Indian forces accused of blocking care for Kashmiris

[Valar Dohaeris]

Rights group alleges security forces held up emergency vehicles and harassed patients after protests turned violent.

At least 80 civilians have been killed and about 12,000 wounded in almost five months of confrontation in Kashmir [EPA]

Indian security forces have been accused of blocking medical treatment for wounded protesters in the disputed region of Kashmir by holding up ambulances and harassing hospitalised patients.

Physicians for Human Rights said not only did police and paramilitary forces use excessive force during months of unrest, they also hindered people from seeking medical attention, increasing the likelihood of permanent injuries and deaths.

"Such delays in care are violations of the long-standing protections afforded to medical workers and facilities in times of conflict and civil unrest," said Widney Brown from the New York-headquartered advocacy group.


"What's more, the doctors we interviewed said police were present in their hospitals, intimidating patients, and monitoring those being admitted."

The report also said security forces harassed medical workers attempting to treat protesters and prevented doctors from reaching the hospitals where they work.

At least 80 civilians were killed and about 12,000 wounded in almost five months of confrontation between demonstrators and security forces, sparked by the killing of a leading separatist fighter in a joint army and police operation on July 8.

Kashmir is at the centre of a decades-old rivalry between India and Pakistan, which rules a northwestern section of the divided region.

PHR's report - based on hospital records and interviews with doctors, witnesses and victims - found police used 12-gauge shotguns loaded with metal pellets that directly caused an estimated 5,200 injuries and at least a dozen deaths.

"Injuries inflicted by 'less than lethal' weapons like pellets, rubber bullets, and shotguns require early medical intervention to avoid permanent or debilitating injury, including loss of life," said the report.

"In Kashmir, delays in accessing medical care for hundreds of injured protesters increased the risk of permanent damage, including for those with eye injuries."

In August, the Indian government said it would review the use of pellets, while a spokesperson for the Jammu and Kashmir government told Al Jazeera the weapons would be phased out.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Hi,

Can you put a link to the original source

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

Hi,

Can you put a link to the original source

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...-blocking-care-kashmiris-161206140720970.html

 

[Prince of Dorne]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...-blocking-care-kashmiris-161206140720970.html

kashmiris has every right to have a better life, but with the terrorists pouring in I can't blame the security officials if they are more vigilante this time

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

kashmiris has every right to have a better life, but with the terrorists pouring in I can't blame the security officials if they are more vigilante this time

Kashmiri have a right to better life as free citizen, you are right, about 7 lac terrorist have been poured in the beautiful valley to terrorize innocent people. Hope one day Kashmiri will have their right to have security forces.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Kashmiri have a right to better life as free citizen, you are right, about 7 lac terrorist have been poured in the beautiful valley to terrorize innocent people. Hope one day Kashmiri will have their right to have security forces.

You see this is your forum so you can get away easily with this remark, and the numbers are actually 70 millions, infact most of the adult population of North India are currently based in Kashmir.

Don't you think if Pakistan stopped supporting the terrorist kashmiri would have the chance to see a better life, there won't be any reason for anti-insurgency forces to be there if there is no insurgency

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

kashmiris has every right to have a better life, but with the terrorists pouring in I can't blame the security officials if they are more vigilante this time

Then give them their right of referendum .

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

You see this is your forum so you can get away easily with this remark, and the numbers are actually 70 millions, infact most of the adult population of North India are currently based in Kashmir.

Don't you think if Pakistan stopped supporting the terrorist kashmiri would have chance to see a better life, there won't be any reason for anti-insurgency forces to be there if there is no insurgency

What do you mean by getting away with this remark ? Your first hateful and insulting comment toward innocent Kashmiris who have been victim of brutality of your forces was also allowed to be posted on our forum.

And you have also managed to inject 70 millions Indian to change demographic identity of Kashmir beside putting 7 lac occupation force ?

And lastly, tell me, who cam first, so called counter-insurgency ( read occupying ) army or freedom fighters ?

 

[Prince of Dorne]

What do you mean by getting away with this remark ?

I mean there is a forum rule of not disrespecting men in uniform irrespective of their nationality, I have seen Pakistanis violating that rule and getting away with it since this forum is run by Pakistanis.

Your first hateful and insulting comment toward innocent Kashmiris who have been victim of brutality of your forces was also allowed to be posted on our forum.

Dude why you people always have to be so angry and enraged? calm down and show where did I make hateful comment.

And you have also managed to inject 70 millions Indian to change demographic identity of Kashmir beside putting 7 lac occupation force ?

For God sake, don't be a kid, that was sarcasm.

And lastly, tell me, who cam first, so called counter-insurgency ( read occupying ) army or freedom fighters ?

Islamic militants came first supported by our beloved neighbor so our army had to step in

 

[Trango Towers]

kashmiris has every right to have a better life, but with the terrorists pouring in I can't blame the security officials if they are more vigilante this time

My dear try to understand why people take up arms. If Kashmiri's are so happy with delhi why don't they reject external help? Fact is the youth are fed up with RSS terrorists and the likes of Modi so after 69 years they want a change. Isn't that their right. After all you claim to be a democracy but is that democracy only what a Hindu wants?

 

[Prince of Dorne]

My dear try to understand why people take up arms. If Kashmiri's are so happy with delhi why don't they reject external help? Fact is the youth are fed up with RSS terrorists and the likes of Modi so after 69 years they want a change. Isn't that their right. After all you claim to be a democracy but is that democracy only what a Hindu wants?

Brother, there will always be reasons behind people taking up arms, you see, this is an extremely poor logic, I can use the same and tell you that TTP people also used to be civilians once, they were royally pissed when US started bombing them in their own land, killed their children while the Pakistani government stood silently and watched how their own people are getting droned back to oblivion, only then TTP took up arms to punish the Pakistani state.

You see any narrative can be twisted to fit your own agenda, please don't get me wrong , I wish all the best to Pak army on their war against TTP. Just wanted to show you the logical fallacy of your argument.

Then give them their right of referendum .

Sure, gladly, just waiting for you to vacate your part of the kashmir

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

I mean there is a forum rule of not disrespecting men in uniform irrespective of their nationality, I have seen Pakistanis violating that rule and getting away with it since this forum is run by Pakistanis.



Dude why you people always have to be so angry and enraged? calm down and show where did I make hateful comment.

I respect the rule of the forum, but calling the use of brutal force and very high rate of civilians casualties as More Vigilant approach is a volition of forum rules same as calling those who are doing it as terrorist.

For God sake, don't be a kid, that was sarcasm.

I knew that was a sarcasm, I responded upon complete apprehension.

Islamic militants came first supported by our beloved neighbor so our army had to step in

Indian army came first and stated occupation.

 

[ShoutB]

they were never praised for helping them during floods.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

I respect the rule of the forum, but calling the use of brutal force and very high rate of civilians casualties as More Vigilant approach is a volition of forum rules same as calling those who are doing it as terrorist.

It does not matter, neither do I feel bad considering this is a Pakistani forum, since you are relatively new here, I thought to share this info with you, it's up to you now, going ahead if you maintain a level of decency I will engage in a civil debate with you, if not i'll just chuckle and move on, no big deal.

Back to topic: You see for us this is a law and order situation, we do not handle it any more strictly than what you do in baluchistan

Indian army came first and stated occupation.

Indian army was always there, who do you think was guarding the borders before the insurgency started taking shape?

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

It does not matter, neither do I feel bad considering this is a Pakistani forum, since you are relatively new here, I thought to share this info with you, it's up to you now, going ahead if you maintain a level of decency I will engage in a civil debate with you, if not i'll just chuckle and move on, no big deal.

Back to topic: You see for us this is a law and order situation, we do not handle it any more strictly than what you do in baluchistan



Indian army was always there, who do you think was guarding the borders before the insurgency started taking shape?

Baluchistan is an integral part of our country, on the other hand, Kahsmir is a disputed territory. There is no comparison of of both. Now having said that, we are not stopping mosques, temple, church from operating in Baluchistan neither there is any curfew situation imposed in quetta since three months. There are no pallet guns being used openly in Baluchistan. And no mass rallies for freedom.
How could Indian army be present there before freedom of India ? And why there is insurgency in kashmir since "always" ?