Indian Cenima's Effects On Pakistan

[OKtoBerFeSt]

Why're you dudes so against nakedness!! Nakedness is good!! It make everyone happy!

 

[Spring Onion]

Why're you dudes so against nakedness!! Nakedness is good!! It make everyone happy!

Oaye purana chunda

we are not against nakedness in your country we are just discussing that nakeness is not part of Indian culture too.

Rather i must say nakedness was never been part of Western culture too.
It was just during recent decades that you guys have forced women to go naked otherwise there was always a decent dress.
Am i right ?

 

[OKtoBerFeSt]

Oaye purana chunda

we are not against nakedness in your country we are just discussing that nakeness is not part of Indian culture too.

Rather i must say nakedness was never been part of Western culture too.
It was just during recent decades that you guys have forced women to go naked otherwise there was always a decent dress.
Am i right ?

From what I know about India, their architecture depicts a lot of nakedness, indicating that perhaps sometime in the past, people didn't usually wear that many clothes at all.

 

[Spring Onion]

From what I know about India, their architecture depicts a lot of nakedness, indicating that perhaps sometime in the past, people didn't usually wear that many clothes at all.

well yes as far as i had read and seen most of Hindu scriptures show Hindu Gods that way. but i think its not sometimes back. Its thousands of years back.
I am not Indian nor Hindu so i think i can not explain it well or in other words i dont have that much knowledg as they might have. So they can better explain it.

But i guess in these scriptures women gods are not shown as naked.

But anyway i still believe that nakeness of women is not looked at as something good in Indian culture also so the Indian movies and dramas are in realy realy bad taste in this regard.

 

[sajan]

ஒரு கண்றாவியும் புரியல...

nice reply mate.....!!

 

[Energon]

I think you did not understand what i said.

Let me translate or berief you on what i said.

extive wanted to know how will indian movies affect our culture to which i said

"Indian movies are even not depicting their own culture. as in my humble opinion i do not believe that an average Indian will like his women to be as naked as today the Indian Movies as well as Indian dramas are showing indian women in such a dress which does not depict even Indian culture.

(i feel disgusting to see the what crap and the way they are portraying an indian woman semi nacked in even in Dramas, though films are always even in my country were the tool to present actresses in bad semi naked dresses but Dramas ?? NO way. but its very unfortunat to see today even Indian dramas are in same line).

Indian entertainment either on TV or Movies aren't really made to depict Indian culture... if anything they are escapist fantasies to get away from it. If you really want to see films that portray reality then you have to watch the Independent "art film" productions.

 

[Spring Onion]

Indian entertainment either on TV or Movies aren't really made to depict Indian culture... if anything they are escapist fantasies to get away from it. If you really want to see films that portray reality then you have to watch the Independent "art film" productions.

Energone why you failed to understand what i am saying????
I am saying the same thing look at your media has literaly rip Indian women of their clothes which as you said and as im saying is not Indian culture.

Energon tell me why you guys are not doing somthing about it.

 

[Logic note]

Energone why you failed to understand what i am saying????
I am saying the same thing look at your media has literaly rip Indian women of their clothes which as you said and as im saying is not Indian culture.

Energon tell me why you guys are not doing somthing about it.

Dear Jana , dont you think we all are trying to label the culture and twist it based on what we want, based on our silly perception.

 

[Spring Onion]

Dear Jana , dont you think we all are trying to label the culture and twist it based on what we want, based on our silly perception.

hmmm so by terming our perception of objecting to nudity as silly and you think it is ok if Indian media is showing Indian women almost naked ???
I mean in other words do you think majority of the Indians supports the kind of 'culture' being shown to them??

You tell me what you think the media is right torch-bearer of the culture if we all are trying to label the culture based on our perception.

 

[OKtoBerFeSt]

hmmm so by terming our perception of objecting to nudity as silly and you think it is ok if Indian media is showing Indian women almost naked ???
I mean in other words do you think majority of the Indians supports the kind of 'culture' being shown to them??

You tell me what you think the media is right torch-bearer of the culture if we all are trying to label the culture based on our perception.

Well, your opinion is based on the presumption that nudity is "bad" and "evil" and exposing skin is "cheap" and "exploitative".

 

[Logic note]

hmmm so by terming our perception of objecting to nudity as silly and you think it is ok if Indian media is showing Indian women almost naked ???
I mean in other words do you think majority of the Indians supports the kind of 'culture' being shown to them??

You tell me what you think the media is right torch-bearer of the culture if we all are trying to label the culture based on our perception.

Lol
First - Culture is more about what we ( Middle Class PPl) want , and not what it is .
Second -Nudity or sexuality, is and was always in demand , in every era, in every society .
Thirdly - In todays modern society , Media is just another tool in making money but the good thing is that we have option. we can see what we want to see.
Some see K, serials . Some Watch Porno , Some see Yoga
Some read Right wing Newspaper and Magazine and some independent .

 

[Logic note]

and I know Nudity or sexuality was never seen as evil in Indian Culture , its just that media uses it in its most carnal way . it strips its eroticism and vanity and makes it a cheap stuff sold on streets . But then an uneducated man on the street , appriciates that and who am I to load my middle class over morality on him ?

Kamashastra and khajuraho are good example of vanity in sexuality .

 

[Spring Onion]

Well, your opinion is based on the presumption that nudity is "bad" and "evil" and exposing skin is "cheap" and "exploitative".

Logicy bad and evil are two different things bad can be corrected while evil cant be.

Being a girl i do not feel it fit to show women disgracfully simply beacuse women are not comodity.
secondly forget about the religion or culture, just look it this way everything that exceed limits or everything that disturbes the balance of the society in negative leading to crimes can not be simply termed correct or right.

as far your statement that we have choice to watch whatever we want indeed but look at the level of the choice majority also want to watch entertainment but without the amount of 'vulgarity' tell me what choice they have there are about 99 % channels showing the same thing in one or other from.

So simply if one wants to be nude or semi nude he/she has the right to chose the level of that thing she/he wants but why dont they let those who want to remain their stated levels. Why to impose things lets say if someone wants to wear a mini skirt or even undergarments only and walk freely on road OK if they want but than why to oppose and object to those who want to be covered from head to toe ?? Why not let them wear what they want to.


and Rest Logic if you think Hinduism dosnt not mind women to be nude than i dont have any problem if Indian media is ripping Indian women of their dresses.

And Logic with due appology its a very harsh question but would you do not mind your sister or mother to be portraited this way ????

 

[Logic note]

Logicy bad and evil are two different things bad can be corrected while evil cant be.

Being a girl i do not feel it fit to show women disgracfully simply beacuse women are not comodity.
secondly forget about the religion or culture, just look it this way everything that exceed limits or everything that disturbes the balance of the society in negative leading to crimes can not be simply termed correct or right.

as far your statement that we have choice to watch whatever we want indeed but look at the level of the choice majority also want to watch entertainment but without the amount of 'vulgarity' tell me what choice they have there are about 99 % channels showing the same thing in one or other from.

So simply if one wants to be nude or semi nude he/she has the right to chose the level of that thing she/he wants but why dont they let those who want to remain their stated levels. Why to impose things lets say if someone wants to wear a mini skirt or even undergarments only and walk freely on road OK if they want but than why to oppose and object to those who want to be covered from head to toe ?? Why not let them wear what they want to.


and Rest Logic if you think Hinduism dosnt not mind women to be nude than i dont have any problem if Indian media is ripping Indian women of their dresses.

And Logic with due appology its a very harsh question but would you do not mind your sister or mother to be portraited this way ????

Nice Middle Class Feminish Views .
and Middle Class Feminist Question.
My Mistake .. I thought of talking about Morality , society and Media while you wanted Moral narrow minded points .

 

[OKtoBerFeSt]

Logicy bad and evil are two different things bad can be corrected while evil cant be.

Being a girl i do not feel it fit to show women disgracfully simply beacuse women are not comodity.
secondly forget about the religion or culture, just look it this way everything that exceed limits or everything that disturbes the balance of the society in negative leading to crimes can not be simply termed correct or right.

Crimes happen due to a lot of reasons. Nudity is not one of them.

Infact its the opposite....conservative cultures tend to record to most crimes against women...most in the confines of the household.

Scandanavian countries, Japan, Western Europe, record the lowest crimes against women, and they are anything but conservative.

On the other hand, Iran, India, Pakistan, etc. record huge numbers of crimes against women, even though they are conservative.

But I think that one shouldn't have a "one size fits all" policy. Some things work in certain societies, and some things don't. One cannot impose foreign values on a culture without disastrous consequences.

So simply if one wants to be nude or semi nude he/she has the right to chose the level of that thing she/he wants but why dont they let those who want to remain their stated levels. Why to impose things lets say if someone wants to wear a mini skirt or even undergarments only and walk freely on road OK if they want but than why to oppose and object to those who want to be covered from head to toe ?? Why not let them wear what they want to.

Look Jana its all relative...

In Iran, exposing your wrists and ankles is considered vulgar.

In Afghanistan, exposing anything at all is considered vulgar.

In Japan, exposing only the "nether region" is considered vulgar.

In USA, exposing more that the standard bikini is considered vulgar.'

In France, anything does.

and Rest Logic if you think Hinduism dosnt not mind women to be nude than i dont have any problem if Indian media is ripping Indian women of their dresses.

Lol..."ripping of their dresses"....rather extreme don't you think? The women who choose to "rip" off their dresses do so of their own free will, rest assured.

And Logic with due appology its a very harsh question but would you do not mind your sister or mother to be portraited this way ????

It depends on which culture logic comes from.

Ancient India, being a tropical country, probably didn't mind nudity because, frankly, its too damn humid to wear coveralls.