Indian IT support team behind UK’s Natwest bank meltdown?

[ChinaToday]

London: A flawed computer programme of the UK bank Natwest, which was being supervised by an IT support team in India, was behind the chaos for thousands of Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) customers after it encountered a problem in its transaction processing software.

The banking giant was urgently seeking computer graduates with several years experience of using CA-7, the programme which the bank uses to run its vast network of transactions and accounts.

The RBS had reportedly advertised for a series of key jobs at the bank, paying between 9,000 to 11,000 pounds a year, in the Indian city of Hyderabad, which is way below what an equivalent worker is normally paid in Britain.

The job advertisement read: ‘Looking for candidates having 4-7 years of experience in Batch Administration using CA-7 tool. Urgent requirement by RBS.’

According to the Daily Mail, the technology website ‘The Register’ claimed that the transaction software, CA-7, needed to be updated, and the Indian staff who were employed by the bank, needed to oversee the software, round the clock to solve any faults.

Problems began on Tuesday night when the CA-7 was being updated, when some crucial files were deleted in the process. While the bank authorities spotted the error, but the same technical snag was repeated on Wednesday and again on Thursday.

It was only on Friday morning when the bank staff realised the full scale of the crisis, were urgent calls made to the Indian IT staff and troubleshooters were drafted in.

The problem was that every single transaction that was waiting in the queue had to be reprocessed in strict order of arrival, causing further delays over last weekend.

However, the RBS has consistently denied that the decision to relocate jobs to India has made any difference to its handling of the situation, and denied that its controversial job outsourcing programme has been responsible for the transaction processing fiasco.

It merely claimed that the ‘software error occurred on a UK-based piece of software’, but declined to clarify where the staff overseeing the software were based.

Computer Associates, which owns CA-7, declined to comment on what had caused the problem.

The fiasco is believed to be the longest and most widespread problem of its kind since the advent of computer banking.

Indian IT support team behind UK

 

[jagjitnatt]

RBS employs engineers at half the salary a normal IT company pays. You can only expect idiots at that salary package.
RBS pays Rs 1.8 L compared to 3.5 L from Infy, TCS.

Had they started paying like a company, they would have got something back. You employ idiots and then complain?

 

[Black Widow]

RBS employs engineers at half the salary a normal IT company pays. You can only expect idiots at that salary package.
RBS pays Rs 1.8 L compared to 3.5 L from Infy, TCS.

Had they started paying like a company, they would have got something back. You employ idiots and then complain?

RBS pays like sh!t, in this money you will get faulty software.

 

[ChinaToday]

RBS employs engineers at half the salary a normal IT company pays. You can only expect idiots at that salary package.
RBS pays Rs 1.8 L compared to 3.5 L from Infy, TCS.

Had they started paying like a company, they would have got something back. You employ idiots and then complain?

Any link to support your claim?

 

[Hulk]

RBS employs engineers at half the salary a normal IT company pays. You can only expect idiots at that salary package.
RBS Rs 1.8 L compared to 3.5 L from Infy, TCS.

Had they started paying like a company, they would have got something back. You employ idiots and then complain?

Well my brother is VP at RBS and they pay high salaries in senior management.

 

[protest]

Any link to support your claim?

Hahaha.. Do you want RBS to quote how much they pay? Indian software engineers like above know the pay differences. No body advertises or write articles about how little a company pays.

 

[Android]

Any link to support your claim?

its written in the article
"The RBS had reportedly advertised for a series of key jobs at the bank, paying between 9,000 to 11,000 pounds a year, in the Indian city of Hyderabad, which is way below what an equivalent worker is normally paid in Britain"

 

[jbond197]

The RBS and NatWest IT breakdown: Life's a glitch (and then you cry)

In the Hollywood action thriller Die Hard 4 there is a moment when Bruce Willis's ageing New York detective, John McClane, discovers just how much havoc can be wrought through a computer keyboard. Hackers have infiltrated America's IT systems and brought the country to its knees, taking down the transport grid, crippling its banking sector and knocking out key utilities such as water and electricity. It is left up to a more informed younger colleague to explain what has happened. "They call it a fire sale," he says. "Because everything must go."

In many ways the film is Hollywood at its most paranoid. But it taps into our legitimate concerns that the world's overwhelming reliance on computers leaves us acutely vulnerable when they go wrong or are attacked. Computers make the world go round and grease the cogs of industry. But like any piece of machinery, sometimes they break down.

The recent collapse of IT systems at the Royal Bank of Scotland, NatWest and Ulster Bank offer us a vivid illustration of how vulnerable we become when computers say no. For the past seven days thousands of people up and down the country have had trouble with their bank accounts after a reported software update at parent company RBS went wrong and caused the banks' IT systems to break down. For many angry customers, bills have gone unpaid, holidays have had to be abandoned and pay day has yet to come.


Yesterday, RBS group chief executive Stephen Hester promised customers that the banks had "turned a corner" in dealing with the defective systems and said senior executives would face "proper accountability" for the fiasco. An email sent to account holders added that the banks would waive overdraft fees for those caught up in the payments backlog. But last night as consumer confidence continued to plummet, Mr Hester was facing calls to be stripped of his bonus for a second year.

Sadly RBS is not the only banking group within the global financial sector to have been hit by computer glitches. In the past two years, HSBC, JP Morgan and TD Bank have had to navigate their way through angry consumer backlashes after their IT systems suffered glitches. Earlier this month, just half an hour of computer troubles on the American stock exchange racked up a $40m bill for Nasdaq, which had to reimburse investors who tried to by Facebook shares but couldn't.


"Taken on an individual basis these glitches seem like small fry," said one IT expert within the banking sector, who asked not to be named. "When you add them up, though, you have to start asking yourself whether we're really doing enough to make sure we are prepared for the worst case scenarios."

But banking is only one sector among thousands that need computers to work properly.

"Ultimately, when you look around there's barely an industry or system that doesn't rely on computer technology to run some of its core functions," says Rik Ferguson, a cyber-security analyst at Trend Micro. "The telecoms industry is a real concern because by its very nature it has to be connected to the web. But there are also real vulnerabilities in healthcare and the world of finance."

Cyber security is often portrayed as protecting an organisation from outside attack. The threat of hackers and those who want to break in to steal data, money or just create carnage is real. But while companies spend millions building walls to keep people out, they often fail to make sure the houses inside are constructed properly.

"People spend so much time, effort and energy trying to beef up their security for external threats rather than worrying about internal weaknesses," says Jay Sappidi, senior director at CAST Research Labs, which specialises in testing the quality of software coding, the building blocks of IT programmes. "It's like building a house. You create a building which has a bedroom, a kitchen and a bathroom. Everything appears to be working fine. But what you haven't done is tested whether it can withstand a heavy rainstorm or an earthquake."

RBS's current software woes do not appear to have been caused by an external threat. Official company statements have so far blamed unspecified "technical glitches". But insiders say the problems began when a software update went wrong causing a malfunction in the payments system which then created a crippling backlog.


Critics – including the Unite union and IT experts – have accused the bank of compromising its computer systems by outsourcing key work to India. RBS has insisted the software glitch was a UK problem, which rules out outsourcing but does little to defend the company from the accusation that its coding was not up to scratch.


While companies fear external attacks, more often than not it is poor coding and software glitches that create havoc. Late last year, millions of BlackBerry users around the world had limited or no access to their emails. Much of the press speculation surrounding the cyber systems of the Canadian mobile phone manufacturer had concentrated on whether their emails could ever be cracked by authoritarian regimes or hackers. In the end, what compromised BlackBerry's ability to deliver to its customers was a comparatively simple server swap that went wrong.

Critical utilities – such as power stations, electricity grids and water providers – are largely kept off the internet for security reasons. But the recent cyber attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities have shown that there are still ways to infiltrate closed networks.

But even if companies have secure IT systems, they still have to plan for breakdowns outside their control such as the internet going down. Cyber space is often thought of as an entirely ephemeral thing. But while data is pinged around the world wirelessly the internet itself still relies on physical structures such as servers and cables. And like any physical structure, it can be damaged.

Cables are particularly vulnerable. Earlier this year, nine countries across East Africa and the Middle East experienced a dramatic slowdown in internet speeds and disruption to phone calls.

You could be forgiven for thinking something enormous had occurred. In fact, the cause of the problem was a single ship, moored outside the Kenyan port of Mombasa, which had dropped its anchor on to the only fibre optic cable delivering the internet to East Africa. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen in the English Channel.

Waiting to go wrong? Weak spots in modern life

Financial markets: A temporary software glitch earlier this month cost Nasdaq more than $40m during the flotation of Facebook's shares. The US tech stock exchange had to compensate investors who were unable to buy shares when the market opened.


Cloud computing: Amazon suffered a highly embarrassing bug last spring when part of its much vaunted cloud service went down. Client websites such as Quora and Reddit were temporarily forced offline because they relied on Amazon's servers


Fibre optics: Millions of internet users in nine countries across East Africa and the Middle East saw dramatic slowdowns in internet speed earlier this year when a ship's anchor damaged the only fibre optic cable bringing internet to the area.


Cyber warfare: When Russia went to war with Georgia over the breakaway republic of South Ossetia in 2008 we saw the closest thing yet to a fire sale. Coordinated cyber attacks were launched against media, communications and transportation companies, paralysing Tbilisi's ability to communicate.


Air travel: LA International airport virtually shut down in 2007 when crucial internet cables burned out. Thousands of passengers were stranded for 24 hours before the problem was resolved. More recently, a persistent bug cost United Airlines hundreds of millions of dollars earlier this year.


Personal banking: Banking chiefs at NatWest and RBS insist that they are over the worst of the technical issues but customers are still complaining of payment issues. NatWest has waived overdraft fees and told customers they can withdraw £100 more than their limit over the next few days.

 

[IndoCarib]

However, the RBS has consistently denied that the decision to relocate jobs to India has made any difference to its handling of the situation, and denied that its controversial job outsourcing programme has been responsible for the transaction processing fiasco.

It merely claimed that the ‘software error occurred on a UK-based piece of software’, but declined to clarify where the staff overseeing the software were based.


There you go. RBS itself doesn't blame Indian IT support

 

[ChinaToday]

its written in the article
"
The RBS had reportedly advertised for a series of key jobs at the bank, paying between 9,000 to 11,000 pounds a year, in the Indian city of Hyderabad, which is way below what an equivalent worker is normally paid in Britain"

Wtf???? if they pay you guys same as they pay in uk then what is the point to outsource to india???????

 

[IndoCarib]

IT problems not linked to India outsourcing: RBS - The Economic Times

 

[livingdead]

Wtf???? if they pay you guys same as they pay in uk then what is the point to outsource to india???????

If the Indian team messed up, why are they advertising in India to do the firefighting for them?
So many companies in India do this daily for their clients, it could be either team, but if something goes this wrong means they were not following proper processes.

Most companies dont jump into outsourcing, they start with a small one, which grows as confidence grows. The compexities of outsourcing grows as relationship grows.
But both sides know what to expect from each other.

 

[jagjitnatt]

Any link to support your claim?

http://www.cgc.edu.in/downloads/files/n4f9e790450650.pdf