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Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy

Pakistanis along with Indians suffered because of Arabic and Turkic invasion. Most sufferings have occurred in present day Pakistan.

Leave about the radicals and other anti India people, But Historically we have similar back grounds.



The taking of different paths is not the problem....but how can someone take pride in the things they intend to destroy....
Isn't it utmost hypocrisy.....
 
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this is the rough outlining of the ancient south asian civilisations, I mean the most ancient upto 800 years before the Muryan Empire that combined the southern regions: the land includes most of Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and ideally it should be called the ancient south asian history because the subcontinent has not been united into a singular entity for most of its history and has had nations not traditionally associated with south asia as parts of empires (afghanistan, Burma etc.,)
 
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We do share same history and civilization and there is no denial in that.



this is the rough outlining of the ancient south asian civilisations, I mean the most ancient upto 800 years before the Muryan Empire that combined the southern regions: the land includes most of Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and ideally it should be called the ancient south asian history because the subcontinent has not been united into a singular entity for most of its history and has had nations not traditionally associated with south asia as parts of empires (afghanistan, Burma etc.,)
 
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How can Muslims like you shamelessly take pride in ancient Indian history when Muslims destroy ancient Indian heritage in the name of religion.....

Destruction of ancient Buddha statues by Islamic extremists(Taliban) in Bamyan Afghanistan......
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Very simply, sir, because I am not a Taliban nor am I an extremist and there is not a single community that is innocent of not attacking the other for example the tombs of Mughal kings (my direct ancestors) was robbed and desecrated by Punjabi Hindus however, that does not make me disown my part of history. They are as much part of my history as they are of yours. My family traces its ancestry to Babar directly but I have Rajput blood in me as well. All of us are such a mix of genes that when we start hating our history invariably we are hating ourselves.

And I do not hate any part of me, I realise that History is a process that has affected our present BUT is independent of it. I criticise Pakistanis who hate Ranjit Singh and Indians who hate Babur. You are hating your self. Today you have Dehli, I have Islamabad but there is a part of me from Jalandar, Amritsar, Dehli, Tehran and even Mongolia! Yes, I do not own it today as I own Lahore, from where I am, and I would be at most an honoured guest at these cities not a part of it like you yet you cannot deny my ties to it and neither can I deny your part. The present division should be respected but not stretched where it does not exist.
 
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The taking of different paths is not the problem......we believe in, 'there are as many ways to reach god as there are beliefs'....
But how can someone take pride in the things they intend to destroy....Isn't it pure hypocrisy??
India is a country of migrants. Migration is taking place in India for more than 4000 years. From Aryan to Greek, from Arabs(both pre & post Islamic) to Turks(both pre & post Islamic), from central Asian people to West Asian people, from Europeans to Chinese came to India. It was the modern day Pakistanis who suffered the most as a result of all these. By the way, do not forget that the Aryan invasion was the most brutal of them from which Hinduism started.( Vedas etc.)
 
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We do share same history and civilization and there is no denial in that.

Just like most of Europe shares its history to Charles the Great it did not stop the nations from going into their own trajectories but you cannot reach anywhere when you deny your history.

India is a country of migrants. Migration is taking place in India for more than 4000 years. From Aryan to Greek, from Arabs(both pre & post Islamic) to Turks(both pre & post Islamic), from central Asian people to West Asian people, from Europeans to Chinese came to India. It was the modern day Pakistanis who suffered the most as a result of all these. By the way, do not forget that the Aryan invasion was the most brutal of them from which Hinduism started.( Vedas etc.)

Recent theories do not support the Aryan 'invasion' scenario; the decent of the Indus civilisation was probably more due to losing of the waterways for irrigation and the inability of their egalitarian society to adopt to that which resulted in them disbanding rather than dying out.

http://www.langtoninfo.com/web_content/9780521572194_frontmatter.pdf

http://drs.nio.org/drs/bitstream/2264/1793/2/Curr_Sci_77_180.pdf

http://books.google.com.pk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=wNlsRZh3rwgC&oi=fnd&pg=PR11&dq=ancient+indus+civilisation&ots=VKyghMeA24&sig=uF5q5cDQNZdYshX6ikBZHRrcdN8#v=onepage&q=ancient%20indus%20civilisation&f=false
 
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Pakistanis along with Indians suffered because of Arabic and Turkic invasion. Most sufferings have occurred in present day Pakistan.

Leave about the radicals and other anti India people, But Historically we have similar back grounds.

What are you talking about....
The Arabic, Turkic, Persian, Mughal invasions did not happen in recent times....and I'm not even talking about the damages they incurred on the existing Indian culture then....

I'm talking about the 'PURE-ISLAMIC',intolerant mindset that exists even today....and the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan in 2001(just 12 years ago) is an example of how they are keeping their destructive,intolerant tradition of their ancestors alive.....
 
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Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy


I am opening this thread to remind people about the contribution done by the Great Indian civilization.Some of the works and advancements are done during Buddhist and Jain Rulers.

Quotes about India

Will Durant, American historian: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all".
Mark Twain, American author: "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

Albert Einstein, American scientist: "We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."

Max Mueller, German scholar: If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.
Romain Rolland, French scholar : "If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."

Henry David Thoreau, American Thinker & Author: Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated me. In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climbs, and nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge. When I read it, I feel that I am under the spangled heavens of a summer night.

R.W. Emerson, American Author: In the great books of India, an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence, which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the questions that exercise us.

Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

Keith Bellows, National Geographic Society : "There are some parts of the world that, once visited, get into your heart and won't go. For me, India is such a place. When I first visited, I was stunned by the richness of the land, by its lush beauty and exotic architecture, by its ability to overload the senses with the pure, concentrated intensity of its colors, smells, tastes, and sounds... I had been seeing the world in black & white and, when brought face-to-face with India, experienced everything re-rendered in brilliant technicolor."

A Rough Guide to India: "It is impossible not to be astonished by India. Nowhere on Earth does humanity present itself in such a dizzying, creative burst of cultures and religions, races and tongues. Enriched by successive waves of migration and marauders from distant lands, every one of them left an indelible imprint which was absorbed into the Indian way of life. Every aspect of the country presents itself on a massive, exaggerated scale, worthy in comparison only to the superlative mountains that overshadow it. It is this variety which provides a breathtaking ensemble for experiences that is uniquely Indian. Perhaps the only thing more difficult than to be indifferent to India would be to describe or understand India completely. There are perhaps very few nations in the world with the enormous variety that India has to offer. Modern day India represents the largest democracy in the world with a seamless picture of unity in diversity unparalleled anywhere else."

Mark Twain: "So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds. Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked."

Will Durant, American Historian: "India will teach us the tolerance and gentleness of mature mind, understanding spirit and a unifying, pacifying love for all human beings."

William James, American Author: "From the Vedas we learn a practical art of surgery, medicine, music, house building under which mechanized art is included. They are encyclopedia of every aspect of life, culture, religion, science, ethics, law, cosmology and meteorology."

Max Muller, German Scholar: "There is no book in the world that is so thrilling, stirring and inspiring as the Upanishads." ('Sacred Books of the East')
Dr Arnold Toynbee, British Historian: "It is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in the self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in history, the only way of salvation for mankind is the Indian way."

Sir William Jones, British Orientalist: "The Sanskrit language, whatever be its antiquity is of wonderful structure, more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either."

P. Johnstone: "Gravitation was known to the Hindus (Indians) before the birth of Newton. The system of blood circulation was discovered by them centuries before Harvey was heard of."

Emmelin Plunret: "They were very advanced Hindu astronomers in 6000 BC. Vedas contain an account of the dimension of Earth, Sun, Moon, Planets and Galaxies." ('Calendars and Constellations')

Sylvia Levi: "She (India) has left indelible imprints on one fourth of the human race in the course of a long succession of centuries. She has the right to reclaim ... her place amongst the great nations summarizing and symbolizing the spirit of humanity. From Persia to the Chinese sea, from the icy regions of Siberia to Islands of Java and Borneo, India has propagated her beliefs, her tales, and her civilization!"

Schopenhauer: "Vedas are the most rewarding and the most elevating book which can be possible in the world." (Works VI p.427)

Mark Twain: "India has two million gods, and worships them all. In religion all other countries are paupers; India is the only millionaire."

Colonel James Todd: "Where can we look for sages like those whose systems of philosophy were prototypes of those of Greece: to whose works Plato, Thales and Pythagorus were disciples? Where do I find astronomers whose knowledge of planetary systems yet excites wonder in Europe as well as the architects and sculptors whose works claim our admiration, and the musicians who could make the mind oscillate from joy to sorrow, from tears to smile with the change of modes and varied intonation?"

Lancelot Hogben: "There has been no more revolutionary contribution than the one which the Hindus (Indians) made when they invented ZERO." ('Mathematics for the Millions')

Wheeler Wilcox: "India - The land of Vedas, the remarkable works contain not only religious ideas for a perfect life, but also facts which science has proved true. Electricity, radium, electronics, airship, all were known to the seers who founded the Vedas."
W. Heisenberg, German Physicist: "After the conversations about Indian philosophy, some of the ideas of Quantum Physics that had seemed so crazy suddenly made much more sense."

Sir W. Hunter, British Surgeon: "The surgery of the ancient Indian physicians was bold and skilful. A special branch of surgery was dedicated to rhinoplasty or operations for improving deformed ears, noses and forming new ones, which European surgeons have now borrowed."

Sir John Woodroffe: "An examination of Indian Vedic doctrines shows that it is in tune with the most advanced scientific and philosophical thought of the West."
B.G. Rele: "Our present knowledge of the nervous system fits in so accurately with the internal description of the human body given in the Vedas (5000 years ago). Then the question arises whether the Vedas are really religious books or books on anatomy of the nervous system and medicine." ('The Vedic Gods')

Adolf Seilachar & P.K. Bose, scientists: "One Billion-Year-Old fossil prove life began in India: AFP Washington reports in Science Magazine that German Scientist Adolf Seilachar and Indian Scientist P.K. Bose have unearthed fossil in Churhat a town in Madhya Pradesh, India which is 1.1 billion years old and has rolled back the evolutionary clock by more than 500 million years."
Will Durant, American Historian: "It is true that even across the Himalayan barrier India has sent to the west, such gifts as grammar and logic, philosophy and fables, hypnotism and chess, and above all numerals and the decimal system."


LOL, most of the quotes are fake. They are all over the internet. Why didn't you include 36% of NASA Scientist are Indian? :omghaha:

Will Durant, American historian: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages....."

India was mother land of European race? Sanskrit the mother of European language? LOL. Sanskrit came from Old Slavic. :omghaha:
 
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Yes that mind set do exist but In my view we should not show the same kind of intolerance.
What are you talking about....
The Arabic, Turkic, Persian, Mughal invasions did not happen in recent times....and I'm not even talking about the damages they incurred on the existing Indian culture then....

I'm talking about the 'PURE-ISLAMIC',intolerant mindset that exists even today....and the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan in 2001(just 12 years ago) is an example of how they are keeping their destructive,intolerant tradition of their ancestors alive.....
 
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India is a country of migrants. Migration is taking place in India for more than 4000 years. From Aryan to Greek, from Arabs(both pre & post Islamic) to Turks(both pre & post Islamic), from central Asian people to West Asian people, from Europeans to Chinese came to India. It was the modern day Pakistanis who suffered the most as a result of all these. By the way, do not forget that the Aryan invasion was the most brutal of them from which Hinduism started.( Vedas etc.)

You're a fool, the 'Aryan Invasion' theory is a myth.....fabricated by the Europeans who think Asians cannot be intelligent enough to establish such a huge civilizations on their own and that foreigners(Aryans) were the real 'heroes'....LOL
 
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All you need is a good education with some common sense and honesty!

All you need is some patriotism of your own flag and some manners about posting in the forum.

Some people leave their own flags and wear other country flags. Just like "a Fox is scaring itself to make it look like a tiger".
 
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LOL a Chinese talking about Indian history....

China is a fake country....there was never a country called China...we Indians discovered the landmass and gave it a name...CHIN....from there the name CHINA is derived....
 
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India is a country of migrants. Migration is taking place in India for more than 4000 years. From Aryan to Greek, from Arabs(both pre & post Islamic) to Turks(both pre & post Islamic), from central Asian people to West Asian people, from Europeans to Chinese came to India. It was the modern day Pakistanis who suffered the most as a result of all these. By the way, do not forget that the Aryan invasion was the most brutal of them from which Hinduism started.( Vedas etc.)

Aryan Invasion is a myth fabricated to legitimize European rule in India.

ASI ancient south Indian gene came to India almost 60000 years ago and ANI came to India 40000 years ago. They mixed with each other for centuries in India.
 
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