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[Arabian Legend]

Yemen needs lots of time to get back on its feet in many sphere of life. As for now there are two major issues;economy and security. For the Yemen to prosper those two needs to be taking care of. Minor issues are easy to be dealt with.

fresh news few hours ago !



Yemen's main oil pipeline attacked, pumping halted

(Reuters) - Attackers blew up Yemen's main oil export pipeline on Friday, halting the flow of crude, an official working for the state-run Safer oil company said, the latest in a series of attacks.

Yemen's oil and gas pipelines have been repeatedly sabotaged by insurgents and tribesmen, especially since anti-government protests created a power vacuum in 2011, causing fuel shortages and slashing export earnings for the impoverished country.

Yemen's stability is a priority for the United States and its Gulf Arab allies because of its strategic position next to top oil exporter Saudi Arabia and shipping lanes, and because is home to one of al Qaeda's most active wings.

"Subversive elements" had blown up the pipeline linking the al-Hawi Wadi Abida production field in the central Marib province to the Red Sea on Friday morning, the Safer official told Reuters, declining to be identified.

The blast had halted crude flows to the Ras Isa terminal but pumping would resume once the pipeline had been repaired, he added.

"The pipeline burst into flames immediately after the explosion," a witness said.

The last in a spate of attacks on the pipeline was in January, when production was halted for one day. In December, Yemen said oil was being pumped through the pipeline at a rate of around 70,000 barrels per day (bpd).

The pipeline used to carry around 110,000 bpd of Marib light crude to Ras Isa.

A long closure of the line last year forced Yemen's largest refinery at Aden to shut, leaving the small producer dependent on fuel donations from Saudi Arabia and imports.

 

[al-Hasani]

Yes, the biggest problem right now is the lack of centralization and to be frankly I don't think that it will ever work perfectly in Yemen given the independent nature of the people and the strong tribal affinities - even to this day and regional affinity. But time will change that as well. All I fear is that the unique Arabic culture will be replaced by Dubai/Abu Dhabi lookalikes. We already have them in UAE. I want Yemen to stay as close to what it is right now in terms of tradition. I consider Yemeni architecture to be among the most beautiful in the world. It would be a shame to loss that just in the name of so-called modernity.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Is there a competition of stupidity here? A little application of brain will tell you guys I said nothing against yemen but I was pointing to how yemen being poor is treated by her neighbors.

Its easy to give free praise, but in many countries yemenis are treated like non-arabs and that means looked down upon. I've heard this from yemenis themselves.

Yemeni food from Hadramawt region is incredible. Nobody can cook better lamb.

See the remark I made about learning more.

Arabic history is in Yemen,
No one is a real arab if his blood line does not come from Yemen area. No one in their right mind will call Yemenis non arab.
Just look at recent history, look at the tribes around the prophet .. they were of Yemeni origins.

Why is Yemen not in GCC .. Look harder you will see the reason why it is so; it has very little to do with economy.

anyway, you are an Indian. It is futile to talk to u.

 

[al-Hasani]

I can somehow not thank your post Salam108 but beautiful post. But Arabs originate not only in Yemen but also Saudi Arabia and many other regions. Basically the whole Arabian Peninsula. In the Levant (Jordan, Iraq and Syria) one of the earliest Arab cultures also existed. We have a very complicated/wide history. Also there is the Adnani and Qahtani tribes which I am sure you know about. Also the tribes Prophet Muhammad (saws) was around and himself belonged to were local Hejazi one (I am half Hejazi and half Yemeni myself) and also Yemeni. Basically like today were all Arab people belong to either group of tribes.

But yes it is true that Yemen has a ancient culture and thus why it always was a place that was adored by ancient chroniclers - locals and outsiders alike for it richness. Not that I blame them But so was Hejaz, Southern KSA, the Levant and Iraq.

I don't understand why Indians should be angry towards Yemenis and Saudis. Many, especially the first ones and Omanis included had great contacts with Pakistan/India etc. and traded with them mutually with respect. We never spread Islam with violence. Just look at how Islam was spread in Indonesia by Yemenis, Saudis and Omanis (or should I rather say the current day inhabitants ancestors).

Yemeni cuisine is also influenced by it's Indian trade and vice versa. We got tea and who got coffee, LOL. I personally like Indians and like their food which is similar to Yemeni and Arabic food in general. Indians would be surprised by the influence we had on them. I have not heard about ARabs behaving badly in India but if they have I apologize! Peace.

 

[al-Hasani]

See the remark I made about learning more.

Arabic history is in Yemen,
No one is a real arab if his blood line does not come from Yemen area. No one in their right mind will call Yemenis non arab.
Just look at recent history, look at the tribes around the prophet .. they were of Yemeni origins.

Why is Yemen not in GCC .. Look harder you will see the reason why it is so; it has very little to do with economy.

anyway, you are an Indian. It is futile to talk to u.

My I also add why Yemen is not part of GCC. It is because it is not a Gulf Country. Simple as that. It could be part of it and there have been talk about it but it never materialized.

Let me give you a example. In Saudi Arabia people do not speak the same Arabic everywhere. I hate when people call Saudi Arabia (the biggest Middle Eastern country and the 12th biggest in the world) as a Gulf country while only the Eastern Province of KSA can be called a Gulf region. Most of the population live in Hejaz and Najd which are not Gulf regions. Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Northern Oman and Kuwait are fully Gulf countries. Not KSA. We are talking about a very diverse regions with some cultural/linguistic differences although all in all people are more or less the same in a wider perspective.

Anyway Yemenis, Saudis and all Arabs on the Arabian Peninsula love each other. We are the same sons from the same feather. The small regional differences should not put us apart. As a half Saudi and Yemeni I am able to see it from both sides and if I did not know anything about new borders, dirty politics (sorry politics never appealed to me) I would think both people were the same just with some regional differences.

Also what saddens me most is how ineffective our Arab League is. We are truly working against each other sometimes. Harming ourselves in the process. I guess this is the fault of modern states in the 21 century. But what matters most for me is the relationship between ordinary Arabs and I can proudly say that we get along really well most of us. Same people.

Also what I said about India obviously also apply for Pakistan and even more so in Indonesia.

 

[Sinnerman108]

@al-Hasani

I can somehow not thank your post Salam108 but beautiful post. But Arabs originate not only in Yemen but also Saudi Arabia and many other regions.

Actually I could not complete my post. There are things I remember discussing with the local Yemeni people and reading; but I don't exactly remember. Thus I decided not to quote them at all.

I am still reading the history of Hejaz and the followig politics.
Hopefully one day I will talk with authority.

Hasani

Open another thread, and we will ask Mosamania to make it a sticky in that section.

Lets discuss the Yemen history. Not the Qahtani and Adni history,
Let go back to "Bilqis" and even before that.

Translate:
Of all the new false gods, the biggest is the motherland (watan),
The garment (Kafan) of this idea is actually the death-shroud of religion,

 

[al-Hasani]

You are free to make such a post and I would gladly contribute. I am still learning myself since I am only 18 years old and for the first time in my life I got a chance to study outside of Arabia this very semester (since summer basically) so I am reading new sources as well. Also I know all the 4 tribes I belong to from both sides of the family and even the 8 and 16 tribes generations back. My father's family are sadah and from Makkah (where I was born) while my mother's family (Yemeni) have ties to Tarim an Sana'a and what I have observed is that there is great affinity between Yemen and Hejaz. Obviously the regions are different but we know that both regions have been neighbors and closely tied since very ancient times. Before Islam, after and recently where many Yemenis have immigrated to Hejaz and before vice versa. Anyway this is not surprising giving that these are Arab areas on the Arabian Peninsula next to each other basically.

But sure if we go back in time we also know that the first humans outside of Africa settled in Yemen and expanded from there if we are to believe science. Hence this could explain why Yemen have always been a "mysterious" place in a better of words or what you say in English and a well sought after region. Looking at the climate changes (once much of Hejaz and Yemen had subtropical climates and were covered in rainforest and today only some areas have this climate in the mountains).

 

[Arabian Legend]

Yes, the biggest problem right now is the lack of centralization and to be frankly I don't think that it will ever work perfectly in Yemen given the independent nature of the people and the strong tribal affinities - even to this day and regional affinity. But time will change that as well. All I fear is that the unique Arabic culture will be replaced by Dubai/Abu Dhabi lookalikes. We already have them in UAE. I want Yemen to stay as close to what it is right now in terms of tradition. I consider Yemeni architecture to be among the most beautiful in the world. It would be a shame to loss that just in the name of so-called modernity.

You must be confused mixing modernization with westernization. I just don't see any problem in modernization while preserving your culture identity and tradition. Dubai is exceptional as it was intentionally formed to be a global spot in term of economy; trade and investment and also tourism. walk around Dubai hardly you see a citizen, they mostly live in Abu Dhabi and other surrounding areas.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

They should also involve in business contracts of african countries

 

[al-Hasani]

You must be confused mixing modernization with westernization. I just don't see any problem in modernization while preserving your culture identity and tradition. Dubai is exceptional as it was intentionally formed to be a global spot in term of economy; trade and investment and also tourism. walk around Dubai hardly you see a citizen, they mostly live in Abu Dhabi and other surrounding areas.

I think we misunderstand each other. Let me explain what I mean by this. Today, most of Yemen look like 1000 years ago in terms of architecture and beauty. Just google Sana'a or visit it and you will be bought back in time immediately. Every non-Yemeni I have spoken to and who have visited Yemen love Yemen (among other things) exactly for that reason because it is one of the few places on this earth that differ in a good way. Of course there is modern technology in Yemen and also new buildings but not many. My example is maybe also too extreme but what I am trying to say is that I prefer to keep the traditional architecture that makes Yemen unique rather than neglect it like it sometimes happens in KSA, especially in Hejaz (look at Yanbu and Jeddah - a crime against our heritage in my opinion) or turn out to be a Dubai or Abu Dhabi which will never happen in Yemen anyway I think.

This is of course only my opinion but I know most Yemenis agree since they do it that way still and do not rapidly change in that field.

Of course this does not mean that everything is perfect and that changes should not be allowed. If I could change something right now I would ban qat for example.

 

[al-Hasani]

They should also involve in business contracts of african countries

Actually there is warm relations with many East African countries and the Horn of Africa due to historical reasons. Yemeni sailors and merchants were involved in trades with those areas and spread Islam along with the Omanis (who are basically Yemeni immigrants). So relations are warm. We also have a few hundred thousand Muslim immigrants from Somalia and other Horn of Africa countries.

There is still a ongoing plan of building a bridge between Yemen and Djibouti. Whether this will happen I do not know. Maybe in the future but currently neither region is stable enough for such a costly project. Also the Red Sea is a major hub of trade (Jeddah has one of the biggest ports in the world and the Suez Channel of course) and I do not know whether such a bridge would have a impact on the trade which also would impact Yemen obviously.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Actually, Many prominent Jordanian tribes descend from Yemen, I get to say, Yemenis are the most polite and the bravest among Arabs. BTW, my father was an educational supervisor at Al-Sheher and Al-Mukallah I think in 1987...

certain regional countries want Yemen to neither fall under grasp of AQAP OR (I emphasize OR) be fully free from insurgent groups fighting against the state

They shall remain un-named.

Yemen is an interesting country in which a lot of the problems are more regional-centric. We have similar issues.

The country has produced bright minds - of people of all faiths. We all pray for the success and prosperity of our brothers/sisters of Yemen.

 

[al-Hasani]

Thank you for the kind words but if you think that Arab nation work agains the interest of Yemen then you are wrong. The only outside country who are hostile towards us is Iran who are supporting the Zaydi rebels in the North who are a minority but thankfully they have realized that they were part of a game constructed by non-Arabs who did not care about them but only regional proxy-wars so they stopped and Yemen is slowly moving ahead despite many obstacles but the Arabic nature of Yemen will always remain strong and we consider fellow Saudis, Omanis to be our closest brothers in the region and also Emiratis whom many are Yemenis originally. The UAE football team who won the Gulf Cup - basically half of them were of Yemeni origin. Secondly the relations extend to the remaining Arab countries - especially the Sunni majority countries.

Saudi Arabia are not supporting AQAP nor any other organization. The Yemeni regime of Saleh and the current one have always had close ties to KSA. Why do you think Saleh was treated in KSA of all countries?

Sometimes you should read up a bit more before speaking.

 

[al-Hasani]

Talking about dear Yemen:

Al Noor City Djibouti and Yemen - YouTube

 

[Kaniska]

if that is the parameter then Omanis should look else where

Fortunately..Oman does not have danger of so much illegal immigrant who are skilled in crossing the border at any cost people like BD so that they will worry about...