十大绝对优势越、菲、日等在南海、东海之所以不断侵占中国领海，是美国在后撑腰作祟。

The reason for continued occupation of south and east china sea is the mischievous ways of US. The development of 10 giant ACs will highlight absolute superiority over Vietnam, the Philippines and Japan in south and east china sea territorial waters.

要解决南海问题，东海问题、台湾统一问题、中东乱局问题、围堵中国问题等，寻其一切根源，归根结底就是中国空、海军战力弱小的原因。因此，首先要解决我国空海军问题，我国军费预算必须提高到GDP总额的10%。

In the final analysis, the South and East China Sea issue, the issue of reunification of Taiwan, the Middle East mess, the problem of containment of China, etc., all find their roots in the weak Chinese air naval warfare. Therefore, we must first solve the problem of navy, this can be done by increasing China's military budget to 10% of the total GDP.

我国的长远战略目标应该是(一)2020年统一台湾，含南海被占岛礁，一天也不能拖;(二)2025年尽量统一蒙古;(三)2030年对日二战杀害我军民3700万正式索赔(日本市长岂能赖掉南京大屠杀)，兼冲绳等岛礁。(四)2030-2060年，如果我国领导人和人民有意愿和意志收回西伯利亚和远东，南起鄂比河，北至白岭海峡，含千岛群岛，西为北冰洋海岸，东至蒙古，2060年-2100年南北极分一杯羹约300-400万土地。


Our long-term strategic goal should be to (a) by 2020 reunification of Taiwan, including the South China Sea islands and the occupied reefs, this cannot be delayed by a single day; (b) by 2025 unify Mongolia; (c) by 2030 make Japan pay $185 trillion for the Nanjing Massacre of 37 million civilians in the WW 2. (d) By 2030-2060, if our leaders and people have the will, we will recover Siberia and the Far East, south of the Ob River (Russia), north Bering Strait, including the Kuril Islands, the west coast of the Arctic Ocean, east of Mongolia, by 2060 -2100 we will have approximately 3-4 million polar land.

完成这一关键任务的关键是投入70-100万亿美元(从日赔款中的一部分)，制造装备部署5000-6000架机载强光炮等强大的空、海、陆军，构建国土全疆岸360度范围，100%完成发导反卫星任务。

The key to complete this mission-critical goals is to spend $ 70-100 trillion (part of the reparations from the Japanese), manufacturing equipments, deployed 5000-6000 airborne aircraft guns and other powerful weapons, something about 100% ASAT missions.


My favourite part is yet to come (how to conquer India).

 

[chhota bheem]

@Daedalus please mention me when you add how to conquer India

 

[Daedalus]

@OrionHunter @chhota bheem
15只60万吨航母及作战群，8-10万艘500-1000吨鱼船登陆艇，300万从中印、中尼、中巴边界分多路立体进攻;200万海军陆战队单向透明从海上奇袭大规模登陆。一天内全线突破印度所有边防线，2天内攻入新德里，15天内分隔包围，30天内全歼印数百万大军。一旦打赢就不是9万土地，90万或190万，或南方所有接壤山区段划归我都有可能。那就是胜者为王，败者成寇，还得赔款数十万亿美元，奴役百年。

Deploy 15 aircraft carrier battle group (600,000 tons each) and 500 to1000 fishing vessels (80,000-100,000 ton) used as landing crafts, three million armed forced rushed to India from Nepal, Pakistan in a Multi-dimensional offensive; In a surprise attack will follow from the sea with large scale landing of 2 million marines opening a new front.In a single day the Indian boarder line will be broken all across the board, reaching New Delhi by 2nd day and surrounding it on all sides by 15th day. In 30 days time millions in their army will be wiped out.Winner takes all, land, tens of trillions of dollars and loser will suffer hundred years of slavery.

 

[longlong]

@OrionHunter @chhota bheem
15只60万吨航母及作战群，8-10万艘500-1000吨鱼船登陆艇，300万从中印、中尼、中巴边界分多路立体进攻;200万海军陆战队单向透明从海上奇袭大规模登陆。一天内全线突破印度所有边防线，2天内攻入新德里，15天内分隔包围，30天内全歼印数百万大军。一旦打赢就不是9万土地，90万或190万，或南方所有接壤山区段划归我都有可能。那就是胜者为王，败者成寇，还得赔款数十万亿美元，奴役百年。

Deploy 15 aircraft carrier battle group (600,000 tons each) and 500 to1000 fishing vessels (80,000-100,000 ton) used as landing crafts, three million armed forced rushed to India from Nepal, Pakistan in a Multi-dimensional offensive; In a surprise attack will follow from the sea with large scale landing of 2 million marines opening a new front.In a single day the Indian boarder line will be broken all across the board, reaching New Delhi by 2nd day and surrounding it on all sides by 15th day. In 30 days time millions in their army will be wiped out.Winner takes all, land, tens of trillions of dollars and loser will suffer hundred years of slavery.

Why not offer hime a medicine reminder?

 

[chhota bheem]

@OrionHunter @chhota bheem
15只60万吨航母及作战群，8-10万艘500-1000吨鱼船登陆艇，300万从中印、中尼、中巴边界分多路立体进攻;200万海军陆战队单向透明从海上奇袭大规模登陆。一天内全线突破印度所有边防线，2天内攻入新德里，15天内分隔包围，30天内全歼印数百万大军。一旦打赢就不是9万土地，90万或190万，或南方所有接壤山区段划归我都有可能。那就是胜者为王，败者成寇，还得赔款数十万亿美元，奴役百年。

Deploy 15 aircraft carrier battle group (600,000 tons each) and 500 to1000 fishing vessels (80,000-100,000 ton) used as landing crafts, three million armed forced rushed to India from Nepal, Pakistan in a Multi-dimensional offensive; In a surprise attack will follow from the sea with large scale landing of 2 million marines opening a new front.In a single day the Indian boarder line will be broken all across the board, reaching New Delhi by 2nd day and surrounding it on all sides by 15th day. In 30 days time millions in their army will be wiped out.Winner takes all, land, tens of trillions of dollars and loser will suffer hundred years of slavery.

It was really funny dude thanks for the laugh.

 

[OrionHunter]

China to roll out 600,000 tons carrier: US, Japan says its impossible

The new Chinese Airborne 600,000 tons aircraft carrier....

The smaller Chinese 50,000 to AAC......This one has an anti grav propulsion system and an electro-magnetic shield that is impervious to nuclear attack....

Chinese X-Wing Star Fighter....

And finally, the Chinese Tiger Shark AAC....

Be afraid...Very afraid!

 

[rcrmj]

I don't even need to elaborate,chinese shipbuilding is like a decade ahead of indian.
If u don't know this then u are lying to urself

im not talking about Chinese ship building capability, im simply saying that there are going to be only one 001A which is the 'liaoning' upgrade version, and the third carrier is going to be the indigenous one

 

[he-man]

im not talking about Chinese ship building capability, im simply saying that there are going to be only one 001A which is the 'liaoning' upgrade version, and the third carrier is going to be the indigenous one

No one knows what they have in mind.
I am only worried about our pathetic shipbuilding,though its showing some signs of improvement

 

[rcrmj]

Do you know what the Type 001A stands for?

The Type 001 is Liaoning, while the Type 001A means an improved version of Liaoning.

The Type 002 is a completely breakthrough, it will feature three steam capults, two on the bow and one on the angle deck.

航母的代号是048工程，而第一批国产航母就是两艘，一艘大辽改，一艘红色小鹰

这两艘航母是由两家不同的船厂建造，所以将不会是一艘接着一艘建造的，都是产不多时间内开工的

your previous post said

But both Type 001A and Type 002 are considered as the first batch of the indigenous carrier

, and I replied that there is no such thing called the first batch, and you need to understand that 001 and 002 projects are two different project, 001/001A are of based on Varyag‘s hull and 002 is indigenous in terms of everything``

Do you know what the Type 001A stands for?

The Type 001 is Liaoning, while the Type 001A means an improved version of Liaoning.

The Type 002 is a completely breakthrough, it will feature three steam capults, two on the bow and one on the angle deck.

航母的代号是048工程，而第一批国产航母就是两艘，一艘大辽改，一艘红色小鹰

这两艘航母是由两家不同的船厂建造，所以将不会是一艘接着一艘建造的，都是产不多时间内开工的

your previous post said

But both Type 001A and Type 002 are considered as the first batch of the indigenous carrier

, and I replied that there is such thing called the first batch, and you need to understand that 001 and 002 projects are two different project, 001/001A are of based on Varyag‘s hull and 002 is indigenous in terms of everything``

 

[scholseys]

i am still waiting for a carrier that has a hll like the zumwalt class destroyer. A stealth carrier.

 

[applesauce]

i am still waiting for a carrier that has a hll like the zumwalt class destroyer. A stealth carrier.

that would be a terrible carrier

a carrier wants a big deck, a zumwalt design would instead minimize deck space, aka: exactly the opposite of what you would want for a carrier.

besides hull shaping is not as big a worry for a carriers because you are going to have tons of planes, trucks, bombs, men and other stuff on deck to ruin your rcs anyways