Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy

[oFFbEAT]

......Which is Indian civilization that Indians talk about.

The Indus Valley Civilization.....

 

[Nassr]

The Indus Valley Civilization.....

Surprise surprise - the core of IVC is in Pakistan and not India. Why don't the Indians look for their own identity instead of stealing some one elses identity and calling it their own.

 

[oFFbEAT]

Surprise surprise - the core of IVC is in Pakistan and not India. Why don't the Indians look for their own identity instead of stealing some one elses identity and calling it their own.

Only because IVC is in modern day Pakistan, it does not mean that modern Pakistanis have any link with it.......
Modern Pakistanis claim Arabic, Turkic, Persians ancestry but the IVC people were none of them....they were pure Indians from the Indian subcontinent....

 

[Maira La]

Only because IVC is in modern day Pakistan, it does not mean that modern Pakistanis have any link with it.......
Modern Pakistanis claim Arabic, Turkic, Persians ancestry but the IVC people were none of them....they were pure Indians from the Indian subcontinent....

How would you know Pakistanis are not their descendants? ;p

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Only because IVC is in modern day Pakistan, it does not mean that modern Pakistanis have any link with it.......
Modern Pakistanis claim Arabic, Turkic, Persians ancestry but the IVC people were none of them....they were pure Indians from the Indian subcontinent....

i already posted picture of pure indians

"only the Andamanese possess Ancestral South Indian lineage without admixture of any Ancestral North Indian genetic heritage."

Andamanese people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

these people still live in jungles, they can be responsable for urban civilization like IVC?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

i already posted picture of pure indians

"only the Andamanese possess Ancestral South Indian lineage without admixture of any Ancestral North Indian genetic heritage."

Andamanese people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

these people still live in jungles, they can be responsable for urban civilization like IVC?

Why do you refuse to reply to my posts here in response to yours? Allow me to clarify my initial posts in response to yours ...


ANIs =Ancestral North Indians.

ASIs = Ancestral South Indians.

Yes, speculation is that the ASIs possibly emigrated from the Andaman Islands. Then again, the later thought is that they were the first inhabitants of South India, being an expedition group of the original NIs (North Indians) who evolved from the initial NIs to resemble a darker skinned ASIs. Genetically this is 100% supported since archaeological findings seem to suggest a common DNA for the sub continent. I am yet to study that level of genetic methodology which you propose and can only hope that you will enlighten me with reference to the written works which you rely on.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

i already posted picture of pure indians

"only the Andamanese possess Ancestral South Indian lineage without admixture of any Ancestral North Indian genetic heritage."

Andamanese people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

these people still live in jungles, they can be responsable for urban civilization like IVC?

Why do you refuse to reply to my posts here in response to yours? Allow me to clarify my initial posts in response to yours ...


ANIs =Ancestral North Indians.

ASIs = Ancestral South Indians.

Yes, speculation is that the ASIs possibly emigrated from the Andaman Islands. Then again, the later thought is that they were the first inhabitants of South India, being an expedition group of the original NIs (North Indians) who evolved from the initial NIs to resemble a darker skinned ASIs. Genetically this is 100% supported since archaeological findings seem to suggest a common DNA for the sub continent. I am yet to study that level of genetic methodology which you propose and can only hope that you will enlighten me with reference to the written works which you rely on.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Why do you refuse to reply to my posts here in response to yours? Allow me to clarify my initial posts in response to yours ...


ANIs =Ancestral North Indians.

ASIs = Ancestral South Indians.

Yes, speculation is that the ASIs possibly emigrated from the Andaman Islands. Then again, the later thought is that they were the first inhabitants of South India, being an expedition group of the original NIs (North Indians) who evolved from the initial NIs to resemble a darker skinned ASIs. Genetically this is 100% supported since archaeological findings seem to suggest a common DNA for the sub continent. I am yet to study that level of genetic methodology which you propose and can only hope that you will enlighten me with reference to the written works which you rely on.

How can ANI genes be similar to europeans, central asians? I just dont understand this, europeans and central asians should also have sizeable ASI component dont you think?

 

[oFFbEAT]

Its a fact pakistaní muslims were converted by sufís.....

Sufism is a more moderate form of Islam.....but after getting converted by them you suddenly became intolerant and started killing each other.....you history lesson is getting more and more 'interesting'.....

...otherwise do you really think muslim couldnt have killed every hindu who didnt accept in 1000 years?...

Do different Madrassas in Pakistan teach different versions of history??
The Madrassa from which you were educated seem to have taught you that the transition from Hinduism/Buddhism to Islam was peaceful....but when other pakistanis like Zaid Hamid declares that "we will repeat the history of 'hindu Kush' if the Hindus set foot in Afghanisthan...", it seems that his Madrassa taught him the right thing as it corroborates with what we are taught in India...

...And its historical fact caste system f up india and even now you see it every day. Aryans just enslaved people from forests, yes they made them civilized but slaves also. You want to see your self if not for ANI people?



the only pure ASI people left because they were far away in islands.

One one hand you look down upon the ASIs and on the other hand you want to take credit of IVC....this is the hypocrisy we're talking about so long....
The ANI people are related to Central Asians, Middle Easterners and Europeans i.e Aryans who invaded IVC....i.e the IVC locals were definitely not ANIs....
Since you believe in the 'Aryan Invasion' theory and look down upon the ASIs therefore you cannot take credit of IVC....

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Sufism is a more moderate form of Islam.....but after getting converted by them you suddenly became intolerant and started killing each other.....you history lesson is getting more and more 'interesting'.....


Do different Madrassas in Pakistan teach different versions of history??
The Madrassa from which you were educated seem to have taught you that the transition from Hinduism/Buddhism to Islam was peaceful....but when other pakistanis like Hafiz Saeed declares that "we will repeat the history of 'hindu Kush' if the Hindus set foot in Afghanisthan...", it seems that his Madrassa taught him the right thing as it corroborates with what we are taught in India...



One one hand you look down upon the ASIs and on the other hand you want to take credit of IVC....this is the hypocrisy we're talking about so long....
The ANI people are related to Central Asians, Middle Easterners and Europeans i.e Aryans who invaded IVC....i.e the IVC locals were definitely not ANIs....
Since you believe in the 'Aryan Invasion' theory and look down upon the ASIs therefore you cannot take credit of IVC....

ASI mean Ancestral South Indian, they were not IVC people lol. Aryan migration theory cant be disproven simply by saying that. There is political reason for indians to say this, for unity. If one have to invent lies to stay united then that tells you everything about India.

 

[oFFbEAT]

How would you know Pakistanis are not their descendants? ;p

It doesn't matter whether modern Pakistanis are actually descendants of the IVC people or not....they renounced their ancestry and religion....and accepted the so called 'Aryans' who invaded the people of IVC to be superior than the locals.....therefore it would be utmost hypocritical to take credit of an entire civilization created by the people who they think are 'inferior'....

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

It doesn't matter whether modern Pakistanis are actually descendants of the IVC people or not....they renounced their ancestry and religion....and accepted the so called 'Aryans' who invaded the people of IVC to be superior than the locals.....therefore it would be utmost hypocritical to take credit of an entire civilization created by the people who they think are 'inferior'....

renounced their ancestry lollolol

If thats how it worked then every Indian now would have looked like Europeans. Imagine how much money poor people can save for not buying fair and lovely.

 

[oFFbEAT]

ASI mean Ancestral South Indian, they were not IVC people lol. Aryan migration theory cant be disproven simply by saying that. There is political reason for indians to say this, for unity. If one have to invent lies to stay united then that tells you everything about India.

If the IVC people were not ASIs and not Aryans, then who were those guys....

 

[oFFbEAT]

renounced their ancestry lollolol

If thats how it worked then every Indian now would have looked like Europeans. Imagine how much money poor people can save for not buying fair and lovely.

Looks like, you don't know the meaning of 'renouncing'.....keep a dictionary handy....

 

[DarkPrince]

indians r the biggest western copycats nowadays thats a fact.

best thing they can do is copying others.

well nothing wrong about that anyway