Indian BSF stopped firing first. So credit goes to them

[danger007]

for a instance,i thought we headed towards 5th war...

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Dont fool yourselves. why pakistani media is not allowed?

You are just doing lyk 1999.

Our army is much larger with better tech and ammo. why we will stop ever thought logically?

Why your army guys crying to UN observers?

No. Actually the army was not even moved to all the forward observation posts. There was some light traffic (that caused traffic jams), but no real deployment. The Indian Army was not doing the counter shelling.

Black market???
Petrol ?? or food items??

Kashmir has a wonderful blackmarket. Your and mine tax money is used to provide a subsidy on everything in Kashmir - and by that I mean everything. Except land. All political parties get stuff from here and sell them in Himachal or Punjab Everybody knows it.

Now with the ration lines getting longer, the black market is providing things to the locals as well, of course at a premium.

I can give you a darker economic side of Kashmir that is truly heartbreaking. But now a party is about to start ...so may be tomorrow.

 

[FaujHistorian]

No. Actually the army was not even moved to all the forward observation posts. There was some light traffic (that caused traffic jams), but no real deployment. The Indian Army was not doing the counter shelling.

No major army movement on this side either.

 

[GORKHALI]

Indian media is hyping it but in reality fingers are being pointed at Modi.

Modi’s chest is 5.6 inches and not 56: Congress on ceasefire violations | The Indian Express

Why you put lid on media to show up ? Its good to show their bravado...Compare to Indian media who are swarming on border to show up on TV, how they fire 81 MM mortar and 7.62MM mmg to next side.

 

[FaujHistorian]

for a instance,i thought we headed towards 5th war...

naaah, bhai naaah.

army to army contacts and intel was clear as a day, that Modi sahib and Jaitely are doing a bit of drama.

 

[thesolar65]

In 1999 a prestigious Pakistani source (a 4-star PA officer) claimed that the Indian Army was not fighting fit. I wonder where these theories come from.

The theory is from 1947. 1 Pakistani = 10 Indians.

 

[Indien]

India has no reason to violate the ceasefire, its pakistan who has to provide covering fire to her terrorist and thats why they target BSF post to keep them engaged.

 

[danger007]

naaah, bhai naaah.

army to army contacts and intel was clear as a day, that Modi sahib and Jaitely are doing a bit of drama.

both sides have enough capabilities to play this drama.. if both sides stick to drama.. no problem. .. but if it was serious then.. it could be. ..

 

[FaujHistorian]

No offence to both sides, but with BSF and Rangers face to face, there never was going to be any escalation.

BSF seriously needs better training (and money). Their discipline and battlefield readyness leaves much to be desired. That is when compared to the Army. Can't say about the Rangers.

Also kinda shows how safe Kashmir actually is now.

Not sure about your comments.

For pakistan Rangers, officers both commissioned and JCOs are from army on deputation (temp loan). Only the very bottom aka foot soldiers are picked directly and trained in rangers' training academy.

I thought the same was true for BSF. But I may be wrong.

 

[FaujHistorian]

India has no reason to violate the ceasefire, its pakistan who has to provide covering fire to her terrorist and thats why they target BSF post to keep them engaged.

What you say was true in 1980s.

Please update to 2014.

 

[SrNair]

No. Actually the army was not even moved to all the forward observation posts. There was some light traffic (that caused traffic jams), but no real deployment. The Indian Army was not doing the counter shelling.


Kashmir has a wonderful blackmarket. Your and mine tax money is used to provide a subsidy on everything in Kashmir - and by that I mean everything. Except land. All political parties get stuff from here and sell them in Himachal or Punjab Everybody knows it.

Now with the ration lines getting longer, the black market is providing things to the locals as well, of course at a premium.

I can give you a darker economic side of Kashmir that is truly heartbreaking. But now a party is about to start ...so may be tomorrow.

Bro,, I can imagine that .Raw rice are a hot blackmarket item even in these Kerala .So we can imagine an entire state running on subsidies.

 

[Indien]

What you say was true in 1980s.

Please update to 2014.

what has happened in14? kindly enlighten me.

 

[deckingraj]

naaah, bhai naaah.
army to army contacts and intel was clear as a day, that Modi sahib and Jaitely are doing a bit of drama.

buddy....drama happens on both sides...and that drama is only for the local audience...the day audience matures drama will stop....Nawaz speech in UN was nothing but a drama to begin with...I mean seriously when will people learn that UN is a non-functioning body and can't do jack about any problems b/w us...

Anyhow i will leave the usual accusations aside...i have a question for pakistani friends here...The usual explanation that some Pakistani guests gives on our channels is that given Pakistan is occupied on her western border it makes little sense for them to escalate border..so in short it is India who escalated and we retaliated...however no-one explained why would India like to escalate border...so can someone please share what's the explanation on Pakistani side about this?

 

[FaujHistorian]

what has happened in14? kindly enlighten me.

A lot in 34 years. Will need separate thread. Please open one. then invite me for virtual cup of chai.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Not sure about your comments.

For pakistan Rangers, officers both commissioned and JCOs are from army on deputation (temp loan). Only the very bottom aka foot soldiers are picked directly and trained in rangers' training academy.

I thought the same was true for BSF. But I may be wrong.

No. It's not much different. There are officers deputed here as well, but the foot soldiers make a huge difference.

Don't make a mistake - BSF is not cowardly or anything. Just tactically not upto the mark and hence suffers unnecessarily high losses.

@JAT BALWAN can help.