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Talgo’s Delhi-Mumbai Rajdhani route trial: Spanish train takes less than 12 hours in final 150 kmph run
By: Smriti Jain | New Delhi | Published: September 11, 2016 7:16 AM
Talgo trial: Exclusive image of speedometer hitting 150 kmph during final trial run on Delhi to Mumbai Rajdhani route.
In a big boost to Indian Railways’ dreams of semi-high speed trains, Talgo’s train completed its last Delhi-Mumbai Rajdhani route trial in less than 12 hours! This is a four hours time relief from the Rajdhani which takes almost 16 hours to complete the approximately 1,388 km distance. Vijay Kumar, Executive Director, Infrastructure told FE Online, “The train left New Delhi at 14:45 hours on Saturday afternoon and reached Mumbai Central at 02:33 hours, that is in 11 hours and 48 minutes. This includes around 6 minutes of irregularities or unusual occurrences. So, the total time taken was actually 11 hours 44 minutes.” Talgo had in its simulation claimed that the total time it would take is 11 hours and 44 minutes.
The trial was conducted at a maximum permissible speed of 150 kmph and a cant deficiency of 100mm. Cant deficiency is a technical parameter that deals with the speed of the train on curves. Talgo says that the natural tilting mechanism of its coaches and the fact that they are lightweight allow them to attain higher speeds on existing Indian tracks. Talgo’s coaches have been undergoing trials since May and have gone through rigorous tests to successfully meet the targets set by Indian Railways.
Also read: Talgo’s trains for Indian Railways: 3 litmus tests it had to clear
The Delhi-Mumbai Rajdhani route trials have been the most stringent ones, involving a long distance, various speeds and cant deficiencies. Prior to that, Indian Railways conducted speed trials of this Spanish train on the Mathura-Palwal stretch, where the train beat Gatimaan, Rajdhani and Shatabdi to clock the highest-ever speed on Indian tracks – 180 kmph. The nine-coach Talgo train is being pulled by an Indian Railways coach (diesel/electric) and consists of two Executive Class cars, four Chair Cars, a cafeteria, a power car and a tail-end coach.

http://www.financialexpress.com/eco...2-hours-suresh-prabhu-indian-railways/373282/

Railways to drive out illeagal Encroachment from its properties.

Union Minister for Statistics and Programme Implementation D V Sadananda Gowda, who chaired a meeting to review the railway projects said, "Encroachment will be cleared without any consideration and compromise.''

http://m.deccanherald.com/articles....lways-clear-encroachments-its-properties.html

PS:-Brace yourselves, Berozgar Secular Parties coming to free India from " Suit Boot ki Sarkar".
 
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11-09-2016

#Economy:Indian courts have been twacking one builder or the other for not delivering homes they promised buyers of late. The Supreme Court hauled up Unitech and Parsvnath asking them to refund monies. The High Courts too are seized of builder versus buyer cases and the national consumer court is now the default go-to option for home buyers in distress.

#Finance:Just retired RBI Governor clean-up of more than $100 billion of stressed assets on the books of banks today came in for praise from President who felt rising NPAs are not a desirable situation.

#From October next year, all new models of cars will have the mandatory feature of "manual override", a device that enables a person to open the door with or without electrical power. Similarly, all new models will have "vehicle reverse gear sensor system", which helps the driver detect any object behind the car.

#Mera Bharat Mahaan:Khadi and Village Industries Commission has launched a toll free number for access to all sector-related programmes and information. The services will be available between 8 am to 8 pm, six days a week.

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Sir
Please :cheers:
I think talgo has fewer passenger coaches when compared to other Indian trains. Can it accommodate the same number of people as a rajdhani does ?
You are correct, in current layout, carrying capacity of TALGO is lesser than Rajdhani express. The present rake layout of 12951/52/53/54 (Rajdhani + August Kranti) is as follows:
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That gives you a total capacity of (11*72) + (5*54) + (1*24) = 1086 passengers in (3,2 and 1 AC).

TALGO 250, whose trial run (sans the original power cars took place), has following layout
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The seating capacity of this setup is as follows:
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This can be modified to 300.
Now this value is equal to that of a Rajdhani express running with First AC and Second AC coaches only (270+24=294).


The power input to original TALGO setup is by two power cars (one at each end) and the total power provided is ~6500 HP to run at 250 kph max speed.
Indian test run was done with a 4500 HP Diesel and a 5400 HP WAP 5 and train easily reached 180 kph with simulated loading of passengers.
From here we have 2-3 different scenarios
  1. India can straight away purchase TALGO 250 set modified to Indian requirements and reach 200+ kph speeds. this would however require India to develop maintenance and training facilities for power units of Spanish train set.
  2. Purchase only coaches and use them in manner, same as trials ie by putting an Indian locomotive and run upto 180-190 kph. The speed is reduced but since locomotive is already Indian, no new facility creation for power units would be required. Coaches can be maintained by contract to OEM or at existing facilities by a small new setup.
  3. Purchase only coaches, add two locomotives similar to Spanish setup (2* WAP5 / WDP4), increase a bit of capacity and run at 180-190 kph with increased passenger capacity. However this is not much different that running 2 trains.
@Abingdonboy asked once on procurement of power cars and as per information available in March April this year (when trials were yet to commence), the general view was that complete train set would be purchased.
But last month during Mumbai Delhi Trials, a railway official told, that perhaps India would want to purchase coaches only and not the power car. As the trials have shown, TALGO runs flawlessly with Indian Locomotives and offers an amazing ride quality. This has prompted an idea to purchase new coaches in large numbers and run them behind Indian Locomotives and this would be the fastest mode of introduction. Albeit this option comes with a speed penalty vis a vis original setup that can go upto 250.
CLW on its part is already gearing (or re-gearing;)) its WAP5 to go upto 200 kph
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So a semi high speed travel of upto 200 kph between few cities (initially i believe Delhi-Mumbai/Kolkata) should be possible within next 2-3 years.
by that time India can decide based on progress of DFC (& corresponding decongesting of routes) and performance of TALGO (in terms of passenger patronage), how to move further.
IMHO TALGO is a brilliant technology and IR should move ahead without any further delays in its commercial introduction.
 
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why is the Talgo tested with indian locomotives and not the original traction units ?
  1. Indian Railways wanted to check the stability and performance of tilting coaches on tracks.
  2. The speed was limited to 180 kph, well below top speed limit of 250 kph that the trainset can do. for this Indian locomotives are more than sufficient.
  3. Bringing in Spanish power unit, would've meant delays as Indian drivers can't drive them. Training them would've taken time. In trials, Indian drivers drove the train and as i hear they are all gaga over train's performance.
  4. Spain wanted the trials as quickly as possible and in those circumstances use of Indian locomotives with coaches guided by RENFE technical team was fastest way possible.
 
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12-09-2016

#Economy:Employees Provident Fund Organisation had provided 8.8% rate of interest on EPF deposits for 2015-16 despite Finance Ministry's ratification for 8.7%.

#Finance:SBI Chairperson says a 25 basis points cut in interest rates was in the offing and that an improvement in the financial health of India's banking sector was closely linked to the overall performance of the economy.

#Instead of focusing on individual monuments or historical land marks, of which Delhi has an enviable number having been a capital city for ages under innumerable dynasties, India National Trust for Art and Cultural Heritage proposes to create heritage circuits that would showcase each historical legacy in a better way.

#Mera Bharat Mahaan:The Govt's effort to get people to voluntarily disclose their black money, under the IDS, has had a tepid response, with only about Rs 4,000 crore reported till mid-August. The four-month window for disclosing black money deposits will close at the end of this month. The informal target for the scheme was tax collection of Rs 40,000-50,000 crore. To collect that amount, the disclosure would have have to be about Rs 1 lakh crore.

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Railways take ‘punctuality’ to a whole new track; reports 82% improvement

http://www.railnews.co.in/railways-take-punctuality-to-a-whole-new-track-reports-82-improvement/

New Delhi: Indian Railways, which on Wednesday shocked passengers with plans to raise basic fares on the Rajdhani and other superfast trains by as much as 235% in a surge pricing model, has also reported an improvement in the overall punctuality rate after improvisation on the Ghaziabad-Mughalsarai route, with mail and express trains improving their performance by over four per cent to clock 80.83 per cent punctuality during April-August.

Overall, the punctuality rate of the Railways increased to 82.09 per cent in August from 81.62 per cent in the corresponding month last year.

Punctuality of mail / express trains during April-August this year was 80.83 per cent against 76.66 per cent in the corresponding period last year, an increase of 4.17 per cent.

The punctuality of local trains between April and August this year was 77.45 per cent against 73.99 per cent in the same month in 2015.

The railway ministry attributed the improved performance to a series of steps being taken for improvement in the 761-km-long Ghaziabad-Mughalsarai route.

Punctuality of mail / express trains, particularly those traversing through quadrilateral routes such as Delhi-Howrah, Delhi-Mumbai, Delhi-Chennai and Howrah-Mumbai corridors have been adversely impacted as these sectors are facing severe capacity constraint due to saturated line capacity.

These routes are also increasingly being used for freight traffic, including transport of raw materials, coal for power generation plants, petroleum products, food grains, fertiliser, steel and export oriented container traffic.

The ministry, in fact, created a ‘mobility directorate’ to improve punctuality in passenger service and speed up freight movement.

The busy Ghaziabad-Mughalsarai corridor, which includes the Allahabad junction that caters to the movement of 120 trains in a day, and runs services to key railway stations, including Aligarh, Moradabad, Tundla, Bareilly, Etawah, Kanpur Central, Lucknow, Mirzapur and Varanasi.

Railways managed to avoid technical glitches like engine and traction failures by judicious use of assets to decongest movement of trains along the over-saturated route, officials pointed out.

While these measures helped to control external factors affecting punctuality, Railways also managed to keep assets in shape to avoid internal glitches.

Other than asset failures, various constraints /difficulties, such as line capacity constraints on account of increasing passenger and freight traffic, adverse weather conditions (fog, rains, breaches), intermittent natural calamities such as floods, cyclones, heavy rains; heavy road traffic at level crossing gates across the rail network also adversely affect punctuality of trains.

Law and order problems, including public agitations and bandh calls in left wing extremism-affected areas, miscreant activities such as theft of railway assets, mid-section run over cases involving cattle and humans also cause delays in train operation.
 
http://www.icis.com/resources/news/...vehicle-production-grows-16-1-sales-up-23-7-/

India August vehicle production grows 16.1%; sales up 23.7%
08 September 2016 08:51 Source:ICIS News
SINGAPORE (ICIS)--India’s total vehicle production in August rose by 16.1% year on year to 2.31m units, with domestic sales up by 23.7% at 2.01m units, industry data showed on Thursday.

Two-wheelers accounted for 79.8% of the total production and 82% of overall sales, according to the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers (SIAM).

Production of passenger vehicles in August grew by 9.99% year on year to 324,599 units, with sales up 16.7% at 258,722 units and exports rising by 27% at 75,483 units.



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US data firm Factset to set up its largest global office in Hyderabad

American financial data and analytics firm Factset has sealed a deal to set up an 8.6-lakhsquare-feet office in Hyderabad, its largest in the world, earmarking Rs 800 crore for lease rentals over 15 years. The Nasdaq and NYSE-listed firm, which has 8,000 employees in 40 locations across 21 countries, is gearing up to hire 7,000 employees for Hyderabad alone, said two persons close to the deal.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 
DELHI METRO NEWS

A whopping Rs 43 lakh in cash, 283 mobile phones and 79 laptops were among the belongings left behind by commuters while travelling in the Delhi Metro till August this year, according to the rail network's 'lost and found' data.

The recovery of cash forgotten and later restored to the traveller, as per data accessed by PTI, is one of the largest in the last few years. For the entirety of last year, the corresponding figure was only over Rs 18.80 lakh.

Source :- New Indian Express
 
Railways considering introduction of Talgo type trains between metros

NEW DELHI: After the successful trial of Spanish made Talgo train, Railways is considering introduction of light weight aluminium coaches in the rail network to reduce the travelling time between metropolis.

The Talgo train completed its final trial between Delhi and Mumbai in less than 12-hours at a maximum speed of 150 km per hour speed on Sunday. Currently the super-fast Rajdhani Express takes around 16 hours to cover the same distance.

We are exploring the possibilities of introduction of light weight aluminium coaches in our railway system, Railway Board Member (Rolling Stock) Hemant Kumar told PTI.

Asked whether Talgo train will be considered for the Railways' future high speed projects, Kumar said "We are looking at similar light weight type trains for speedy run on the existing network."

The light weight Spanish Talgo train hauled by Indian Railways locomotive covered the distance between Delhi and Mumbai in 11 hours 42 minutes in its final trial on Sunday. The Spanish-made coaches with Indian Railways locomotive had left New Delhi at 2.45pm on September 10 and reached Mumbai at 2.33am next day early morning on September 11 covering the 1,384 km stretch travelling at about maximum speed of 150kmph.

Kumar said it was a successful trial by the Talgo train comprising light weight aluminium coaches with tilting technology.

Asked about the way forward for acquiring such type of coaches, he said "we are examining every aspects. Whether to go for single tender or opting for open tendering process to acquire such train, we have to take a call on it."
However, he said "Talgo train design has to be changed as it cannot run in its existing form. While the width has to be increased from the existing size, the footboard height has also to be increased to match our platform height."
Talgo trial was conducted here without any cost to railways as the Spanish company did bear the entire cost of shipment of coaches from Spain to here.


Talgo aims to reduce travel time between Delhi-Mumbai by four hours. Currently, the super-fast Rajdhani Express train takes around 16 hours to cover the distance between New Delhi and Mumbai.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Railways-considering-introduction-of-Talgo-type-trains-between-metros/articleshow/54296360.cms

Arzan bhai at it again! :-)
 
@anant_s @Ankit Kumar 002 @Nilgiri @proud_indian @nair @Levina @ranjeet @Robinhood Pandey @hellfire @jbgt90 @others

This has been a wonderful thread so far.
May i request you for one more thread if you folks have adequate data and details.

Pls check @AndrewJin thread on roads and bridges. I would love to see a detailed new highway projects and bridge building details. Whether its National, State, Border Roads etc and new bridges as well. Classic Airport pictures with details of inside how it looks and what facilities it has ...Of course development too

We have a thread https://defence.pk/threads/indias-i...exes-temples-schools-only-photographs.386982/ but thats just pics. I am trying to have same like this Railway thread in Roads, Highways and Infra segment.

Why i am saying this is bcz Gadkari ji seems to be doing solid work and many road infra companies are suddenly seeing long pending orders being forced to complete adequately and stagnant cashflow seems to be rotating again.

Before opening first have a informal discussion if you folks can really take it up bcz seeing Andrew threads, you know how high he sets the bar. It wont be easy replicating such detailed information and i have to say China and their folks in Internet have showcased their infra boom big time.

If suppose it can be done, then do open it and we can request for a sticky and move that pic thread to Photos and Multimedia Section or add a new sticky if that thread is still needed.

Do let me know if i can contribute anything i will surely do. Basically i am trying to get some more ideas how to make Central and South Asia segment have some more dedicated threads and one of the topic in my mind is this.

Another idea in my mind is a dedicated thread on Indian Tourism - a thread where places, what to see , how to get there, approx cost etc are there.. Sources from reputed travel sites, magazines, blogs etc and personal experiences as well. Hotel reviews can be there as well. Basically this thread will connect to Railways and Road, highway infra thread, so in short i am trying to complete a whole industry segment part by part.

I am open to more ideas. I hope you folks can give some solid inputs on this. But whatever be the thread i will require some folks to take onus and responsibilities and see to it that it will remain updated. It can be based on your choice...

Tagging you @WAJsal as well. Need your input also whats do or donts for such ideas.
 

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