Indian External affairs minister Jaishankar speaks on China's global role

[beijingwalker]

Indian External affairs minister Jaishankar speaks on China's global role

Today, S Jaishankar, the Union's foreign affairs minister, in a conference said that the Quad grouping is the answer to international organizations’ reluctance to reform. Unilateralism's days are past, bilateralism has its limits, and multilateralism is just not functioning well enough, according to him.

Jaishankar elaborated on Indo-China ties by recounting how previous Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China in 1988 to strengthen New Delhi's relationship with Beijing based on the assumption that the border would remain quiet and serene. He goes on to claim that India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border.

 

[MH.Yang]

What is "India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border".

It is India provoked the kalwan conflict, India first broke the agreement. Now Indian pretended that they were the victims? This is shameless.

 

[STREANH]

What is "India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border".

It is India provoked the kalwan conflict, India first broke the agreement. Now Indian pretended that they were the victims? This is shameless.

Why would India provoke a much stronger neighbour who also happens to be its largest trading partner? Does it make any sense to you? The whole region knows of Chinese PLA salami slicing tactics. Every neighbour of China has complaints against Chinese occupation/encroachment of its territory.

It was the PLA that provoked India due to it's increasing cordial relations with the US. There are a lot of videos on the internet where you can see PLA holding a large red banner and encroaching on Indian territory. The government used to ignore this as these are remote wastelands and not worth to antagonize China over it, but they can't be blind when strategic areas are being taken over by PLA. So it is China that is doing the deceptive and shameless act.

 

[HalfMoon]

Indian External affairs minister Jaishankar speaks on China's global role

Today, S Jaishankar, the Union's foreign affairs minister, in a conference said that the Quad grouping is the answer to international organizations’ reluctance to reform. Unilateralism's days are past, bilateralism has its limits, and multilateralism is just not functioning well enough, according to him.

Jaishankar elaborated on Indo-China ties by recounting how previous Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China in 1988 to strengthen New Delhi's relationship with Beijing based on the assumption that the border would remain quiet and serene. He goes on to claim that India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border.

Does the powers ruling India realize that US has just dumped India in favor of Pakistan and China?

QUAD is dead on Arrival.

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[MH.Yang]

Why would India provoke a much stronger neighbour who also happens to be its largest trading partner? Does it make any sense to you? The whole region knows of Chinese PLA salami slicing tactics. Every neighbour of China has complaints against Chinese occupation/encroachment of its territory.

It was the PLA that provoked India due to it's increasing cordial relations with the US. There are a lot of videos on the internet where you can see PLA holding a large red banner and encroaching on Indian territory. The government used to ignore this as these are remote wastelands and not worth to antagonize China over it, but they can't be blind when strategic areas are being taken over by PLA. So it is China that is doing the deceptive and shameless act.

You are lying.
It was the Indian army that first invaded Chinese territory. And it was the Indians who attacked the Chinese first.
Indians believe that China is in a trade war with the USA, so Indians believe that PLA will not stop India's aggression. This is why Indians provoked the kalwan conflict.
The PLA has never had any sausage cutting tactics, which is a rumor fabricated by the Indian media. We have always respected the Indian people and Indian sovereignty. It is Indians who have betrayed our trust.

 

[beijingwalker]

Every neighbour of China has complaints against Chinese occupation/encroachment of its territory.

Maybe you mean every neighbor of India, China has 14 neighbors, the most in the world, India is the only country having active land dispute with China among them.

There are a lot of videos on the internet where you can see PLA holding a large red banner and encroaching on Indian territory.

Video evidence only clear show that Indians being aggressors marching towards Chinese soldiers.

 

[newb3e]

Why would India provoke a much stronger neighbour who also happens to be its largest trading partner? Does it make any sense to you? The whole region knows of Chinese PLA salami slicing tactics. Every neighbour of China has complaints against Chinese occupation/encroachment of its territory.

It was the PLA that provoked India due to it's increasing cordial relations with the US. There are a lot of videos on the internet where you can see PLA holding a large red banner and encroaching on Indian territory. The government used to ignore this as these are remote wastelands and not worth to antagonize China over it, but they can't be blind when strategic areas are being taken over by PLA. So it is China that is doing the deceptive and shameless act.

yeh man!!

india is the cutest country in whole of asia that has no inspirations no dreams!

 

[Titanium100]

What is "India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border".

It is India provoked the kalwan conflict, India first broke the agreement. Now Indian pretended that they were the victims? This is shameless.

They are puppets who wish harm upon China and pray day and night for something bad to happen to China. No neighbour likes the Indians in the entire region because they are not authentic and fake ppl and nobody likes a fake person with a fake identity other than his own they differ from everyone in the region in a more cringeworthy way they are try hards and wannabes

 

[STREANH]

You are lying.
It was the Indian army that first invaded Chinese territory. And it was the Indians who attacked the Chinese first.
Indians believe that China is in a trade war with the USA, so Indians believe that PLA will not stop India's aggression. This is why Indians provoked the kalwan conflict.
The PLA has never had any sausage cutting tactics, which is a rumor fabricated by the Indian media. We have always respected the Indian people and Indian sovereignty. It is Indians who have betrayed our trust.

Your argument actually supports the claim that China invaded Indian territory and not vice versa. A trade war between US and China could benefit India and other regional countries through shifting US investments to these countries . There is zero reasons for India to encroach on Chinese territory due to a trade war between China and US. You do realize that China is India's largest trading partner and also a neighbour. There isn't any reason to antagonize China unless it involves our sovereignty.

In fact India has always tried to solve the border issue even ready to make big compromises ever since the days of Zhou Enlai, but China has always delayed this and is asserting its hegemony by triggering embarrassing border incidents. There weren't any major issues between Indian Kingdoms and Chinese Kingdoms since antiquity, but that changed ever since the CCP came to power.


Regarding the sausage cutting tactics you can see the summarized article below.
Chinese salami slicing strategy - Wikipedia- Although I don't consider Wikipedia as a source, there are numerous citations that are a good reference for this topic.

Maybe you mean every neighbor of India, China has 14 neighbors, the most in the world, India is the only country having active land dispute with China among them.

Video evidence only clear show that Indians being aggressors marching towards Chinese soldiers.

You conveniently ignored the numerous sea disputes from almost every neighbouring country in that region. Also as I said earlier, India has been proactive in settling the border issue, but China doesn't want to solve it and instead resorts to what it does best, i.e. salami slicing.
The video evidence is the one that happened after the initial incident that killed 20 troops, and is more of a local skirmish.

 

[beijingwalker]

You conveniently ignored the numerous sea disputes from almost every neighbouring country in that region.

You mean South China Sea disputes? it's a disputes between all neighboring countires in that region, don't make it sound like it's only China having disputes with everyone there, it's everyone with everyone there, and China has the least number of islands than other claimants in SCS. and it's a peaceful dispute which all claimants have channels open for peaceful negotiations, you don't see bullet flying around in SCS, it's still one of the most peaceful regions in the world. You lies and slandering don't fare well in front of the ground reality.

 

[STREANH]

You mean South China Sea disputes? it's a disputes between all neighboring countires in that region, don't make it sound like it's only China having disputes with everyone there, it's everyone with everyone there, and China has the least number of islands than other claimants in SCS. and it's a peaceful dispute which all claimants have channels open for peaceful negotiations, you don't see bullet flying around in SCS, it's still one of the most peaceful regions in the world. You lies and slandering don't fare well in front of the ground reality.

1. The nine-dash line area claimed by the Republic of China (1912–1949), later the People's Republic of China (PRC), which covers most of the South China Sea and overlaps with the exclusive economic zone claims of Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
2. Maritime boundary along the Vietnamese coast between the PRC, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
3. Maritime boundary north of Borneo between the PRC, Malaysia, Brunei, Philippines, and Taiwan.
4. Islands, reefs, banks and shoals in the South China Sea, including the Paracel Islands, Pratas Island and the Vereker Banks, Macclesfield Bank, Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands between the PRC, Taiwan, and Vietnam, and parts of the area also contested by Malaysia and the Philippines.
5. Maritime boundary in the waters north of the Natuna Islands between the PRC, Indonesia and Taiwan[17]
6. Maritime boundary off the coast of Palawan and Luzon between the PRC, the Philippines, and Taiwan.
7. Maritime boundary, land territory, and the islands of Sabah, including Ambalat, between Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines.
8. Maritime boundary and islands in the Luzon Strait between the PRC, the Philippines, and Taiwan.

Although there are disputes within the regional countries, China clams everything including the EEZs of several nations and continues its hegemony over the SCS. Also you can't expect poor fishermen to fire bullets when they are facing a Chinese coast guard vessel which is armed to the teeth.

Following is an article of how China disregards International arbitration ruling and still continues its Salami slicing.
5 years after Hague ruling, China's presence in South China Sea grows (cnbc.com)

 

[beijingwalker]

1. The nine-dash line area claimed by the Republic of China (1912–1949), later the People's Republic of China (PRC), which covers most of the South China Sea and overlaps with the exclusive economic zone claims of Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
2. Maritime boundary along the Vietnamese coast between the PRC, Taiwan, and Vietnam.

Do you know you are talking about the same government, Taiwan ( republic of China) , has exactly the same claim as PRC, and it's the first one to make this claim, why don't ask ROC?
China's claim is still close to home, while many western countries have their "territories" half away from the earth, how do you explain that?

 

[beijingwalker]

1. The nine-dash line area claimed by the Republic of China (1912–1949), later the People's Republic of China (PRC), which covers most of the South China Sea and overlaps with the exclusive economic zone claims of Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
2. Maritime boundary along the Vietnamese coast between the PRC, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
3. Maritime boundary north of Borneo between the PRC, Malaysia, Brunei, Philippines, and Taiwan.
4. Islands, reefs, banks and shoals in the South China Sea, including the Paracel Islands, Pratas Island and the Vereker Banks, Macclesfield Bank, Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands between the PRC, Taiwan, and Vietnam, and parts of the area also contested by Malaysia and the Philippines.
5. Maritime boundary in the waters north of the Natuna Islands between the PRC, Indonesia and Taiwan[17]
6. Maritime boundary off the coast of Palawan and Luzon between the PRC, the Philippines, and Taiwan.
7. Maritime boundary, land territory, and the islands of Sabah, including Ambalat, between Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines.
8. Maritime boundary and islands in the Luzon Strait between the PRC, the Philippines, and Taiwan.

Although there are disputes within the regional countries, China clams everything including the EEZs of several nations and continues its hegemony over the SCS. Also you can't expect poor fishermen to fire bullets when they are facing a Chinese coast guard vessel which is armed to the teeth.

Following is an article of how China disregards International arbitration ruling and still continues its Salami slicing.
5 years after Hague ruling, China's presence in South China Sea grows (cnbc.com)

Do you agree that those islands should belong to Maynmar?

 

[MH.Yang]

Your argument actually supports the claim that China invaded Indian territory and not vice versa. A trade war between US and China could benefit India and other regional countries through shifting US investments to these countries . There is zero reasons for India to encroach on Chinese territory due to a trade war between China and US. You do realize that China is India's largest trading partner and also a neighbour. There isn't any reason to antagonize China unless it involves our sovereignty.

In fact India has always tried to solve the border issue even ready to make big compromises ever since the days of Zhou Enlai, but China has always delayed this and is asserting its hegemony by triggering embarrassing border incidents. There weren't any major issues between Indian Kingdoms and Chinese Kingdoms since antiquity, but that changed ever since the CCP came to power.


Regarding the sausage cutting tactics you can see the summarized article below.
Chinese salami slicing strategy - Wikipedia- Although I don't consider Wikipedia as a source, there are numerous citations that are a good reference for this topic.




You conveniently ignored the numerous sea disputes from almost every neighbouring country in that region. Also as I said earlier, India has been proactive in settling the border issue, but China doesn't want to solve it and instead resorts to what it does best, i.e. salami slicing.
The video evidence is the one that happened after the initial incident that killed 20 troops, and is more of a local skirmish.

You're lying again.
There is no reason for China to compete with India for those highland wastelands. China's only purpose is to protect our CPEC, and China only needs to guard the actual control line to achieve its purpose.
But the India has always wanted to cut off CPEC and cut off the ties between China and Pakistan. It is India that is using sausage cutting tactics against China.

China did not cause 20 casualties to India.
China only killed three Indian troops in the compelled counterattack, and the remaining 17 deaths were caused by the Indian army itself. It has nothing to do with the Chinese.
China also rescued 10 Indian soldiers abandoned by the Indian army from the river, including 4 field officer. This proves that the Chinese army is friendly and well intentioned.

 

[Adonis]

What is "India achieved this through a series of agreements that created trust, including one that specified don't bring your military near the border".

It is India provoked the kalwan conflict, India first broke the agreement. Now Indian pretended that they were the victims? This is shameless.

So I come and sit at your house door and if you say please back off...it is provocation. Who did what is understood to all...your neighbours in SC sea, India, Japan, even Russia can give testimony on you expansionist intentions.